Shaun Metcalf back in NRL

[Porthoz]

Playing NRL or any other code at an elite level carries responsabilities and should always be seen as a privilege. A privilege he doesn't deserve.

i dont get this. its not a privilege, its a job. while its not a regular 9-5 job like most of us, its still something where if you have the skills and apply them to your work, you can get ahead in the field. being chosen for representative matches is a privilege. making it to an NRL squad isnt.

Mate, you're the one I don't get, seriously.
If you can't understand how playing sports at an elite level such as the NRL is a privilege, I don't know what to tell you... [icon_shru
Without offence, you strike me as someone that would perfectly fit in an anarchy where the only law that applies, is the law of the jungle.

 

[Je$ter]

Well it's a business, not a church. If he offers value to them from a business stand point then good luck to the Warriors.

Sends a really great message to the community about what the Warriors stand for.

What's their next marketing campaign? "MAKE THE MAN SOME F*CKING EGGS"

SCORE THE TEAM SOME F*CKING TRIES!

 

[Anonymous person]

Mate, you're the one I don't get, seriously.
If you can't understand how playing sports at an elite level such as the NRL is a privilege, I don't know what to tell you... [icon_shru
Without offence, you strike me as someone that would perfectly fit in an anarchy where the only law the applies, is the law of the jungle.

how is it a privilege?

is it something thats only given to people that are rich? no.
is it something thats only given to people who can run the 100m in under 11 seconds? no.
is it something thats only given to attractive people? no.

a privilege is something thats only afforded to certain people. walking the red carpet at a premier is a privilege afforded to the actors/directors/etc of a movie. taking a trip into space on one of richard bransons space craft is a privilege only afforded to the rich and famous.

but working hard to get good at rugby league and then getting a job playing rugby league is not a privilege. once you are an NRL player though, attending the dally Ms is a privilege. being named player of the year is a privilege. being selected to represent your state/country is a privilege. those things are only given to NRL players.

see the difference?

 

[Porthoz]

are you guys the type of people who would not see a movie that you wanted to see because an actor in it said something you disagree with personally? are you the type of people who would not play (for example) Modern Warfare 3 on xbox even if it was the greatest game of all time just because its published by activision?

if so, i feel sorry for you. intentionally missing out on things that youd enjoy just because people who have nothing whatsoever to do with you did something that you dont agree with......glad im not like that.

How do you go from attempted murder of an unborn child to something and actor said that I might disagree with? [icon_ee
To reply to your example: If I knew that Modern Warfare 3 was made in Indonesia mostly through child labor, I wouldn't support it in any way, be it buying, renting or playing it.

 

[Porthoz]

Mate, you're the one I don't get, seriously.
If you can't understand how playing sports at an elite level such as the NRL is a privilege, I don't know what to tell you... [icon_shru
Without offence, you strike me as someone that would perfectly fit in an anarchy where the only law the applies, is the law of the jungle.

how is it a privilege?

is it something thats only given to people that are rich? no.
is it something thats only given to people who can run the 100m in under 11 seconds? no.
is it something thats only given to attractive people? no.

a privilege is something thats only afforded to certain people. walking the red carpet at a premier is a privilege afforded to the actors/directors/etc of a movie. taking a trip into space on one of richard bransons space craft is a privilege only afforded to the rich and famous.

but working hard to get good at rugby league and then getting a job playing rugby league is not a privilege. once you are an NRL player though, attending the dally Ms is a privilege. being named player of the year is a privilege. being selected to represent your state/country is a privilege. those things are only given to NRL players.

see the difference?

How is working hard to get to NRL level different from working hard once in the NRL to get a Dally M medal?
None of the examples you named can be achieved without working very hard and having the talent for it, but it doesn't make it less of a privilege. Which is exactly the point most people will understand:
You've got to work hard and EARN the right to get to a position of privilege. Committing such a crime forfeits that right, no matter how hard you work! See the difference?

 

[Coxy]

Only people with a moral compass get it, Porthoz.

 

[Kimlo]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 ... 173722.htm

What about that guy, do you agree with that Coxy and Porthoz? Or do you think he shouldn't be allowed to earn 2, possibly 4 million a year after what he has done?

I'm not stirring the pot, just a genuine question.

 

[Coxy]

Not even in the same post code of issues. Workplace harassment, a civil action, vs attempted murder of an unborn child. That you'd compare them shows how lacking in understanding your moral code is. Should talk to your parents. They've failed you

 

[The Brizz]

He should be allowed to play simply because he has done his time, what he did is disgusting but he was punished for it by a court (although way too lightly) he should be allowed to pursue any employment he likes. No issue for me that he is signing for a club my issue is with the court that gave him so little time behind bars.

 

[Anonymous person]

Committing such a crime forfeits that right

Says........who exactly?

Basically what you guys are saying is thy anyone who commits assault or anything like that, even when they're only 16 years old, should NEVER be able to get a job other than a factory worker/labourer and earn more than minimum wage.

That's a joke.

 

[dukey]

I agree with AP - to an extent. I don't give a toss what players or actors or any public figures do in their spare time. If Joey Johns or Verity Firth's partner want to use ecstacy, go for it. If Charlie Sheen wants to live with two porn stars and spend his days ranting on the internet, let him. Nobody has the right to decide how somebody else lives their life, except for when their actions are a threat to those around them. The moment Watmough, Metcalf, Lui or Sheen viciously assault their partners is the moment when their personal lives DO begin to matter to me, and that should be the same for anyone watching them.
I don't give a shit if the bloke I work next to spends all his money and free time stoned off his head. That's his choice. But I would not work next to a guy who savagely beats a pregnant teenager to try and induce a miscarriage, and I won't give any of my money to him, his employer, or any of their sponsors.

 

[Nashy]

What this bloke did was absolutely disgusting beyond belief. But unfortunately Gen X are the generation who live to judge others, and live to never forget anything.

He did something completely horrible when he was a young, dumb 16 year old. We've all done stupid things when we were young, and we all got punished for them. He was punished, and he will continue to be punished while there are Gen X's here ready to banish anyone who does something wrong.

From all reports, they seem pretty confident that his one moment of madness is done and gone, and he is "rehabilitated".

As a society, what are we meant to do? Allow people to come out of prison for their crimes, legally rehabilitated, and bludge off the dole until Gen X dies and lets them start fresh, with a new job, and prove to everyone that they can be part of society again?

I read a bit above about the privilege BS. Do you guys honestly sit at your desks when you get to work and think that it's a privilege to be working where you do?

He's a football player. Employed by the Warriors. His job is to produce results on the field, if he's good at it, he's going to keep that job. If he shit, he'll get the can. Just like all of us.

 

[dukey]

I was toying with that line of thought before Nashy. There are a lot of things I did as a 16 year old that I'd hate to be judged by for the rest of my life. But nothing like GBH, assault and attempted murder. And at 16, you can hardly make the argument that he didn't know what he was doing.

 

[Kimlo]

Not even in the same post code of issues. Workplace harassment, a civil action, vs attempted murder of an unborn child. That you'd compare them shows how lacking in understanding your moral code is. Should talk to your parents. They've failed you

Maybe, maybe... But he was 16 at that time, he went to jail served his punishment and has moved forward 7 years later.

Should he never be forgiven or given a second chance?

 

[Nashy]

I was toying with that line of thought before Nashy. There are a lot of things I did as a 16 year old that I'd hate to be judged by for the rest of my life. But nothing like GBH, assault and attempted murder. And at 16, you can hardly make the argument that he didn't know what he was doing.

Yeah, I tried to word that carefully do the other side didn't go off in your direction.

We all made mistakes, and we were punished. Some people made bigger mistakes, and those people got a harsher punishment for it. Just like this guy.

 

[Coxy]

Not even in the same post code of issues. Workplace harassment, a civil action, vs attempted murder of an unborn child. That you'd compare them shows how lacking in understanding your moral code is. Should talk to your parents. They've failed you

Maybe, maybe... But he was 16 at that time, he went to jail served his punishment and has moved forward 7 years later.

Should he never be forgiven or given a second chance?

You. Don't. Fucking. Get it. Playing NRL is something only those privileged with great talent, dedication and hard work get to experience. With it comes the responsibility to uphold the game with character.

That ship for him sailed.

Sure, have a job. Be an accountant. Be a deadshit mechanic. Play footy with your fellow dropkick mates on the weekend. But you should never play elite sport, represent your country, anything.

Live a normal life. Not a privileged one.

Those of you who don't think being an NRL player is a privilege are utterly brainless.

The NRL already has a string of morally questionable incidents. Bird. Toiletgate. Coffs harbor. Matt johns. Inglis. Lafffanchi. carney. Monaghan. Naiqama.

This one stands out as the Most disgusting and violent. NRL MUST make a stand. He. Can't. Play.

And if he does I hope he breaks his neck.

 

[Porthoz]

I was toying with that line of thought before Nashy. There are a lot of things I did as a 16 year old that I'd hate to be judged by for the rest of my life. But nothing like GBH, assault and attempted murder. And at 16, you can hardly make the argument that he didn't know what he was doing.

Yeah, I tried to word that carefully do the other side didn't go off in your direction.

We all made mistakes, and we were punished. Some people made bigger mistakes, and those people got a harsher punishment for it. Just like this guy.

Only people with a moral compass get it, Porthoz.

FMD, some people need to a good read on sociopathy.

 

[Browny]

Not even in the same post code of issues. Workplace harassment, a civil action, vs attempted murder of an unborn child. That you'd compare them shows how lacking in understanding your moral code is. Should talk to your parents. They've failed you

Maybe, maybe... But he was 16 at that time, he went to jail served his punishment and has moved forward 7 years later.

Should he never be forgiven or given a second chance?

He can always go on Conviction Kitchen