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WASSHHH
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So cute, Perth trying to participate but failing miserably.
nathano11
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NSW are certainties to win on paper
Kimlo
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They even have two 9's. Fantastic stuff.
Alec
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Those odds are crazy. Has there ever been a $3 side in Origin before? Even during QLD's dominance?
Foordy
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maybe 1995
BroncsFan
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Haha Victorian paper??
Harry Sack
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What's the cut off for teams to be finalised? Or has that already passed?
Super Freak
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1 hour before kick off.
Sproj
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Well when did Glasby sneak his way back so close to the side?
Qld will be lucky to finish with 13 fit players.
Qld will be lucky to finish with 13 fit players.
Dash
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I'm pretty sure he was the 'official' 18th man when the squad was originally named.
Black Philip
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I'm still wouldn't rule out Milford starting with Munster at fullback.
Horseheadsup
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At least there's a contest this year.
winslow_wong
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Feels like origin is alive again.
Broncos Maestro
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Are you a fricken wizard with your prediction!!!!
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Simply beaten by the better team. You can’t make that many missed tackles and expect to win. Out coached, out selected and simply completed. Queensland looked like broncos team of this year except they muscled well in defence.
Middle defence was killer. Fittler was smart enough to fake that they would burn us with speed on outside so we gave them massive holes in middle which Tedesco strolled past grab ‘tackles’.
Good news is real heart in muscling up and playing through fatigue and NSW had every 60:40 let alone 50:50 decision.
For Queensland.
14. Morgan. 6 tried and was solid in defence (although lately try was a joke 3 guys were there and Turbos looked a double movement only needed a finger on him and Morgan had a hand on thigh from crap channel 9 views). Did well on short notice as but bad selection - needed spark of Munster.
2. Holmes 5. Cost two, earned one. Good metres at times and great kicking. Think he might be a flat track bully but wait and see.
3. Inglis. 7. Lifted for captaincy. Real leadership by example with defence. Doesn’t look great in attack but was serviceable and kept Roberts out of the game. Not sure with his leg get any more than that but for now was enough.
4. Chambers. 1. If it wasn’t for lose inside defence could blame him for the loss. Terrible. Meters but again ball hog. Isn’t this guy a defensive specialist? Doubt I could have defended worse out there after a a bottle of whisky. Bad reads, poor attempted tackles, no sense of the guys around him. If doesn’t deliver he might need his own transition.
5. Gagai. 5. Big meters but wasted outside chambers. Wasn’t last series good but did his job playing injured.
6. Munster. 5. Dangerous and much more than rest of spine but needs a halfback much like rest of the team. A few dodgy tackle attempts.
7. Hunt 2. Why do people think this guy is a halfback? Does it just say it so much everyone gets tired of hearing it and let him have what he wants? Took about 1 minute at hooker to both show up Macca and his own play at 7. And how did Kevvie ever think playing 3 non halfbacks and a crap attacking hooker would create points. We should have added at least 4 tried with opportunities. Defensively caught out but at hooker he doesn’t have to do those reads or wide tackles alone.
8.Napa. 6. Fair meters, a couple of hits. Not bad and helped keep NSW pack controlled but hope he steps up next game.
9. Macca. 4. Usual Macca mediocrity. High defensive work rate which will be lauded as be all
and end all with no view to bigger picture, overrated effect on holding centre and f***ing sh*t service and attack. Serves the halves up on a platter to NSW. Might save a try a game on a poor defensive hooker but costs more in poor start to every play. Used poorly as a defensive workhorse again. I was so excited when hint stepped into hooker and saw someone actually run, kick and pass the ball like an actual professional footballer. More specific score should be attack 1, defence 7.
10. Wallace. 2. Not good enough. 3 runs. Channeled his bronco plodder days.
11. Cooper 3. Similarly not good enough. Need Gillo fit.
12. Kafusi. 7. Killed himself tackling and running. Needs to toughen the middle a little bit what can u expect when doing another forwards work by himself.
13. McGuire 4. Mainly based on his 4th tackle efforts. Big heart especially after injured. Needed to toughen centre more but that will come with match fitness. Go to prop and never pass lock again.
15. Papali. 6. Good meters for runs. Needed more as a senior forward but wasn’t bad.
16. Hess. 5. Give young bloke time. Would prefer he had more time before stepped up to origin but limited alternatives.
17. Arrow. 4. Not great but solid. Another one would prefer a year or two before debuted but injuries and limited depth...
19. Milf. ? Wasted again. But he should be used to that feeling by now playing for Broncs and crying himself to sleep on bed made of $100 notes.
Solutions.
1. Slater/Munster
2. Holmes (prefer Oates but he kicks)
3. Inglis
4. Minster/Chambers
5. Gagai (Oates if not fit)
6. Milf
7. DCE. (Last series or he is done if doesn’t prove he isn’t our Mitchell Pearce or can’t play by team culture)
8. Napa
9. Hunt
10. McGuire
11. Kafusi
12 Gillo only if 100%. If not Kafusi to 12 and Cooper (on very thin ice)
13. Pappali but rather bring Carroll out of retirement than play McGuire.
14. Morgan
15. Wallace
16. Arrow
17. Hess
18. Oates
19. Ponga
Middle defence was killer. Fittler was smart enough to fake that they would burn us with speed on outside so we gave them massive holes in middle which Tedesco strolled past grab ‘tackles’.
Good news is real heart in muscling up and playing through fatigue and NSW had every 60:40 let alone 50:50 decision.
For Queensland.
14. Morgan. 6 tried and was solid in defence (although lately try was a joke 3 guys were there and Turbos looked a double movement only needed a finger on him and Morgan had a hand on thigh from crap channel 9 views). Did well on short notice as but bad selection - needed spark of Munster.
2. Holmes 5. Cost two, earned one. Good metres at times and great kicking. Think he might be a flat track bully but wait and see.
3. Inglis. 7. Lifted for captaincy. Real leadership by example with defence. Doesn’t look great in attack but was serviceable and kept Roberts out of the game. Not sure with his leg get any more than that but for now was enough.
4. Chambers. 1. If it wasn’t for lose inside defence could blame him for the loss. Terrible. Meters but again ball hog. Isn’t this guy a defensive specialist? Doubt I could have defended worse out there after a a bottle of whisky. Bad reads, poor attempted tackles, no sense of the guys around him. If doesn’t deliver he might need his own transition.
5. Gagai. 5. Big meters but wasted outside chambers. Wasn’t last series good but did his job playing injured.
6. Munster. 5. Dangerous and much more than rest of spine but needs a halfback much like rest of the team. A few dodgy tackle attempts.
7. Hunt 2. Why do people think this guy is a halfback? Does it just say it so much everyone gets tired of hearing it and let him have what he wants? Took about 1 minute at hooker to both show up Macca and his own play at 7. And how did Kevvie ever think playing 3 non halfbacks and a crap attacking hooker would create points. We should have added at least 4 tried with opportunities. Defensively caught out but at hooker he doesn’t have to do those reads or wide tackles alone.
8.Napa. 6. Fair meters, a couple of hits. Not bad and helped keep NSW pack controlled but hope he steps up next game.
9. Macca. 4. Usual Macca mediocrity. High defensive work rate which will be lauded as be all
and end all with no view to bigger picture, overrated effect on holding centre and f***ing sh*t service and attack. Serves the halves up on a platter to NSW. Might save a try a game on a poor defensive hooker but costs more in poor start to every play. Used poorly as a defensive workhorse again. I was so excited when hint stepped into hooker and saw someone actually run, kick and pass the ball like an actual professional footballer. More specific score should be attack 1, defence 7.
10. Wallace. 2. Not good enough. 3 runs. Channeled his bronco plodder days.
11. Cooper 3. Similarly not good enough. Need Gillo fit.
12. Kafusi. 7. Killed himself tackling and running. Needs to toughen the middle a little bit what can u expect when doing another forwards work by himself.
13. McGuire 4. Mainly based on his 4th tackle efforts. Big heart especially after injured. Needed to toughen centre more but that will come with match fitness. Go to prop and never pass lock again.
15. Papali. 6. Good meters for runs. Needed more as a senior forward but wasn’t bad.
16. Hess. 5. Give young bloke time. Would prefer he had more time before stepped up to origin but limited alternatives.
17. Arrow. 4. Not great but solid. Another one would prefer a year or two before debuted but injuries and limited depth...
19. Milf. ? Wasted again. But he should be used to that feeling by now playing for Broncs and crying himself to sleep on bed made of $100 notes.
Solutions.
1. Slater/Munster
2. Holmes (prefer Oates but he kicks)
3. Inglis
4. Minster/Chambers
5. Gagai (Oates if not fit)
6. Milf
7. DCE. (Last series or he is done if doesn’t prove he isn’t our Mitchell Pearce or can’t play by team culture)
8. Napa
9. Hunt
10. McGuire
11. Kafusi
12 Gillo only if 100%. If not Kafusi to 12 and Cooper (on very thin ice)
13. Pappali but rather bring Carroll out of retirement than play McGuire.
14. Morgan
15. Wallace
16. Arrow
17. Hess
18. Oates
19. Ponga
Black Philip
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Can I ask, what exactly do you think is going to change from Moose going from lock to prop if you think his ability in the middle of the field is that bad?
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Number6
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It’s about mindset. He isn’t bad in the middle of the field, I think he is very good. But he needs to be told he is a prop and that is it. Can offload that’s fine but he doesn’t have the ability or judgement to be a linkman style of forward or have his hands anywhere near the ball after tackle three without written and certified permission from a real halfback. Traditionally as a lock you might get tempted to offload or ball play or take later plays in the set. Do you need to change his number to achieve this - not necessarily. But either the most resourced club and some of highest rated coaches in game can’t figure it out to tell him or he doesn’t learn. Either way he is a very good workhorse prop but doesn’t add much as a lock so why not fix two problems and get a more dynamic lock option and let McGuire do what he does best.
Super Freak
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The 4th and 5th tackle are the times we need to be throwing the ball around and testing the defence. But with McGuire, he just takes a hit up and it just kills what we've been building towards.
If he offloaded and passed it more, he can stay there. But he doesn't and we need a lock that does offload the ball and passes the ball.
