Storm for Wooden Spoon - Betting Suspended

[Kris]

I feel gutted for the fans. I can't imagine how devastated they would've been when they found out about this. It's such a shame that the Storm is going to lose a lot of their fans because of this drama.

 

[Raw Boned Youngster]

The players must have known... wouldn't they have been getting payments from 2 sources into their bank accounts?
Is this then a case of tax evasion?

This happens in local grassroots leagues as well, by the way, but on a much smaller scale.
The intent is the same though.
Black money... it is against the Aussi way ( in some ways ), but certainly against the law in some cases.

What is the difference, then, between this and a brickie doing his cashies every weekend?
What is the reaction of the average Joe?
The cheaper cash job cheats the honest guy out of a job.

Anyway, back to the Storm...
I believe there was a disclosure from someone within the Storm. Surely Waldron ( the architect ) jumped ship and the new guy inherited the mess.
Would you like to wear the fraud and the fall out?
Is it possible that someone who inherited the mess got cold feet?

Of course all clubs have been guilty in some way and in some degree.
Some have been caught and some will.

I bet there are some nervous types around at the moment.

 

[Je$ter]

im intrigued as to where the $700k over the cap went?! who are their big stars? smith, slater, inglis and cronk. matty johns just cleared up on his show that cronk was on a very low wage. all the other players are just mid level players, maybe blair and lima on a bit more, but their team this year isnt any better than any other team. i guess they just mustve had to pay smith and the likes more to keep them in melbourne.

and to all those that just go "the players knew, they signed 2 contracts".. how **** stupid are u lol. can u imagine the paperwork they would have to sign? there would be contracts, insurance, 3rd party deals, non-disclosure statements, the list goes on. There is nothing to suggest they knew, until actually proven that way

It would have been spread across the whole squad I reckon. Just paying overs to lots of players.

And until it comes out the players knew, they are innocent. Those contracts are massive and I'm sure they wouldn't read what was in them if they belived it was the same doco twice.

 

[Bucking Beads]

f#$% some of you guys are dense.

lets have a look at some salary cap infringements by a certain team we all love, then decide if the punishment Melbourne received is fair or not.

1. Broncos, 2001, $118,314 over the cap. Included an undisclosed payment of $50,000.
2. Broncos, 2002, $115,067 over the cap. Fully disclosed.
3. Broncos, 2003, Undisclosed guarantee to player via 3rd Party Entity
4. Broncos, 2006, Unapproved TPA
5. Broncos, 2007, Unapproved TPA
6. Broncos, 2009, Playing an Unregistered Player. No contract or Registration. Rnd 1 and Rnd 6

all up ~$200 000 in fines were handed out to the Broncos for salary cap breaches. since 2000 there have only been 4 years where the broncos did NOT breach the salary cap!

now correct me if im wrong, but didnt something pretty significant happen with the Broncos in 2006? hmmm what was it......oh thats right, we won the premiership! so if we are all to agree with stripping melbourne of their premierships then surely we would all agree that the broncos should be stripped of their 2006 title, correct?

also, melbourne knocked up out in 2007 with their salary cap breaching team......but we were also breaching the salary cap. we'll call that one even. 2009, same thing - salary cap breaching melbourne knock the salary cap breaching broncos out. we'll call that one even too hey?

if that doesnt show you that the Storm have been treated unfairly, youre biased - plain and simple.

You are pathetic, how can you even begin to compare the minor Salary Cap breaches the Broncos have made to your beloved Storms $1.7 million dollar rort. Look the punishment sucks for the players but the rules were made and it is cheating not to mention Fraud. You really can't be serious $1.7 Million of rorting is way beyond anything any club has been caught of doing.

 

[Je$ter]

What beads said.

If every club who breached the cap got docked all their points it would be a 10 team comp.

Most years at least 2 or 3 clubs have minor breaches.

 

[Kaz]

lol@Bellemy & players he didn't know it was happening.

Hello, where did you think the extra money was coming from.

I am going back to enjoy the rest of my Thailand holiday.

 

[Beachy]

Wonder if this helped with Cameron Smith electing to resign when the Titans were courting him before last season began ...........

 

[Kaz]

What beads said.

If every club who breached the cap got docked all their points it would be a 10 team comp.

Most years at least 2 or 3 clubs have minor breaches.

But others didn't breach it by nearly 2 million.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Wonder if this helped with Cameron Smith electing to resign when the Titans were courting him before last season began ...........

of course it did, I really can't see how the players didn't know. They would have been all been sitting around over a stilnox thinking this is great tax free money wooohooo!

 

[Beachy]

f#$% some of you guys are dense.

lets have a look at some salary cap infringements by a certain team we all love, then decide if the punishment Melbourne received is fair or not.

1. Broncos, 2001, $118,314 over the cap. Included an undisclosed payment of $50,000.
2. Broncos, 2002, $115,067 over the cap. Fully disclosed.
3. Broncos, 2003, Undisclosed guarantee to player via 3rd Party Entity
4. Broncos, 2006, Unapproved TPA
5. Broncos, 2007, Unapproved TPA
6. Broncos, 2009, Playing an Unregistered Player. No contract or Registration. Rnd 1 and Rnd 6

all up ~$200 000 in fines were handed out to the Broncos for salary cap breaches. since 2000 there have only been 4 years where the broncos did NOT breach the salary cap!

Chalk and cheese.

 

[Kimlo]

f#$% some of you guys are dense.

lets have a look at some salary cap infringements by a certain team we all love, then decide if the punishment Melbourne received is fair or not.

1. Broncos, 2001, $118,314 over the cap. Included an undisclosed payment of $50,000.
2. Broncos, 2002, $115,067 over the cap. Fully disclosed.
3. Broncos, 2003, Undisclosed guarantee to player via 3rd Party Entity
4. Broncos, 2006, Unapproved TPA
5. Broncos, 2007, Unapproved TPA
6. Broncos, 2009, Playing an Unregistered Player. No contract or Registration. Rnd 1 and Rnd 6

all up ~$200 000 in fines were handed out to the Broncos for salary cap breaches. since 2000 there have only been 4 years where the broncos did NOT breach the salary cap!

Chalk and cheese.

He is a Melbourne Storm fan so the rose colored glasses are to be expected.
Thank god he can't rave about his beloved team anymore :D

 

[Ari Gold]

Wonder if this helped with Cameron Smith electing to resign when the Titans were courting him before last season began ...........

Given it's the Titans in question, probably not [icon_razz1

 

[Charmamba]

[quote="Anonymous person":20qkf2wb]f#$% some of you guys are dense.

lets have a look at some salary cap infringements by a certain team we all love, then decide if the punishment Melbourne received is fair or not.

1. Broncos, 2001, $118,314 over the cap. Included an undisclosed payment of $50,000.
2. Broncos, 2002, $115,067 over the cap. Fully disclosed.
3. Broncos, 2003, Undisclosed guarantee to player via 3rd Party Entity
4. Broncos, 2006, Unapproved TPA
5. Broncos, 2007, Unapproved TPA
6. Broncos, 2009, Playing an Unregistered Player. No contract or Registration. Rnd 1 and Rnd 6

all up ~$200 000 in fines were handed out to the Broncos for salary cap breaches. since 2000 there have only been 4 years where the broncos did NOT breach the salary cap!

now correct me if im wrong, but didnt something pretty significant happen with the Broncos in 2006? hmmm what was it......oh thats right, we won the premiership! so if we are all to agree with stripping melbourne of their premierships then surely we would all agree that the broncos should be stripped of their 2006 title, correct?

also, melbourne knocked up out in 2007 with their salary cap breaching team......but we were also breaching the salary cap. we'll call that one even. 2009, same thing - salary cap breaching melbourne knock the salary cap breaching broncos out. we'll call that one even too hey?

if that doesnt show you that the Storm have been treated unfairly, youre biased - plain and simple.

You are pathetic, how can you even begin to compare the minor Salary Cap breaches the Broncos have made to your beloved Storms $1.7 million dollar rort. Look the punishment sucks for the players but the rules were made and it is cheating not to mention Fraud. You really can't be serious $1.7 Million of rorting is way beyond anything any club has been caught of doing.[/quote:20qkf2wb]

+1

2009... "Playing an Unregistered Player. No contract or Registration." A bloke that would have been on what 50g?

AP There is what 250g shown there as Brisbane being over.... And your comparing that to 1.7m

Unapproved TPA - nowhere does it say that TPA put them over the cap.

 

[ningnangnong]

AP mate, you've lost it.

I'd lose it too if my team had just embarrassed the game and themselves by cheating.

 

[Beachy]

Wonder if this helped with Cameron Smith electing to resign when the Titans were courting him before last season began ...........

Given it's the Titans in question, probably not [icon_razz1

Pay that :mrgreen:

 

[Bucking Beads]

AP mate, you've lost it.

I'd lose it too if my team had just embarrassed the game and themselves by cheating.

icon_thumbs_u love your work!

 

[Anonymous person]

You are pathetic, how can you even begin to compare the minor Salary Cap breaches the Broncos have made to your beloved Storms $1.7 million dollar rort. Look the punishment sucks for the players but the rules were made and it is cheating not to mention Fraud. You really can't be serious $1.7 Million of rorting is way beyond anything any club has been caught of doing.

$1.1 million of that is from 2009 and 2010 alone. going by that, and the fact that players wouldve had contract upgrades AFTER they won in 2007 and not before, its pretty clear to see that in 2006 when they won the minor premiership and 2007 when they won the premiership they were probably only the same amount over the salary cap as many other teams have been.

but hey, you, jeb, gymp, ningnangnong and rocky were never going to think that they might have been punished unfairly. the fact is the broncos have cheated the salary cap 6 times in the last 9 years, won a premiership in one of the years where they cheated it, yet still have their accomplishments recognised.

oh and if the 'unapproved TPA' payments wouldnt put the team over the salary cap, dont you think they wouldve just gotten them approved? lol. when salary cap breaches occur in 6 out of 10 years, theyre doing it knowingly. its not an accident.

 

[ningnangnong]

Lolololol, don't care.

Melbourne Storm are cheats. They've been punished. Job done.