Q-Cup The tragic tale of Corey Oates

K-Style

NRL Player
Jun 1, 2014
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Is he currently in our "bubble"? I can't see him named in QCup this week and think he only played in the round 1 game.

Amazing he is still only 26 yrs old, seems to have been around a long time - is his body/injuries etc just not up to NRL these days?

Oates played for South Logan Magpies and scored a try there because Souths Logan Magpies haven't had a stroke and left paralised down the left side like the 2020 Broncos (Fifi excepted). He didn't need to go looking for it like he has had to playing for the Broncos. I think his confidence still needs a bit of work and get a few wins under the belt before returning to NRL.

I'm not sure if Walters had identified the breakdown on the left wing but we've already used the left wing a lot more already this season. Last season it was Fifi who was effective with the ball now it's Herbie. Eventually other teams would have realised we don't use the wing and put more bodies in front of Fifi. Fifi was bloody good but he was a ball hog.
 

Fernando

NRL Player
Jun 6, 2015
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Can understand why wingers would want to move to fullback, but I don’t really get the fixation with moving to the backrow.
 

tommy

State of Origin Captain
Jun 5, 2015
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Can understand why wingers would want to move to fullback, but I don’t really get the fixation with moving to the backrow.
Corey is probably just impressed he knows how to spell backrow, so likes saying it.
 

Jedhead

NRL Captain
Jan 8, 2018
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I wish his father-in-law would have a beer and a few stern words with him. He needs to pull his head in and start blitzing it in training and in the ISC. He needs to get that hunger to run the ball back and show Kevvie he's willing to do the hard yards again.
 

Sproj

International Captain
Staff
Sep 6, 2013
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Can understand why wingers would want to move to fullback, but I don’t really get the fixation with moving to the backrow.

Money. Backrowers tend to be paid more than wingers, though I'm not sure anyone has actually explained to Corey that he is already on a very high salary for either position.
 

McHunt

State of Origin Rep
Aug 25, 2018
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Kevin Walters:

“Corey came to me and said he’d like to move back to the wing and I’m not going to stand in any player’s way. They need to play where they feel most comfortable and will play their best football. Corey feels that is on the wing so ‘away you go son, you’re back on the wing’. He’s not well out-of-favour. I’m not a big fan of shuffling players around. We lost a centre (Herbie Farnworth) so we thought the best thing to do was replace him with a centre.”
 

Jedhead

NRL Captain
Jan 8, 2018
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Kevin Walters:

“Corey came to me and said he’d like to move back to the wing and I’m not going to stand in any player’s way. They need to play where they feel most comfortable and will play their best football. Corey feels that is on the wing so ‘away you go son, you’re back on the wing’. He’s not well out-of-favour. I’m not a big fan of shuffling players around. We lost a centre (Herbie Farnworth) so we thought the best thing to do was replace him with a centre.”
But surely Arthurs is the centre? Kennar is an out and out winger!
 

Morkel

International Captain
Staff
Jan 25, 2013
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Kevin Walters:

“Corey came to me and said he’d like to move back to the wing and I’m not going to stand in any player’s way. They need to play where they feel most comfortable and will play their best football. Corey feels that is on the wing so ‘away you go son, you’re back on the wing’. He’s not well out-of-favour. I’m not a big fan of shuffling players around. We lost a centre (Herbie Farnworth) so we thought the best thing to do was replace him with a centre.”

This is good. Corey back at the wing is a good thing if he can get back to where he used to be. We have enough depth to give him a good month or two in Q-Cup to really get his mojo back, I'm hoping he is in Walter's plans TBH. We desperately miss his runs on tackle 1 or 2 that almost always gained us 10-15 metres and a fast play-the-ball.
 

theshed

Just a Game
Aug 28, 2010
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10,997
I don’t think it matters how good Corey plays, he isn’t worth 500k and should not be given any reason to take up his player option next season.

Isaako will be a good enough wing option next season and Corey’s 500k can go toward a decent fullback.
 

Kimlo

International Captain
Staff
Apr 26, 2008
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I don’t think it matters how good Corey plays, he isn’t worth 500k and should not be given any reason to take up his player option next season.

Isaako will be a good enough wing option next season and Corey’s 500k can go toward a decent fullback.
On the other hand who's going to take him if he's not in first grade? In which case why wouldn't be take up his 500k PO if he doesn't have an option somewhere else.

To me it seems like trying to get him back into first form, then telling him he won't have a spot here next year might work best.
 

Sproj

International Captain
Staff
Sep 6, 2013
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I wonder if he might take Teo's spot on the bench given Ben looks like he is done for the season. In theory, Oates if the perfect bench player as a hybrid back/second-rower.
 

Morkel

International Captain
Staff
Jan 25, 2013
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I don’t think it matters how good Corey plays, he isn’t worth 500k and should not be given any reason to take up his player option next season.

Isaako will be a good enough wing option next season and Corey’s 500k can go toward a decent fullback.

Like Kimlo Kimlo said, that's the dilemma.

If Walters is playing him there to get him in to form, he obviously sees him as a future possibility to return. If he does warrant a return to NRL, with the PO for 2022 on decent money, the club might be able to say "hey, we reckon you're worth maybe $350k a season, with next year being $500k, we'll balance it out and give you a 2 year extension after that for $350k 2023 and then $200k 2024. There is value if he comes good.

If Walters is playing him there with no intention of keeping him long-term, you can hope that he gets the shits, sees 2 full years out of NRL as too big a blow to his future usefulness, he may ask for a hard release, or at least a release with us only paying a small amount. If it backfires, he'll just happily play Q-Cup for 2 years and take home the $1 million, it will leave him with little exposure to get a new contract with an NRL team, but a million is a million.
 

Sproj

International Captain
Staff
Sep 6, 2013
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Oates would be a gun at the Storm, he is exactly what they need.
 

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