The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

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I honestly cannot believe there is even suggestions of moving hunt to hooker for any amount of time. I just, I don't get it.
 
broncos4life said:
I honestly cannot believe there is even suggestions of moving hunt to hooker for any amount of time. I just, I don't get it.
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It's really not about shoving Hunt out of the halves, as much as getting someone to give us more spark from dummy half and capable of playing the position well, albeit under the premise that we wouldn't lose much, if anything, from having Taylor and Milford at 5/8, with the added value of introducing young Ash to first grade gradually.

If it works well, we would get an even better spine, if it doesn't... no biggie and back to the drawing board.
 
When Griffin named Thaiday at prop there were calls from him to be strung up ... Now Bennett has named him at prop and people are ok with the decision.

But i have to say I'm not surprised.
 
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Foordy said:
When Griffin named Thaiday at prop there were calls from him to be strung up ... Now Bennett has named him at prop and people are ok with the decision.

But i have to say I'm not surprised.
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You're right, but you can and should be bigger than this mate.

These posts only serve to draw out arguments...
 
Porthoz said:
It's really not about shoving Hunt out of the halves, as much as getting someone to give us more spark from dummy half and capable of playing the position well, albeit under the premise that we wouldn't lose much, if anything, from having Taylor and Milford at 5/8, with the added value of introducing young Ash to first grade gradually.

If it works well, we would get an even better spine, if it doesn't... no biggie and back to the drawing board.
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I assume you are not happy with McCullough in the 9 ? Although I don't think he's a superstar we were poorer when he went off and better when he came back into the game when we played the Warriors. I don't disagree Porthoz with you, we should never stop thinking of ways to improve and being complacent or satisfied with our spine is a worrying sign. I doubt WB thinks of much else ( the team ) and looks to improve at all times. I also agree that losing talented youngsters is not ideal. It's true too that we as supporters are entitled to vent and agitate for change and the coach does not always know best, a wonderful example is Hoffman at 5/8 so I think we are all entitled to an opinion.

I just don't think now is the time to want change, I believe we are better off giving this combo a chance. So far they have given no one a reason to say they have been poor and being young men, growing stronger by the outing seems more likely to yield results than throwing in unproven youngsters and pushing Milford to fullback. I think Boyd will add to the team and see no reason why by seasons end ,that we could'nt be a shot at the title. I say let Boyd do his thing, if it's no good then time to try him on the wing and give Milford the fullback role. Who plays 5/8 then....maybe you have a view on that, I wouldn't know who to give that vital job.
 
Just on Thaiday at prop, one would have to take into account the totally different circumstances. Last year, a fat lazy unmotivated player being selected in the toughest position was just plain dumb. Selecting that same player this year, fighting for survival and credibility is a good move. Griffin did not select well, did not use his bench well and even when wrong persisted with players in the wrong position. WB is not doing that. Not everything he does is perfect( I wanted Hannant to stay ) in my view but he gets more right than wrong.
 
Porthoz said:
You're right, but you can and should be bigger than this mate.

These posts only serve to draw out arguments...
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Sorry mate ... I've been trying to stay out of the whole Boyd vs Milford thing going on today ... But occasionally i let my annoyance get the better of me and make a smart ass comment.
 
Huge said:
I assume you are not happy with McCullough in the 9 ? Although I don't think he's a superstar we were poorer when he went off and better when he came back into the game when we played the Warriors. I don't disagree Porthoz with you, we should never stop thinking of ways to improve and being complacent or satisfied with our spine is a worrying sign. I doubt WB thinks of much else ( the team ) and looks to improve at all times. I also agree that losing talented youngsters is not ideal. It's true too that we as supporters are entitled to vent and agitate for change and the coach does not always know best, a wonderful example is Hoffman at 5/8 so I think we are all entitled to an opinion.

I just don't think now is the time to want change, I believe we are better off giving this combo a chance. So far they have given no one a reason to say they have been poor and being young men, growing stronger by the outing seems more likely to yield results than throwing in unproven youngsters and pushing Milford to fullback. I think Boyd will add to the team and see no reason why by seasons end ,that we could'nt be a shot at the title. I say let Boyd do his thing, if it's no good then time to try him on the wing and give Milford the fullback role. Who plays 5/8 then....maybe you have a view on that, I wouldn't know who to give that vital job.
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I have no problem with that at all, and it is most likely what will end up happening anyway.
The point is moot, because Boyd is here and will play there, and hopefully for the Broncos, I'm wrong and he will kill it at fullback, but I wouldn't be honest with myself if I didn't say what I thought prior to anything happening, much in the same way I did about my confidence in Kahu.

As to whom plays where... I gave a few examples earlier, like Hunt at 5/8 with Taylor at HB, and Milford at the back, but there are a fair few combinations to be thought of, which in the end is a luxury problem for WB.
I honestly find it hard to believe he would move Boyd out, but again, am happy to be proven wrong.

On Macca, I don't think he is as bad as a lot of people say, but he isn't convincing me that he is our future either. I can't see Kodi becoming our main hooker, but would love to see Parcell get a chance to assert himself in the NRL.
 
If Kahu keeps improving at his current rate he may retain the job. I do not believe WB is as stubborn as he is often portrayed and I have faith that he will make good decisions regarding the teams makeup. For me though,moving Hunt away from a position he has finally made his own is extremely unlikely. I could see Milford and Boyd swapping roles but what's more likely is Boyd taking Kahu's place. I also suspect Hodges will miss a fair chunk of the season,perhaps unfairly I suppose but he is somewhat fragile. His next major injury would likely see him retire and maybe Kahu will take his slot should that misfortune befall him.

Ultimately Porthoz we all want what's best for the team and everyone is entitled to have a say, no matter how idiotic it may sound to each of us at times. That does not mean what you have suggested is idiotic! I mean that as a generalisation.
 
Huge said:
If Kahu keeps improving at his current rate he may retain the job. I do not believe WB is as stubborn as he is often portrayed and I have faith that he will make good decisions regarding the teams makeup. For me though,moving Hunt away from a position he has finally made his own is extremely unlikely. I could see Milford and Boyd swapping roles but what's more likely is Boyd taking Kahu's place. I also suspect Hodges will miss a fair chunk of the season,perhaps unfairly I suppose but he is somewhat fragile. His next major injury would likely see him retire and maybe Kahu will take his slot should that misfortune befall him.

Ultimately Porthoz we all want what's best for the team and everyone is entitled to have a say, no matter how idiotic it may sound to each of us at times. That does not mean what you have suggested is idiotic! I mean that as a generalisation.
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Yes, that is the most likely outcome (unfortunately re Hodgo).
And no, I don't expect to see Hunt moved to hooker, especially when there are more urgent matters to fix first, including getting a semblance of a routine in the team without chopping and changing the key pieces around continuously.

And your second paragraph is exactly what I want to see happening.
Argue the merits of the poster's opinion, or stay out of it if it's too idiotic for you. This is not directed at anyone in particular, but we could do with so much less passive-aggressive attitude, sarcasm and downright insulting undertones.

If even you and I can speak in civil way to each other, surely there is hope for the rest of BHQ?
 
Porthoz said:
Yes, that is the most likely outcome (unfortunately re Hodgo).
And no, I don't expect to see Hunt moved to hooker, especially when there are more urgent matters to fix first, including getting a semblance of a routine in the team without chopping and changing the key pieces around continuously.

And your second paragraph is exactly what I want to see happening.
Argue the merits of the poster's opinion, or stay out of it if it's too idiotic for you. This is not directed at anyone in particular, but we could do with so much less passive-aggressive attitude, sarcasm and downright insulting undertones.

If even you and I can speak in civil way to each other, surely there is hope for the rest of BHQ?
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I got no issues with that but on occasion there is an overzealous drive to 'police' posters but I suppose I can live with that. One extra point is that the written word can be perceived in several different ways and quite often it's nuance is lost. What looks like an ordinary sentence to one person looks like a declaration of war to another. I would hope people posting would understand this. There has been a little too much 'reading between the lines' and seeing things that just were never intended.
 
Foordy said:
When Griffin named Thaiday at prop there were calls from him to be strung up ... Now Bennett has named him at prop and people are ok with the decision.

But i have to say I'm not surprised.
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First thing Bennett has done that I haven't agreed with honestly, I would've preferred Wallace, but it makes sense, as Pete said earlier somewhere, gives Thaiday another crack to prove he's not completely cooked whilst still giving us some nice punch off the bench with Jarrod.
 
Last year we had McGuire, Kennedy, and Hannant, who are all capable of playing 60+ minutes (or at least have been in the past). To move Thaiday to prop and have two of those on the bench was a bit silly. What we now know of course is that Hook had little faith in the other bench forwards, which is why he stacked big-minute ones on the bench (so he only had to play the others for 5 - 15 minutes), but at the time it was baffling. Now though, with Hannant & Kennedy moved on, and Blair (probably) out injured, we don't have any big-minute props that are NRL-hardened. Thaiday makes sense, it's not ideal, but it's the best we can make of the situation.
 
http://www.broncos.com.au/news/2015/03/31/ofahengaue_back_to_n.html

JOE Ofahengaue will head back to the Under 20s after a three-week stint in NRL First-Grade.

Under 20s Coach Craig Hodges today named the big young gun Ofahengaue in his front row for Friday's National Youth Competition match against the Gold Coast Titans.


His return from the top grade is timely as a perfect replacement for prop Tim Wolens, who is out of the match with concussion.


In a backline reshuffle, the talented Jayden Nikorima will move from centre to five-eighth.


He replaces Jacob Gagai, who has been assigned to the State League Club the Central Capras.


Jarryd Dodd moves from the wing to the centres, with Jonus Pearson to slot onto the flank.


Coach Craig Hodges said his team was in for a tough assignment after the young Broncos had their unbeaten start to the season smashed by the Warriors in Auckland last Sunday.


"Jayden has played in the halves for us before so he will be fine there," said Hodges.
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Seems like a bit of Wayne Bennett genius to me.. give Joe some more time in the NYC to play big minutes and put up big numbers again, build some confidence, maybe promote him back to the first grade squad later in the year, during origin period.

I also really like moving Gagai to ISC and playing Jayden at Five-Eighth.
 
I understand that offa needs more mins every now and then, but is that not what he would be getting this week with Blair out?
I would of loved to see the kid start tbh, but obviously not going to happen so at least have him play more minutes in prop and share the role with thaiday. I don't understand this change.
 
Taylor1921 said:
I understand that offa needs more mins every now and then, but is that not what he would be getting this week with Blair out?
I would of loved to see the kid start tbh, but obviously not going to happen so at least have him play more minutes in prop and share the role with thaiday. I don't understand this change.
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My thoughts exactly...

I understand the rotation between FG and youth team, but wouldn't this be an ideal week to give more minutes?
 
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