Third Party Agreements

[Jason Simmons]

Thats one issue I have with TPAs that although they are registered with the NRL they are not published.

They could be published and we wouldnt be here talking but google jarryd haynes one if you want an example.

You are the one basing your opinon on these alleged TPA's that give us such an advantage, so surely you must have some specifics on which to base your opinion or do you just roll with the vibe? Perhaps it's mabo?

Come on. Even one specific TPA that gives the Broncs an advantage that no other club could get?

 

[Jason Simmons]

blair has played for nz as has soliola.

But if you honestly believe blair is better then paulo and boyd good on you.

Thaiday was an absolute weapon 5 years ago but right now... I dont know, personally I thought parker was ahead of him last year well ahead and even he thought his time was done.

But continue your wankery and leaps of logic if you need to.

Adam Blair has played 36 tests for NZ at age 31. Soliola has played 12 at age 30, so clearly I'm not the only one who thinks he is...

As for leaps of logic, Soliola has played for NZ too, but that somehow shows Paulo and Boyd are better players than Blair? That's gold...

 

[ZTop]

In the backline it tends to be who you match up on who.

Arguably if you put oates against rapana... we would take every skin.

In the forwards. same thing.

Paulo knocks off blair..

If you match up gillett with papalii, papalii eats him, put whitehead against thaiday, whitehead wins.

On the bench you want one utility which would go to baptiste, maybe ese'ese and pangai get a spot over big dave taylor as he is in and out of the raiders side (which is more then tpj achieved). Other spots go to soliola and tapine.

Thus canberra could win easily, but you have put ur best winger on our weakest. Best second rower against our weakest. You gave croker the skin which I agree with but not on goal kicking, even when croker was shit he always owned roberts.

Blair doesnt even belong there over boyd or paulo and lol at sims being anywhere near anything.

I could go into more detail but I think the strength you have at fullback halves, is not greater then where we are ahead of you guys in the forwards and in the outside backs... and tbh the benches are about even but yours doesnt feel as weak because your starting pack is significately lighter then ours.

As for the 13-12 win, well done, you played tough for the entire 80 u blokes deserved it.

But we did have a few factors against us that we wont always have.
- away
- 5 day turnaround against the broncos usual 7
- broncos are a bit of bogey team for us as they love getting into a grind, and we have major mental weaknesses in our players that sometimes they just do stupid shit when the going gets tough, but I am sure that will improve as they get more experience.
- Look at the quality of the tries scored. The mcclulloch try, was soft garbage from us, that we have let happen in three games straight, one would hope that would be fixed soon enough and we all know that middle spacing can be fixed easy enough, the broncos are especially good at it.
- the boyd try, I turned the game off at this point, it was too painful watching the exact same play / def read mistakes made from last year where we got beaten on this.
- whereas both our werent due to fucking woeful / fixable defence but good attack.

We get our shit together and we win. Your highest cap is only high if boyd/milf have a field day.

Eitherway, I think you have a strong team and will be playing finals footy with us, but I just think if both sides play to there absolute peak we have more.

Gillett is 10 times better than Papalii, Gillett is the best second rower in the game

 

[jd87]

hmm i would not lead to name calling/insults on a opposition forum.

its good your a proud raiders supporter if only a bigger majority of canberra residents supported raiders and turned up to games you would get more exposure which may lead to more players wanting to join your club without you having to pay overs for them.

but dont blame broncos for having the largest supporter base in the nrl ( although i think i heard rabbitohs have more registered members ). wich in-turn leads to more tv live games. and more potential tpa's.

like it or not broncos are a way more professional run club then raiders and a select few others.

only team's i legitimacy feel a little sorry for are a few of the sydney based teams who do actually have issues with so many other teams literally being a few kms away from them.

 

[broncsgoat]

Gillett is 10 times better than Papalii, Gillett is the best second rower in the game

Papalli is a gun. But yeah has nothing on Gillo.

 

[KnToad]

what i wouild say to papabear is. if bennett really did not have any pulling power with players and its all about the money,then why did no players want to come here during the henjak and griffin years. (except milford).

during those times there were heaps of articles of big name players rejecting us because of our coaches.

if money is the only factor like ur saying then why did our secret multi billion dollar endless cash flow we give players under the carpet to play suddenly dry up for those season?

i have no doubt broncos have benefits no other team has that can lure players. i just dont think those benefits are the millions of dollars other fans say we pay under the table

It's been widely reported that Newcastle offered Bird much more but he chose the Broncos. Money was not the ultimate decision maker. Playing for a great club with a legendary coach was the final clincher.

 

[papabear]

You are the one basing your opinon on these alleged TPA's that give us such an advantage, so surely you must have some specifics on which to base your opinion or do you just roll with the vibe? Perhaps it's mabo?

Come on. Even one specific TPA that gives the Broncs an advantage that no other club could get?

Please tell me that the majority of broncos fans accept the common knowledge that TPAs are mostly organised through the clubs and only available whilst the player is at that club.

Again google jarryd haynes TPA and what the guy who organised that would do if he left the GC.

But if you want to go against common rugby league knowledge and suggest that tpa's are available to players the same regardless of club, how about you prove your point with your special sources.

Honestly.

I get that the guy is a broncos fan, and I get that you guys hate the moderating on the gh, but when people are so naive and flat out wrong, why do you join the chorus of wrongness instead of just owning up to the truth. WHEN THE TRUTH BENEFITS YOUR CLUB???

 

[Tera]

- 5 day turnaround against the broncos usual 7

Ugh, this shit again - can we just dispel this right now?

The above is for the 2017 season and shows the average number of days between games for each team. As you can see we have the equal LOWEST number of days between games across the competition, yes even less than the Raiders. If you wanna have a cry about unfair competition have a look at the Bulldogs who surprise surprise have the most - I'm sure Greenberg would hate to see that.

For more have a look here

 

[papabear]

It's been widely reported that Newcastle offered Bird much more but he chose the Broncos. Money was not the ultimate decision maker. Playing for a great club with a legendary coach was the final clincher.

I read that too.

And I to be fair I agree with it, what chance did the knights have if they didnt, the broncs definitely offered less then newcastle cap wise and probably less with tpas combined as well.

Unfortunately newcastle has no tpas nor a culture to help it attract talent at the moment. This is not necessarily good for rugby league.

I think most reasonable people would accept that the order of money went

Newcastle
Broncos
Sharks

Order of where he would like to be

sharks
broncos
newcastle

Then when he weighed it all up, playing positions, money, where he would like to be he chose the broncos.

 

[papabear]

Ugh, this shit again - can we just dispel this right now?

The above is for the 2017 season and shows the average number of days between games for each team. As you can see we have the equal LOWEST number of days between games across the competition, yes even less than the Raiders. If you wanna have a cry about unfair competition have a look at the Bulldogs who surprise surprise have the most - I'm sure Greenberg would hate to see that.

For more have a look here

I havent read to much about this.

But obviously on the broncos v raiders matchup you guys had the advantage there.

With FNF as it is, you may need more then that graph to dispel the rumours.

 

[Cult]

Eitherway, I think you have a strong team and will be playing finals footy with us, but I just think if both sides play to there absolute peak we have more.

Have you noticed that your team only plays to their absolute peak against teams like the Tigers and the Broncos peak is always against the Cowboys?

 

[broncsgoat]

Have you noticed that your team only plays to their absolute peak against teams like the Tigers and the Broncos peak is always against the Cowboys?

We unfortunately seem to lose those games though :(

 

[Tera]

I havent read to much about this.

But obviously on the broncos v raiders matchup you guys had the advantage there.

With FNF as it is, you may need more then that graph to dispel the rumours.

The Rabbits have more than we do.

 

[Socnorb]

That I should have to post TPA's to prove to a homer idiot, "homer" ftr an absolute blind biased mong, who can only see things through one bias perspective, that they are not independent then again you are a special child.

Please tell me that the majority of broncos fans accept the common knowledge that TPAs are mostly organised through the clubs and only available whilst the player is at that club.

Again google jarryd haynes TPA and what the guy who organised that would do if he left the GC.

But if you want to go against common rugby league knowledge and suggest that tpa's are available to players the same regardless of club, how about you prove your point with your special sources.

Honestly.

I get that the guy is a broncos fan, and I get that you guys hate the moderating on thegh, but when people are so naive and flat out wrong, why do you join the chorus of wrongness instead of just owning up to the truth. WHEN THE TRUTH BENEFITS YOUR CLUB???

TPA's are unpublished, yet they are your main gripe against the Broncos. So you gripe about unpublished or unknown information/ speculation. To recap you hate the broncos because they're / have been successful.

 

[pagey]

TBH as a raiders fan, I have not had issues with the mods, but that would go to the point you are making. Only to say that if you posted on there with your opinion I would address your opinion and not send you as I am not a mod.

If it makes you feel any better I am not in the homer crowd at the raiders.

As I have already mentioned, I do not think my team is shit this year, I think we are a decent chance, as good a chance as we have been for ages. But you guys just signed jack bird for more money then cronulla offered him. Of course I am going to comment on same and point out the hypocricy and all blind ignorant homerism of the special children who thought he signed on to the broncos because he wanted to move away from home for less money and a less chance at a premiership.

You guys got him, you paid for him. Same as what we did with a lot of our players and all clubs do with all players.

Teams success nowadays relies on (amongst a whole host of other things):-
1 Individuals ability to play well and consistently - see tigers.
2 Coaches ability to coach to teams strengths and not just copy cat.
3 Team list - ability to sign talent
4 Ability to spot good fits, good value players who dont fit in current system.

The broncos and other clubs have a big legal advantage under point 3. But try to pretend its point 4 / or some mythical bennet factor. The broncos have never needed to worry about getting value, why would they shop at aldi when they are rupert murdoch of the rugby league world.

I am not saying it is illegal or cheating it is not. But dont try and bullshit me or yourselves its pathetic.

No one can honestly say how much we signed him for , or know how much cronulla offered him . And to say that a player doesn't choose team A over team B because of anything other than $$$ is bullshit , coach , success and lifestyle are also contributing factors . And if u believe it is only money than 3/4 of your team is there for that reason , which will end in disappointment because they will be on their bikes as soon as a better offer comes. You maybe an exciting team but there is alot more needed to win premierships .

 

[Morkel]

You pretty much just nailed the Raiders' shortcomings. Believing that players like Boyd or Paulo are better than Blair, because they are big and strong and make lots of metres.

Great to have in your team, no doubt, but only half of the game is attack. No point making metres and scoring points if you allow the opposition to make more metres and score more points. Blair is worth those two players combined because he prevents metres being made against us, prevents fast play the balls, pressures kickers and generally tidies up.

The Raiders have excellent attack but just shithouse defence, the only way they can prevent points against them is to hold on to the ball. So it becomes a lottery - the attack relies on risky plays, and if they stick, you win, if they don't, you lose. And with so many dumb-shit airheads, and the fact that they're so easily ruffled, it's no surprise that even down on confidence and form we've been able to account for you these last two years.

But thanks for the laugh. Losing Milford still grinds doesn't it. Keep telling yourself it was the money (despite the Raiders offering a million dollars) if it makes you sleep better at night.

 

[Aldo]

Props to you Papabear for coming in to another club's fan forum and poking the hornet's nest. Thanks for sharing your views. That post about rating both side's players had tremendous entertainment value as was your definition of a "homer". Both posts had a lot of relevance to one another.

 

[Wolfie]

No money isnt the only factor.

Bennett does have pulling power, as does other coaches and even JT and Cam Smith would.

But when it comes to the money, you guys are way out ahead.

Maybe other clubs should aspire to be like us in all honesty. I dont buy into all this " one town team " bullshit in terms of giving us an advantage. To a point, it probably helps with crowds, but we have money because we are the best run rugby league club in the business. People want to be involved with the Brisbane Broncos.

Actually, the other NRL clubs should than their lucky stars really that we arent actually being run as well as we could be. If we got our junior recruitment better, then the likes of Cam Smith, JT, Papalli, Cronk and many others wouldnt have slipped through our net. And the way we legally manage to keep players, we would be getting to the stage where we are almost unstoppable.