Wayne Bennett confirmed as 2015 coach of Brisbane Broncos

[broncos4life]

why wouldnt he get it? he walked in to the dragons team with bennett, he walked in to the knights team with bennett, he walked out of his knights contract with bennett, and bennett is now coming to Brisbane, where his family live.

i dare say that history is on my side on this one.

When he went to the dragons it was because the broncos didn't want him and Bennett saw him as usual as a fullback.

When he went to the knights he was one of the top fullbacks in the game and Bennett needed him.

He is no longer one of the top fullbacks in the game, and seeing half our team
Are fullbacks Bennett doesn't need him.

 

[Morkel]

Funny u ask, coz my employment situation right now is very similar. I am owed upwards of 1/4 of my yearly wage by my employer. So I actually can relate. Can u? Guess I'd better chuck a darius then and act uninterested, unmotivated and might not even try anymore.

That's up to you. But it depends on your job - can you do an effective job running at, say 80% motivation?

Boyd is not a talent player. He can't put in half efforts and rely on his genes to make him look top shelf. He's always had to be meticulous, focused and committed. The same as all elite players, of course, but for him to slip just 2-3% would have a massive bearing on his form.

 

[rnabokov]

That's up to you. But it depends on your job - can you do an effective job running at, say 80% motivation?

Boyd is not a talent player. He can't put in half efforts and rely on his genes to make him look top shelf. He's always had to be meticulous, focused and committed. The same as all elite players, of course, but for him to slip just 2-3% would have a massive bearing on his form.

Well, doesn't that apply to the entire Broncos side? Actually, any NRL player? My view is that all NRL players are elite, but paraphrasing Orwell, some are more elite than others.

The point is, like Mullen e.g. we don't need him.

Funny though, earlier, we had a team of back rowers, and now we have a team of full backs. What an interesting side we have.

 

[Anonymous person]

When he went to the dragons it was because the broncos didn't want him and Bennett saw him as usual as a fullback.

When he went to the knights he was one of the top fullbacks in the game and Bennett needed him.

He is no longer one of the top fullbacks in the game, and seeing half our team
Are fullbacks Bennett doesn't need him.

like i said, history is on my side and until they prove otherwise I'm going to assume he'll follow bennett for a 3rd time.

 

[Rabbir]

It's kinda like people saying Hodges wouldn't play against the Panthers. He has a track record of not backing up from Origin yet they didn't actually know.

Apparently Beau Scott is also coming. :rolleyes:

 

[Porthoz]

You must have missed the 2008 broncos it was hardly one up footy

No I didn't. You must be confusing solid footy with an ad-lib Lockyer spicing things up and entertaining footy.
Don't get me wrong though, I loved 2008, and were it not for the game that shall not be spoken about, I reckon it would have been way better than 2006 (although those final games were certainly awesome to watch).
The funny thing is that WB did exactly the same thing as Griffin... using Hodges talent to spruce up the lack of footy imagination we had.
[MENTION=7802]broncos4life[/MENTION], it kind of has an expiring date when it has last been seen more than 10 years ago.

Regardless, WB has a big upside to Griffin, his teams are way more efficient in general, and he uses the talent and the bench better.

What I won't accept is people using the boring footy excuse to justify WB's choice, much less the way it happened.

 

[Coxy]

I have misgivings about Bennett's return, and I think you'd be foolish not to. Let's not forget:
1. He left for a reason. It wasn't just that he and Bruno hated eachother, Bennett himself was becoming stale. All the criticisms we've had of Griffin (poor selections, poor recruitment, persevering with underperforming players because of loyalty, poor game plan) applied to Bennett.

2. There's no doubt he left both the Dragons and Knights in a worse position than when he arrived. He rolls in, sets up Wayne's World, and then rolls out leaving nothing behind. My hope is that the suggestion Bennett will retire from coaching in 2017 and become the director of coaching at the Broncos may alleviate that concern - he'll establish a structure and want to oversee it, rather than just up and leave.

3. He's demanding of the club. It's his way or the highway. And when you have that attitude you do step on people. Will he create more friction? Will we be better off for it? His attitude already shows in the way he "negotiated" his return. He's already got his way behind the back of the CEO. Will he get along with and work with Paul White?

4. He's 64. He's not going to bring anything "new" to the table unless he's prepared to trust in young assistants like Walters. He's capable of doing that, but will he?

5. His relationship with the media. Let's face it, it's crap. I know why he does that, but again will that cause problems for a club that's already under more media scrutiny than any other in the NRL?

Sacking Griffin was the right call. But I'm uneasy about the return of Bennett. I'm hopeful and will support him, but I do have my doubts.

 

[rhino]

Our nines team could be exciting next year

Nikorima
Milford
Barba
Copley
Oates
Gillett
McGuire
Vidot
McCullough

Looks the goods doesn't it.

 

[Unbreakable]

My personal hope is that he hires Kevin Walters as an assistant coach, then after Wayne steps into a coaching director role in 2018, Kev becomes head coach.

 

[Coxy]

My personal hope is that he hires Kevin Walters as an assistant coach, then after Wayne steps into a coaching director role in 2018, Kev becomes head coach.

That is the plan is my understanding.

 

[GCBRONCO]

No I didn't. You must be confusing solid footy with an ad-lib Lockyer spicing things up and entertaining footy.
Don't get me wrong though, I loved 2008, and were it not for the game that shall not be spoken about, I reckon it would have been way better than 2006 (although those final games were certainly awesome to watch).
The funny thing is that WB did exactly the same thing as Griffin... using Hodges talent to spruce up the lack of footy imagination we had.
@broncos4life, it kind of has an expiring date when it has last been seen more than 10 years ago.

Regardless, WB has a big upside to Griffin, his teams are way more efficient in general, and he uses the talent and the bench better.

What I won't accept is people using the boring footy excuse to justify WB's choice, much less the way it happened.

Actually I see a solid football side In 2008 that is capable of playing the upbeat free flowing football when required and that is exciting to watch and a well balanced and coached side. Playing exciting football is great and i certainly don't want to see it missing from how we play the game but you also got to be prepared for the grind something by far has been our weakest point this season we have shown a lack of mental toughness too often this season and lost too many games because of it. The Broncos were never taken seriously as contenders even with all the flair and exciting football they offered until they were up for the real acid test that came in a grind test game in 1992 the sort of game that exciting freeflowing side was too often caught out in.

 

[Renegade]

God damn dogs woke me up so decided to sit back and watch through some old Bennett interviews. Always pretty refreshing to hear what he's got to say and when he actually feels like speaking, he makes a lot of sense. None the less, that's for another thread because I came across something far more interesting...



This is the 2006 Qld Cup Grand Final, pitting a Griffin coached Dolphins side against the old Broncos feeder Toowoomba.

Didn't really know where else to post it but some interesting viewing.

Particularly the Dolphins team. Considering they were missing their star halfback who was busy winning NRL premiership, they did pretty well to beat a talented Toowoomba side, although it's pretty interesting to spot the similarities between the Dolphins and Broncos. Particularly the emphasis on the dummy half, the running halfback and Emmett who I forgot played a very similar style to Reed.

Also interesting to see what depth the Broncos were working with. A few of those players on show would later line up and play fairly big roles in the Broncos 2007 season.

Did you guys notice the sideline celebrations and who Hook's embracing? For some it won't be exactly news, but it caught me off guard, especially given where both were at today.

Oh and for the lols, skip to around the 7th minute mark and watch Dave being Dave.

Speaking of...

http://youtu.be/jP7Xp3X-LNk?t=3m2s

Hoffy?!

I was at that game, Toowoomba were terrible. Eastwood in particular had a shocker and I remember thinking to myself, boy oh boy you were playing so well for the Broncos a month or so prior, and now look at you.

 

[broncos4life]

No I didn't. You must be confusing solid footy with an ad-lib Lockyer spicing things up and entertaining footy.
Don't get me wrong though, I loved 2008, and were it not for the game that shall not be spoken about, I reckon it would have been way better than 2006 (although those final games were certainly awesome to watch).
The funny thing is that WB did exactly the same thing as Griffin... using Hodges talent to spruce up the lack of footy imagination we had.
@broncos4life, it kind of has an expiring date when it has last been seen more than 10 years ago.

Regardless, WB has a big upside to Griffin, his teams are way more efficient in general, and he uses the talent and the bench better.

What I won't accept is people using the boring footy excuse to justify WB's choice, much less the way it happened.

Who's using the 'boring footy'as an excuse. I want results, and I dont care how they come. No one goes to hand you the trophy on grand final and says ''hang on, your style is deemed boring so no trophy for you''

As for the way it's happened its all speculation from a journo that was already wrong on several points. In any case how would you have liked it done? ''How griff we are thinking about sacking you, do you want to stay?'' oh k then we will tell bennett to EAD

 

[Bull Shark]

My personal hope is that he hires Kevin Walters as an assistant coach, then after Wayne steps into a coaching director role in 2018, Kev becomes head coach.

I don't think there's any guarantees for Walters though .. He's been overlooked for a number of vacancies in recent times and clearly hasn't convinced anyone who matters that he's ready for a top job yet.

I know just from listening to him talk about the game in his various media roles doesn't fill me with any confidence about his ability to be a head coach - not that that is part of the criteria but to me he just doesn't sound like a freak of nature vis a vis Rugby League X's and O's and as man manager - which lets face it, you need to be to cut it as a successful coach in the NRL.

If a more qualified and credentialled coach is available come 2017 it wouldn't surprise at all if they succeeded Bennett rather than Walters assuming the role. Afterall, the club has shown its hand via yesterday's move that only great coaches need apply at this club from now on.

 

[Porthoz]

Who's using the 'boring footy'as an excuse. I want results, and I dont care how they come. No one goes to hand you the trophy on grand final and says ''hang on, your style is deemed boring so no trophy for you''

As for the way it's happened its all speculation from a journo that was already wrong on several points. In any case how would you have liked it done? ''How griff we are thinking about sacking you, do you want to stay?'' oh k then we will tell bennett to EAD

Yeah mate, I know that when it suits, the journos make up shit. I also know how the corporate world works.

Feel free to keep believing in fairies and stuff.

 

[Foordy]

people were complaining about Griffins post game press conferences ... go help us when Bennett starts his one word answers followed by a few grunts

 

[rnabokov]

people were complaining about Griffins post game press conferences ... go help us when Bennett starts his one word answers followed by a few grunts

I think the players will have the same problems at training, although translated, his coaching will basically be: "just give it to Milford"

 

[rnabokov]

BTW, wasn't it Bennett who coined that famous phrase: "The effort was there." ?