Wayne Bennett confirmed as 2015 coach of Brisbane Broncos

[broncos4life]

Yeah mate, I know that when it suits, the journos make up shit. I also know how the corporate world works.

Feel free to keep believing in fairies and stuff.

oh FFS I'm not believing in fairies, I just don't think it was this big bad lets get griffin and its so sad because he's such a nice guy. If griffin didnt see this coming then that is baffling but is his problem.

As he said its a results industry and its a big bad world out there. He didn't achieve the results needed, especially considering the squad he had at his disposal so he's gotta go.

How did you want them to fire him?

 

[broncos4life]

I think the players will have the same problems at training, although translated, his coaching will basically be: "just give it to Milford"

Unless the players start dabbling in the media I doubt there will be a problem, he's not disabled, he just doesnt like talking to the media

 

[Foordy]

oh FFS I'm not believing in fairies, I just don't think it was this big bad lets get griffin and its so sad because he's such a nice guy. If griffin didnt see this coming then that is baffling but is his problem.

As he said its a results industry and its a big bad world out there. He didn't achieve the results needed, especially considering the squad he had at his disposal so he's gotta go.

How did you want them to fire him?

people keep saying that with regards to sacking Griffin ... and it is 100% true, Griffin had to go ...

BUT

that same phrase get's thrown out the window when it comes to re-hiring Bennett. who actually has a worse record/winning percentage, than Griffin (since Griffin became head coach at the Broncos)

so, on one hand it is a results orientated industry when it come to sacking a coach, but not when hiring your next coach

 

[Morkel]

Well, doesn't that apply to the entire Broncos side? Actually, any NRL player? My view is that all NRL players are elite, but paraphrasing Orwell, some are more elite than others.

The point is, like Mullen e.g. we don't need him.

Funny though, earlier, we had a team of back rowers, and now we have a team of full backs. What an interesting side we have.

It would apply more to some than others. Compare him to say Dugan, Ferguson etc. Those players can still do things other players only dream of, while on the booze, taunting their coaches, not giving a shit. Sure they'd be better, consistently, if they were level headed, but a player like Boyd needs to be 110%, the top of his game, because he doesn't have that raw talent.

I'm not saying that I want him here, I'm merely pointing this out because it was suggested that Bennett is a bad coach because Boyd played badly for half a season. I'm saying there were other factors that contributed.

 

[Bull Shark]

people keep saying that with regards to sacking Griffin ... and it is 100% true, Griffin had to go ...

BUT

that same phrase get's thrown out the window when it comes to re-hiring Bennett. who actually has a worse record/winning percentage, than Griffin (since Griffin became head coach at the Broncos)

so, on one hand it is a results orientated industry when it come to sacking a coach, but not when hiring your next coach

So a couple of sub par seasons completely cancells out three decades of unparralled success ?

seriously, this "since 2011" comparison is the fucking absurd.

 

[Kaz]

BTW, wasn't it Bennett who coined that famous phrase: "The effort was there." ?

Don't know.

But he coined the famous line: Show me the money.

 

[Kaz]

So a couple of sub par seasons completely cancells out three decades of unparralled success ?

seriously, this "since 2011" comparison is the fucking absurd.

People forget the sub par seasons before we finally won in 1992.

 

[broncos4life]

people keep saying that with regards to sacking Griffin ... and it is 100% true, Griffin had to go ...

BUT

that same phrase get's thrown out the window when it comes to re-hiring Bennett. who actually has a worse record/winning percentage, than Griffin (since Griffin became head coach at the Broncos)

so, on one hand it is a results orientated industry when it come to sacking a coach, but not when hiring your next coach

Yep, and newcastles roster was as good as ours wasn't it? Sorry, my mistake

 

[Bull Shark]

People forget the sub par seasons before we finally won in 1992.

the broncos won 57 and lost 30 through their first four seasons ... during that time they twice narrowly missed the top five and made a prelim final. Not so bad for a new team to the NSWRL.

I think any new sporting club would be rapt to win a premiership within its first five years.

 

[Splinter]

the broncos won 57 and lost 30 through their first four seasons ... during that time they twice narrowly missed the top five and made a prelim final. Not so bad for a new team to the NSWRL.

I think any new sporting club would be rapt to win a premiership within its first five years.

Agreed
Ask Cronulla

 

[Foordy]

Yep, and newcastles roster was as good as ours wasn't it? Sorry, my mistake

oh ok... so its not entirely a results orientated business ... got ya.

for the record whose job was it to get a good roster at the Knights? Bennett had 3 years to get a competent roster and he failed to do so

 

[broncos4life]

Don't know.

But he coined the famous line: Show me the money.

Well from all accounts st merge were offering him more, but don't let facts get in the way of an agenda

 

[Anonymous person]

So a couple of sub par seasons completely cancells out three decades of unparralled success ?

seriously, this "since 2011" comparison is the ****ing absurd.

i wouldnt say "three decades of unparralled success". 2001 -> 2008 was pretty poor apart from the end of 2006. 2012->2014 has been terrible too.

 

[broncos4life]

oh ok... so its not entirely a results orientated business ... got ya.

for the record whose job was it to get a good roster at the Knights? Bennett had 3 years to get a competent roster and he failed to do so

Are you serious? He had a few bad years with a very average roster which was then affected pretty dramatically by the ownership crisis, not getting paid and the tragedy of the alex mckinnon incident... He has the track record to prove he is a quality coach with the success that Griffin could only dream of.

But your obviously right, dark days ahead.

 

[Huge]

Some of our posters on here sure carry grudges ! What's worse is the way they swoop on some journos dribble because it suits their agenda.

Try considering that WB took an offer made to him. Whatever he was paid is what the market was offering, it's not something WB can be blamed for. WB has done nothing underhanded truthfully replying to media questions. Although I consider it his business what he was offered and the timing of those offers he told the world he hadn't made up his mind but wouldn't be taking a job from an employer until a position was declared vacant.

How the **** do we know what happened behind the scenes ? Murdoch, after talking with the board decided to tell WB the position at the Broncos was his if he chose in 2015 . That was the most likely scenario I believe. He also was probably asked to come back with his decision before the weekend was over. He didn't do anything wrong by ringing Murdoch to say he'd accept the position, same as anyone else would have done.

As for leaving clubs in a bad position, tell me the names of all the coaches who have left a club differently. What is interesting to note is that two of the three clubs he left in supposedly bad states desperately wanted him back and the other didn't want him to ever leave !!!

So much for that stupid argument !

Griffin was a novice and a failure as was Henjak before him. The Broncos decided they would not repeat that mistake. They, not WB decided they wanted WB back and made him a great offer and as usual for the great man, he acted with dignity and honour. Those of you who find fault with the process need to look at yourselves and ask, why do I find it necessary to denigrate others to make myself feel superior ?

 

[Anonymous person]

Are you serious? He had a few bad years with a very average roster which was then affected pretty dramatically by the ownership crisis, not getting paid and the tragedy of the alex mckinnon incident... He has the track record to prove he is a quality coach with the success that Griffin could only dream of.

But your obviously right, dark days ahead.

all im seeing is excuses excuses excuses, just like some of us predicted would happen if he didnt win a premiership in newcastle. its everyone and everythings fault apart from bennett, he never deserves any of the blame.

newcastles roster was not average. They had the most rep players out of any team in the league, a good halves pairing, one of the form fullbacks of the last few years, a very good forward pack, the best winger in the comp, and (not in my opinion, but many believe it) one of the best hookers of the modern game.

I find it hard to believe that the ownership crisis really affected the players either. They were always going to get their money, even if it was a bit late - the $10mil (or was it 20?) bank guarantee guaranteed that. who owns the club has no bearing on the players. they certainly wouldnt go out there and play sub-par because of who owns the club lol.

 

[Foordy]

Some of our posters on here sure carry grudges ! What's worse is the way they swoop on some journos dribble because it suits their agenda.

Try considering that WB took an offer made to him. Whatever he was paid is what the market was offering, it's not something WB can be blamed for. WB has done nothing underhanded truthfully replying to media questions. Although I consider it his business what he was offered and the timing of those offers he told the world he hadn't made up his mind but wouldn't be taking a job from an employer until a position was declared vacant.

How the **** do we know what happened behind the scenes ? Murdoch, after talking with the board decided to tell WB the position at the Broncos was his if he chose in 2015 . That was the most likely scenario I believe. He also was probably asked to come back with his decision before the weekend was over. He didn't do anything wrong by ringing Murdoch to say he'd accept the position, same as anyone else would have done.

As for leaving clubs in a bad position, tell me the names of all the coaches who have left a club differently. What is interesting to note is that two of the three clubs he left in supposedly bad states desperately wanted him back and the other didn't want him to ever leave !!!

So much for that stupid argument !

Griffin was a novice and a failure as was Henjak before him. The Broncos decided they would not repeat that mistake. They, not WB decided they wanted WB back and made him a great offer and as usual for the great man, he acted with dignity and honour. Those of you who find fault with the process need to look at yourselves and ask, why do I find it necessary to denigrate others to make myself feel superior ?

you conradict yourself here ...

first you say "How the **** do we know what happened behind the scenes?" then you go on with a bunch of assumptions and guesses about how things may or may not have happened.

so i'll ask you this: how the **** do you know that what happened wasn't exactly as has been reported in the media?. i.e. that Wayne Bennett decided that he wanted to be back at the Broncos and instead of phoning the board to offer his services, rany the News Corp boss, Murdoch to ensure he got exactly what he wanted.

 

[Foordy]

all im seeing is excuses excuses excuses, just like some of us predicted would happen if he didnt win a premiership in newcastle. its everyone and everythings fault apart from bennett, he never deserves any of the blame.

newcastles roster was not average. They had the most rep players out of any team in the league, a good halves pairing, one of the form fullbacks of the last few years, a very good forward pack, the best winger in the comp, and (not in my opinion, but many believe it) one of the best hookers of the modern game.

I find it hard to believe that the ownership crisis really affected the players either. They were always going to get their money, even if it was a bit late - the $10mil (or was it 20?) bank guarantee guaranteed that. who owns the club has no bearing on the players. they certainly wouldnt go out there and play sub-par because of who owns the club lol.

and if they did that they would lose any hope of getting a decent offer from another club (if thats what they desired)