MELTDOWN Wayne Bennett - Moves to Souths

Should Wayne Bennett's Contract be Extended?

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Broncapz said:
Why does everyone forget Demitriou? The guy has an insane win rate across multiple clubs as head coach. Sure it's only state league, but people like Madge / Hasler / Walters have already BOMBED head coach positions elsewhere.

Seibold and JD are the only contenders without failure in their history.
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Seibold missed the finals with the Cutters as head coach. Kevvie's record at ISC is better than JD and Seibold.
 
Broncapz said:
Why does everyone forget Demitriou? The guy has an insane win rate across multiple clubs as head coach. Sure it's only state league, but people like Madge / Hasler / Walters have already BOMBED head coach positions elsewhere.

Seibold and JD are the only contenders without failure in their history.
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A lot of people would just prefer an experienced option.

Personally, I don't think JD is the right choice. His attacking style just doesn't seem to suit us. We had the best strike rate in the attacking 20 in the comp (even in 2016) until JD came along and now we seem to struggle to score points when in the attacking zone.
 
Nashy said:
So a pretty bog average team, in a bog average comp, with all the pressure a shit hole like Mackay would put on him.... yeah. ISC don't count mate, it's poo.
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Not terribly relevant. Point was If old mate pumps for JD based on his ISC record then dismisses Seibold’s ISC record that’s not balanced.
 
It would never happen, but Trent Robinson would be a great steal if we could manage to get him. Roosters defence was amazing this year - only 2 intercept tries against them in the last 2 weeks against the Bunnies and the Storm!
 
1910 said:
Not terribly relevant. Point was If old mate pumps for JD based on his ISC record then dismisses Seibold’s ISC record that’s not balanced.
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I wasn't quoting him. I was quoting you.
 
The problem this year was that the gap between our best and our worst was huge. This says to me that we are mentally flawed. Whether that’s because we have so many young ones who came in and it’s mainly immaturity or that we lack a real leader who’s willing to put up their hand and say, “Follow me boys, let’s do this”, I don’t know but things need to change for next year.
 
ivanhungryjak said:
The problem this year was that the gap between our best and our worst was huge. This says to me that we are mentally flawed. Whether that’s because we have so many young ones who came in and it’s mainly immaturity or that we lack a real leader who’s willing to put up their hand and say, “Follow me boys, let’s do this”, I don’t know but things need to change for next year.
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No amount of quality coaching can make up for the lack of true on-field leadership.

It's no coincidence that the Broncos have gone backwards, especially when under the pump, since the retirement of Lockyer, Hodges and Parker, and for mine, Gillett is at least one player capable of at least significantly filling the leadership role next year.

The side seriously missed his defence as much as his leadership this year
 
1910 said:
He was at the start of the year he was given a choice and thought he'd do the other side this year. Went back to attack.
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So realistically he's still to blame for a lot of our problems in defence this year. I can only assume that a lot of the defensive structures and styles are ingrained in to the players during the off-season, imagine training for months in the off-season, pre-season & early on in the NRL season with a certain type of defence only to have him piss off back to attack a few weeks in to the season, that couldn't have been good for anyone.
 
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Bennett to the Tigers is the latest rumour.
 
Bennett offered to Wests Tigers
Brent ReadOctober 2, 2018
Brisbane coach Wayne Bennett could be heading to Wests Tigers
Wests Tigers are weighing up a move for Wayne Bennett after the club was asked whether they would be interested in signing the seven-time premiership winner as a replacement for Ivan Cleary.
Bennett has already been told by the Broncos that his contract will not be extended beyond next season, leaving him on the lookout for another club as he attempts to continue his coaching career beyond his 70th birthday.
The Tigers have emerged as frontline contenders given they are resigned to losing Cleary — he has a contract until the end of 2020 but has received an offer from Penrith, where his son Nathan recently signed an extension.
Intriguingly, Cleary and Bennett are managed by the same company — SFX Sports — and it is understood the Tigers have already been approached about whether they would consider signing the Brisbane coach in a move that would allow Cleary to leave at the end of next season.
The Tigers want an experienced coach to replace Cleary and in that regard Bennett is far and away the most logical option given he has coached more than 800 games across four clubs, winning a host of premierships along the way.
It is believed they are also giving serious consideration to Michael Maguire, who has been coaching New Zealand since leaving South Sydney at the end of 2017.
Adding to the coaching intrigue, Bennett has been linked with a number of clubs since news emerged of his potential departure from Brisbane, the Tigers leaping to the head of the queue given they are exploring their options with the likely departure of Cleary sooner rather than later.
Manly are the only other club actively in the market for a coach, although it is understood their job has become a straight shootout between Maguire and John Cartwright. Rumours persist that the Sea Eagles may be up for sale, which could have an impact on their coaching search.
Maguire has also been linked with the Broncos as a replacement for Bennett and Brisbane would be his preferred destination.
However, the Broncos have also been linked with South Sydney coach Anthony Seibold, who has another year on his deal and is locked in talks with the Rabbitohs over an extension, as well as Queensland State of Origin coach Kevin Walters.
Bennett is by far the most decorated coach on the open market and his signing would be a massive coup for the Tigers.
Many would consider it a significant upgrade on their existing coach given Cleary is yet to win a premiership — Bennett has won seven during a career spanning more than 30 years in the premiership.
He led the Broncos to the finals this year, although they capitulated in week one when they were badly beaten by St George Illawarra at Suncorp Stadium.
He was already on borrowed time at the Broncos before that loss and his fate was sealed a matter of weeks later when the club’s board of directors confirmed he would not have his contract extended beyond 2019.
The club has offered him an ambassadorial role but he has made it clear that his preference is to continue coaching, leaving him up for grabs.
Cleary is yet to announce his plans but it is widely assumed that he will leave the Tigers to join his son at Penrith. The Panthers have already made the decision to leave caretaker Cameron Ciraldo in charge next season subject to Cleary’s availability.
The Tigers will dictate what happens next although there is a growing belief that they would be better placed allowing him to leave before his contract expires.
While some have suggested they would be best placed allowing him to go now, the Tigers could look to make Cleary stay another year, which would fit in nicely with the end of Bennett’s contract.
The alternative would be to cut Cleary loose now and potentially replace him with Maguire, a move that would leave Bennett to explore his options elsewhere.
A host of coaches come off contract at the end of 2019, several of whom need fast starts next season to secure their futures.
Parramatta’s Brad Arthur and Canterbury’s Dean Pay are among the coaches who will start next season under immense pressure and Bennett’s shadow looms large over both clubs given their respective financial muscle.
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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...y/news-story/1275b0f1c7d3edf758deefff7813c5ad
 
Not 1 quote in the whole article.

Seems unlikely that Bennett would want to move to tigers given he only has a couple years left in the game. Why go to a development club for a couple years unless it is solely about money.

I for one hope that he just gives it away at the end of 2019 and looks to take on a role in the back office.
 
Unbreakable said:
So realistically he's still to blame for a lot of our problems in defence this year. I can only assume that a lot of the defensive structures and styles are ingrained in to the players during the off-season, imagine training for months in the off-season, pre-season & early on in the NRL season with a certain type of defence only to have him piss off back to attack a few weeks in to the season, that couldn't have been good for anyone.
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Wasn't his call, I think he was happy getting a grounding in defence.
 
Wayne Bennett’s grand final record dwarfs Storm coach Craig Bellamy’s win ratio

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Craig Bellamy’s winning-percentage in grand finals had dropped to 50.
STORM coach Craig Bellamy’s record in grand finals slipped further behind Wayne Bennett’s with his comprehensive 21-6 loss to the Roosters.
Bellamy is clearly one of the best mentors in the game, but his record in grand finals is now down to 50 per cent, with four wins in eight games.
That puts the Storm coach down to a lowly seventh on the list of most winningest coaches in grand final history with a minimum of five games coached.
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Ken Kearney (5 from 5), Jack Gibson (5 from 6), Norm Provan, Clive Churchill and Tim Sheens (4 from 5) and Wayne Bennett (7-9) all have better win ratios in grand finals.
Wayne Bennett is the only coach to have been at the helm for more grand finals than Bellamy, but his winning-percentage is far superior.
Des Hasler (2 from 5), Bob Fulton and Warren Ryan (2 from 6) round out the top 10.
Bellamy’s record is hurt further by the fact two of his grand final victories were erased from the record books due to the Storm’s salary cap scandal.
However when you look at results in deciders, his four victories in eight matches is a worrying conversion rate when compared to Bennett’s seven victories from nine grand finals.
A closer look at for-and-against of the coaches two teams in grand finals paints an even darker picture for Bellamy.
Bellamy-coached grand final sides have scored an average of 16.4 points and conceded 15.5.
By comparison Bennett-coached teams have scored on average 21.2 points and conceded just 10.1
OW THE ROOSTERS ARE CELEBRATING THE PREMIERSHIP
The statistics show that Bellamy is a defence-minded coach who gets his team up for the fight, with the exception of the 40-0 thrashing at the hands of Manly in the 2008 decider.
So do Bellamy teams score enough points in order to consistently win grand finals?
Only twice (34-8 v Manly in 2007) and (34-6 v Cowboys in 2017) have Bellamy teams scored 10 or more points than their opposition on grand final day.
In contrast, four of Bennett’s grand final wins have been blow outs (28-8 v Dragons in 1992), (26-8 v Sharks in 1997), (38-12 v Bulldogs in 1998) and (32-8 v Roosters in 2010).
Bellamy has also lost two grand finals when coming in as raging hot favourites.
The Storm lost Bellamy’s first grand final (8-15 v Broncos in 2006), despite finishing the regular season a whopping 12 points ahead of Bennett’s Brisbane side that finished third.
Bellamy also lost the decider (12-14 v Sharks in 2016) after finishing as minor premiers, three points ahead of third placed Cronulla.
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Craig Bellamy consoles Scott Hill after the 2006 Grand Final.
So while Bellamy is a brilliant coach in the regular season winning six minor premierships, does he need to change his approach to improve his record in grand finals?
Bennett too has six minor premierships to his name, but he also has seven premierships to Bellamy’s four grand final wins for just two premierships.
Getting to eight grand finals is a magnificent feat, but winning grand finals is another matter entirely.
Bellamy would be burning that he has made it all the way to the last day of the season three years in a row and only managed to walk away with one title.
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It had to be said. And that doesn’t even take into account the cheating roster years. Even less if you count the cheating wins as losses.

From Fox Sports.
 
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Foordy said:
you are so full of shit it's not even funny
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Yeah, I'm so over this fool.
Has he ever added anything other than bullsh!t to to this site? Can we get rid of him please?
 
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