Wayne Bennett quits Knights... Is he coming back?

[Ari Gold]

I'm certainly ok with us going down that path but it is a risky as opposed to installing Bennett as coach IMO.

Absolutely it's risky. But the rewards are better. By the time next year starts he'll be 65. Realistically, how long can he keep going for? I'd much rather we find the next WB, a guy who'll be at the helm for the next 10-15 years and bring uber success to the club. Of course, if the plan if for WB for a few years as a bridge to Lockyer or Cam Smith as coach, then that's ok, but I just don't see the benefits of WB back as head coach being as big a newer coach working out.

 

[Bull Shark]

Gus' two cents fwiw ...

easy for him to say in the afterglow of a win I guess .. would question whether he'd be of the same opinion if he was football manager of this club instead of Penrith ... would also question his apparent knowledge of Griffin's coaching abilities from 1000 km away...


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@AdamColbran Disagree. Broncos are on rise. I have high hopes for that team. I think coach is very good. Persevere All teams go through this

 

[Bucking Beads]

Absolutely it's risky. But the rewards are better. By the time next year starts he'll be 65. Realistically, how long can he keep going for? I'd much rather we find the next WB, a guy who'll be at the helm for the next 10-15 years and bring uber success to the club. Of course, if the plan if for WB for a few years as a bridge to Lockyer or Cam Smith as coach, then that's ok, but I just don't see the benefits of WB back as head coach being as big a newer coach working out.

I can't argue with any of this. The trouble is finding the next Bennett, Bellamy or Hasler

 

[Cult]

If Wayne Bennett returns to us next year ... there's going to be another 3 years (the likely length of his contract) of whinging and complaining about the style of footy we are playing... because Bennett-ball and Griffin-ball are identical.

the biggest difference between the 2 is that when Bennett was last here playing that style, he had the genius of a Lockyer or Langer or Walters etc to rely on

I don't think it's the style getting us in trouble this year. We need better defense and players getting punished for their shit efforts every week and players playing in their correct positions. We scored 34 points last night. Last year we were flat out getting 4 points.

 

[Foordy]

I don't think it's the style getting us in trouble this year. We need better defense and players getting punished for their shit efforts every week and players playing in their correct positions. We scored 34 points last night. Last year we were flat out getting 4 points.

Bennett has never really done much of this either.

how long did guys like Steve Michaels keep their spots despite stinking it up every week.

 

[Morkel]

The difference between Bennett & Griffin is that Bennett will have the balls to drop players. Griffin won't because to him it's tantamount to admitting choosing the wrong players from the start. Bennett's never been scared to do that, he'll be ruthless to the players which will make the players ruthless on the field.

 

[Cult]

Bennett has never really done much of this either.

how long did guys like Steve Michaels keep their spots despite stinking it up every week.

Yeah my response didn't really advocate either Bennett or Hook. I want Bennett involved somehow but then I want someone who has had nothing to do with the current crop so he doesn't feel bad when dropping them to ISC. Someone told me a while back on here that Walters played with Parker in his last year or something but I don't think that really counts. I'd like to somehow get Bennett, Walters and the Walker Brothers involved somehow.

 

[Morkel]

Bennett has never really done much of this either.

how long did guys like Steve Michaels keep their spots despite stinking it up every week.

Michaels was going well, remember. That left side was going better than our Hodges & Folau combo, admittedly because oppositions didn't expect the attack to come from there. Michaels derped it up for a couple of games defensively, and he wasn't simply dropped, he was shipped off to another club.

 

[Big Pete]

Yep, Michaels was a Henjak guy.

Think Foordy means Stuart Kelly, Brad Meyers, Dane Carlaw - those types.

 

[Morkel]

What about Tame Tupou? Our leading try scorer IIRC and was almost unstoppable on the field. Bennett dumps him for "poor attitude", the other players get the hint, and their ruthlessness wins us the premiership.

 

[Big Pete]

Tupou suffered an injury against Cronulla in 2006 and by the time he came back, Hodges was killing it at fullback and Hunt had settled on his wing.

He was let go in 2007 for his poor attitude and it took the Broncos a long time to improve.

Seymour and Costigan were dumped for their off-field indiscretions. Eastwood was dropped as well for a DUI.

 

[Anonymous person]

The difference between Bennett & Griffin is that Bennett will have the balls to drop players. ...... Bennett's never been scared to do that, he'll be ruthless to the players which will make the players ruthless on the field.

Not sure how long you've been following the Broncos, but I can assure you you're very wrong about that lol.

The Broncos became a haven for nuffies who were "good blokes". Many of them ended up playing 100+ games when really they shouldn't have made 20.

players like Michaels, Kelly, Minto, Perry, B.Berrigan, McGuire, Stagg, Lacey, etc were all clear as day nuffies, yet somehow they got a position in the Broncos squad every week even when there were better options. Bennett was the king of being the complete opposite of ruthless lol.

 

[Cult]

Not sure how long you've been following the Broncos, but I can assure you you're very wrong about that lol.

The Broncos became a haven for nuffies who were "good blokes". Many of them ended up playing 100+ games when really they shouldn't have made 20.

players like Michaels, Kelly, Minto, Perry, B.Berrigan, McGuire, Stagg, Lacey, etc were all clear as day nuffies, yet somehow they got a position in the Broncos squad every week even when there were better options. Bennett was the king of being the complete opposite of ruthless lol.

I'm not entirely sure on the definition of nuffies but I don't think they were that bad. Stagg played Origin. Casey McGuire was a better utility than Kurt Gidley claims to be. Minto did a lot of good stuff, Kelly did too. Shane Perry did enough but was lucky to have God beside him. Lacey and Barry Berrigan didn't do a lot but still did their jobs. There have definitely been worse players with longer careers at other clubs.

 

[CaptainHook]

players like Michaels, Kelly, Minto, Perry, B.Berrigan, McGuire, Stagg, Lacey, etc were all clear as day nuffies, yet somehow they got a position in the Broncos squad every week even when there were better options. Bennett was the king of being the complete opposite of ruthless lol.

Can't argue with a lot of those names but have to disagree about Stagg and B. Berrigan. Stagg was quite a good player, especially in defense - didn't he have the record for most tackles in a Broncos game at one stage? I could be wrong. It seems his best days are behind him now, though.

Barry Berrigan was going great in 2004 but injuries really hampered him and eventually he had to retire. He may not have been as good as Shaun but he was a quality player.

 

[Mr Fourex]

The difference between Bennett & Griffin is that Bennett will have the balls to drop players. Griffin won't because to him it's tantamount to admitting choosing the wrong players from the start.

Not necessarily true. Griffin dropped Corey Norman last year

Dropped a certain P Wallace from the run on squad as well.

 

[Ari Gold]

At least WB makes the changes when they have a chance to impact the game/season and turn the result our way. Griffin does not.

For instance, that Prelim final against the Dogs, WB swapped Hodges to fullback at half time and he and Berrigan destroyed them in the second half and the rest in history.

Meanwhile, Griffin puts Hodges to fullback in the last 15mins of our final against the Cowboys when the game was already over. He also moved Hunt to halfback last year when our season was basically over. Had he bothered to from the start we might have made the finals, like we may this year. Of course, we won't, because he's too stubborn to try someone else at five eight.

 

[Harry Sack]

Not sure how long you've been following the Broncos, but I can assure you you're very wrong about that lol.

The Broncos became a haven for nuffies who were "good blokes". Many of them ended up playing 100+ games when really they shouldn't have made 20.

players like Michaels, Kelly, Minto, Perry, B.Berrigan, McGuire, Stagg, Lacey, etc were all clear as day nuffies, yet somehow they got a position in the Broncos squad every week even when there were better options. Bennett was the king of being the complete opposite of ruthless lol.

Would never drop his illegitimate son tbh.

 

[Morkel]

Not necessarily true. Griffin dropped Corey Norman last year

Dropped a certain P Wallace from the run on squad as well.

And weren't they well overdue! By those timelines, we should expect Hoffman back on the wing in round 20 and Hodges to #6 at 70:00 in round 26. Even then he'll keep Copley on the fucking wing and throw Stagg in the centres...