What is happening at the Broncos?

[Lockysillegitimatechild]

ok. This is getting kind of ridiculous. Someone, asked me when I joined. I couldn't remember but the person later told me it was right after the Newcastle loss. Apparently this made me a Newcastle supporter. So the way this person arrived at that conclusion was that I was upset after the Newcastle loss and got on here and denounced Milford, Bird, Boyd and Bennett. I guess it could be reverse psychology. Or maybe that person is practicing reverse psychology by branding me a Newcastle supporter. What do you think?



See above.



It was in a News Ltd article just this week. I believe Tuesday but it may have been Wednesday or Monday. Maybe they are wrong. I don't know but I presume they have some insider knowledge.



See above about the News Ltd article and why do you keep raving about Brown? I could give an opinion but I just don't care enough. I'm just over Bennett and I believe by re-signing my 3 pet peeves for that much money and for that length of time, he is either senile or putting some personal agenda above the good of the club and team. I hope he proves me wrong but at this stage, I can't see it.

And BTW, he left Newcastle in a monumental mess. Worse than Hasler at Manly and it's looking like worse than Hasler at Canterbury. By saying that, does it make me a Newcastle/Manly/Canterbury supporter? If not, why not?



Huh?

Once again, some real good points raised. I think I'll end the discussion with that, we are going in circles. The bit about "he left them in a monumental mess" was really insightful. Great discussion, you really gave me some great evidence and really changed my perspective on the situation with your clever responses that were filled with facts, rather then biased and subjective opinion. Keep up the good work

 

[Pub Steak]

Agree can’t have a pack of Rookies but experience benefits are likely far outweighed by poor performance, in Thaidays case make the same stupid mistakes and failure to lead by example. Otherwise just teaching the young blokes to take the piss. When fit have a pack with McCullough, Macca, Gillo, Glenn for experience. Be nice if Sims or Thaiday were earning their spot and giving experience bonus but barring an odd good game they are not. Taga has experience and deserves an opportunity to share it.

Agree they are both not pulling their weight and without the injuries we’ve got they’re prob a liability. Taga should get a go over Thaiday and being dropped for a week or two might shake him up a bit. Saw some good signs from sims thurs night but again his consistency is munted. Wish we had Tariq instead. You just gotta hope that Korbin ups his game to try and get a new contract (whether here or elsewhere).

 

[Socnorb]

An antidote to Kent.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...e/news-story/a49e50a47d2febc22dafc833afb97d4b

 

[Morkel]

An antidote to Kent.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...e/news-story/a49e50a47d2febc22dafc833afb97d4b

Paywall’d.

 

[Chewed]

Paywall’d.

Put outline.com/ in front of the www. and you get it.

 

[Aldo]

Put outline.com/ in front of the www. and you get it.

What is this voodoo you speak of? It worked!!!

 

[Reyter]

Once again, some real good points raised. I think I'll end the discussion with that, we are going in circles. The bit about "he left them in a monumental mess" was really insightful. Great discussion, you really gave me some great evidence and really changed my perspective on the situation with your clever responses that were filled with facts, rather then biased and subjective opinion. Keep up the good work

I wasn't trying to change your perspective. I'm only interested in what is it is. What is your connection to Bennett? After I went to the trouble to show the half a team of 30+ year-olds to compliment the half team of existing 30+ year-olds he recruited, you don't drop it but double down on your embellishment.

I'm not trying to argue with But no, you are right. Newcastle insiders, management, former players, current players, player managers, RL journalists and rival coaches are all wrong.

I'm going to be honest. I don't really like the guy from what I know of his public persona (I don't know him personally). I think he is still coaching quite well..... considering the team he has put together. You on the other hand obviously think the sun shines out of his ass. So we will never agree about it.

 

[Broncos Maestro]

An antidote to Kent.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...e/news-story/a49e50a47d2febc22dafc833afb97d4b

Unfortunately Kent will probably pull a Trump and say it’s fake news.

 

[Broncos Maestro]

Put outline.com/ in front of the www. and you get it.

Does it work with all paywalled articles??

 

[Lockysillegitimatechild]

I wasn't trying to change your perspective. I'm only interested in what is it is. What is your connection to Bennett? After I went to the trouble to show the half a team of 30+ year-olds to compliment the half team of existing 30+ year-olds he recruited, you don't drop it but double down on your embellishment.

I'm not trying to argue with But no, you are right. Newcastle insiders, management, former players, current players, player managers, RL journalists and rival coaches are all wrong.

I'm going to be honest. I don't really like the guy from what I know of his public persona (I don't know him personally). I think he is still coaching quite well..... considering the team he has put together. You on the other hand obviously think the sun shines out of his ass. So we will never agree about it.

Haha once again you use opinion to back up your claims, name the Newcastle insiders, etc. I bet you can't name 3 that were involved in the club at the time. Danny Buderus talked highly of Bennett last night during his commentary on fox sports last night actually, he was there and is a club legend. Paul crawleys brother was the nsw cup coach that was at the top of the table during bennetts tenure. Why are they praising him?

The 30+ year olds I discussed that point already, most of them left BEFORE bennetts spell was finished so HOW does that have an effect on performances 3 years later.

You don't even name names about the weak opinion-based "evidence" you have, AND you dodge every single point I made in the last post, and every other post.

Haha I don't think the shines out of his ass, he's made plenty of mistakes as coach (Thaiday is one of them currently), in just asking you to provide proof of your claim rather then "because they said so"...

This has gotten a bit boring tbh, I got over "because he said so" debates in year 3

 

[Reyter]

Haha once again you use opinion to back up your claims, name the Newcastle insiders, etc. I bet you can't name 3 that were involved in the club at the time. Danny Buderus talked highly of Bennett last night during his commentary on fox sports last night actually, he was there and is a club legend. Paul crawleys brother was the nsw cup coach that was at the top of the table during bennetts tenure. Why are they praising him?

The 30+ year olds I discussed that point already, most of them left BEFORE bennetts spell was finished so HOW does that have an effect on performances 3 years later.

You don't even name names about the weak opinion-based "evidence" you have, AND you dodge every single point I made in the last post, and every other post.

Haha I don't think the shines out of his ass, he's made plenty of mistakes as coach (Thaiday is one of them currently), in just asking you to provide proof of your claim rather then "because they said so"...

This has gotten a bit boring tbh, I got over "because he said so" debates in year 3

In answer to your question, Paul Harrigon, Mathew Johns, Mathew Gidley.
So your basic position is that he got rid of a couple of 30+ year-olds and signed several others to replace them. Sounds like a plan! Hindsight has shown it was a good plan............

Anyway, I don't think he is doing it now. Boyd should have been offered no more than 2 years with a one year option in the clubs favor. At best! IMO even that is too generous given the money he is on.

Also signing Bird for anymore than 500-600k was a mistake. Also letting Hunt go and throwing the money at Milford was a mistake. Thaiday is in his last year and I don't think he is on that much money. He doesn't bring much to the team but can still be relied upon to make a decent amount of meters, a decent number of tackles and not many mistakes. I don't have a problem with him still in the team. At least for now.

Other than that, I think he (Bennett) is doing quite well. Those 3 are very big mistakes. Maybe Milford will prove me wrong but I can't imagine Boyd or Bird doing so. Other than that, I was watching a Fox talk show. I can't remember which. Mathew Johns said all the coaches have agreed to come on the show except Bennett. Then his cringe-worthy press conferences. Particularly the one at the start of the season about "you will never divide this club". So as for coaching, I'd give him a 5/10. In regard conducting himself in the context of his high profile position, I'd give him a 1/10. Not good enough IMO! No wonder the club was chasing Green and now Bellamy. But then again, what he did at Newcastle shows it could be much worse:superhappythumbsup:.

 

[pagey]

[EDIT] Personal attack.

 

[Wolfie]

In answer to your question, Paul Harrigon, Mathew Johns, Mathew Gidley.
So your basic position is that he got rid of a couple of 30+ year-olds and signed several others to replace them. Sounds like a plan! Hindsight has shown it was a good plan............

Anyway, I don't think he is doing it now. Boyd should have been offered no more than 2 years with a one year option in the clubs favor. At best! IMO even that is too generous given the money he is on.

Also signing Bird for anymore than 500-600k was a mistake. Also letting Hunt go and throwing the money at Milford was a mistake. Thaiday is in his last year and I don't think he is on that much money. He doesn't bring much to the team but can still be relied upon to make a decent amount of meters, a decent number of tackles and not many mistakes. I don't have a problem with him still in the team. At least for now.

Other than that, I think he (Bennett) is doing quite well. Those 3 are very big mistakes. Maybe Milford will prove me wrong but I can't imagine Boyd or Bird doing so. Other than that, I was watching a Fox talk show. I can't remember which. Mathew Johns said all the coaches have agreed to come on the show except Bennett. Then his cringe-worthy press conferences. Particularly the one at the start of the season about "you will never divide this club". So as for coaching, I'd give him a 5/10. In regard conducting himself in the context of his high profile position, I'd give him a 1/10. Not good enough IMO! No wonder the club was chasing Green and now Bellamy. But then again, what he did at Newcastle shows it could be much worse:superhappythumbsup:.

What do you call not a lot of money for Sammy? He is on around the 350k mark, thats a decent wedge for somebody at his stage of his career. And also, please dont say we let Hunt go, we didnt, he chose to leave for a huge contract. We didnt kick him out or not make him an offer, he just got a better one. Same with most players who have left. Except for Moga, we wanted to keep the majority of players who have left and are doing well elsewhere, we just couldnt afford to keep them all.

Also, if you cant see Bennett is simply playing the media, you are either naive, a fool, or you just dont know how Wayne Bennett operates. He has been doing that sort of thing since 1988. Its not like he has suddenly started doing it. There is also no evidence we have been chasing Green or Bellamy. All we have to go on are some reports from the press, the same press who have been doing everything they can to both undermine Broncos as a club and Bennett as a coach.

Has Bennett made some errors? Absolutley, every coach does. Considering he has had us challenging pretty strongly for his first 2 years since he came back i dont think his coaching is stuggling at all. We are doing fine considering we are in a little bit of a transition phase.

 

[Porthoz]

Argue the opinion, not the poster!
If you have a problem with a member, actually use the ignore function instead of talking about it.

 

[Reyter]

What do you call not a lot of money for Sammy? He is on around the 350k mark, thats a decent wedge for somebody at his stage of his career. And also, please dont say we let Hunt go, we didnt, he chose to leave for a huge contract. We didnt kick him out or not make him an offer, he just got a better one. Same with most players who have left. Except for Moga, we wanted to keep the majority of players who have left and are doing well elsewhere, we just couldnt afford to keep them all.

Also, if you cant see Bennett is simply playing the media, you are either naive, a fool, or you just dont know how Wayne Bennett operates. He has been doing that sort of thing since 1988. Its not like he has suddenly started doing it. There is also no evidence we have been chasing Green or Bellamy. All we have to go on are some reports from the press, the same press who have been doing everything they can to both undermine Broncos as a club and Bennett as a coach.

Has Bennett made some errors? Absolutley, every coach does. Considering he has had us challenging pretty strongly for his first 2 years since he came back i dont think his coaching is stuggling at all. We are doing fine considering we are in a little bit of a transition phase.

350k for a forward who churns out a decent number of meters, makes a decent number of tackles and doesn't make many mistakes seems pretty reasonable, doesn't it? Actually, maybe in the clubs favor. He should ask Boyd to top up his salary.

I think we just have to agree to disagree about Bennett. I don't think there was any need to be in a transition phase if that is what we are in. And as for his media commitments, the game has changed a lot since 1988. I just find his consistently angry or bitter old man like persona really annoying.

 

[lynx000]

350k for a forward who churns out a decent number of meters, makes a decent number of tackles and doesn't make many mistakes seems pretty reasonable, doesn't it? Actually, maybe in the clubs favor. He should ask Boyd to top up his salary.

I think we just have to agree to disagree about Bennett. I don't think there was any need to be in a transition phase if that is what we are in. And as for his media commitments, the game has changed a lot since 1988. I just find his consistently angry or bitter old man like persona really annoying.

I'm sure he lies awake at night worrying about your opinion. As Wolfie said, this is Bennett's schtick, the grumpy old man routine has been in place for 30 years, even before he was a grumpy old man.

 

[Wolfie]

350k for a forward who churns out a decent number of meters, makes a decent number of tackles and doesn't make many mistakes seems pretty reasonable, doesn't it? Actually, maybe in the clubs favor. He should ask Boyd to top up his salary.

I think we just have to agree to disagree about Bennett. I don't think there was any need to be in a transition phase if that is what we are in. And as for his media commitments, the game has changed a lot since 1988. I just find his consistently angry or bitter old man like persona really annoying.

Every club goes through a transition phase. Players come and go, they get older and retire or better player come through the system.

 

[Huge]

Hav

350k for a forward who churns out a decent number of meters, makes a decent number of tackles and doesn't make many mistakes seems pretty reasonable, doesn't it? Actually, maybe in the clubs favor. He should ask Boyd to top up his salary.

I think we just have to agree to disagree about Bennett. I don't think there was any need to be in a transition phase if that is what we are in. And as for his media commitments, the game has changed a lot since 1988. I just find his consistently angry or bitter old man like persona really annoying.

Have a good think about the coaches and the media, their relationship. Now tell me, which one of the coaches provides the most grist for the mill ? Which coach has the most lines written about him ? Which coach generates the most interest ? Have you ever considered that WB masterfully plays his role while meeting two demands, namely to generate interest in the game and simultaneously keeping his private thoughts just that, private ?

It's a funny thing about perception, I hardly ever think he's angry or bitter. I think he doesn't suffer fools and sees the media as the remora fish on a shark and like the shark he simply tolerates and ignores. You really need to look through less biased eyes and see the genius in his handling of the remora.