The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

[Super Freak]

That major strike weapon the Broncos can recruit better be Izzy.

If not him, then someone else that's not Gagai.

 

[Foordy]

That major strike weapon the Broncos can recruit better be Izzy.

I would love us to get izzy back. However, he will come with a massive price tag, and i reckon he will only cone back to pmay fullback (after being successful in the position in union)

 

[I bleed Maroon]

I would love us to get izzy back. However, he will come with a massive price tag, and i reckon he will only cone back to pmay fullback (after being successful in the position in union)

Play Boyd in the centres to replace Hodges after he retires and play Folau at fullback. Done.

 

[Foordy]

Play Boyd in the centres to replace Hodges after he retires and play Folau at fullback. Done.

Like it or not, Boyd will be our fullback until Bennett retires.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Funny how Bennett is prepared to guarantee a spot for Darius Boyd even when he plays like a busted but he won't even give Ben Barba a fair go.

 

[Cult]

Like it or not, Boyd will be our fullback until Bennett retires.

More ridiculous Foordy facts, ladies and gentleman!

 

[Porthoz]

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[nopatience101]

Barba is not being moved on to make room for Boyd, his best opportunity to make the 17 each week would be off the bench, which you just can't afford to do from a salary cap standpoint, especially when there's at least a handful of guys that can fill that spot and be just as, if not more, effective on far less coin. One of Benny's strengths is getting more out of the salary cap, people on here have been complaining about the clubs recruitment and retention for the last 3 years, now something is being done about it and there's still whinging. Our roster and cap position is now looking a lot healthier than it was a month ago.

 

[Porthoz]

Barba is not being moved on to make room for Boyd, his best opportunity to make the 17 each week would be off the bench, which you just can't afford to do from a salary cap standpoint, especially when there's at least a handful of guys that can fill that spot and be just as, if not more, effective on far less coin. One of Benny's strengths is getting more out of the salary cap, people on here have been complaining about the clubs recruitment and retention for the last 3 years, now something is being done about it and there's still whinging. Our roster and cap position is now looking a lot healthier than it was a month ago.

Sorry, but that bold statement is a contradiction in terms. Would Barba be moved on if Boyd wasn't coming, for whom we are possibly paying a large chunk of the cap (undisclosed amount being carried by the Knights...), possibly more than Barba costs?

Let's not pretend WB hasn't moved heaven and earth to accommodate his love child...

I'm happy to see Barba go for the sake of our salary cap, as for better or worse, WB doesn't rate him (second time he doesn't want him), has made it clear who will be in the spine, and Barba isn't of much use elsewhere.
I hope he kills it again where ever he goes, and wish him the best of luck.

As to the cap, I'm sure Gavet, Garbutt and Waddell's salaries are relatively low, and with Hannant + Hala being gone, we can easily cover that.
The question really is how much of Hoffman, Kennedy and Barba's salaries we will be paying, add it to what we're paying Boyd, and see what the result is.

Of course, once the burden of said salaries is off our cap a few years from now, we will be better off, unless we're rewarding Boyd with some obscene coin... :rolleyes:

 

[Ari Gold]

More ridiculous Foordy facts, ladies and gentleman!

I really don't see what makes it ridiculous. Some people love Boyd and Bennett, some don't. You can argue that all you want but I don't see how you can possibly argue that Bennett doesn't love Boyd.

 

[nopatience101]

Sorry, but that bold statement is a contradiction in terms. Would Barba be moved on if Boyd wasn't coming, for whom we are possibly paying a large chunk of the cap (undisclosed amount being carried by the Knights...), possibly more than Barba costs?

Let's not pretend WB hasn't moved heaven and earth to accommodate his love child...

I'm happy to see Barba go for the sake of our salary cap, as for better or worse, WB doesn't rate him (second time he doesn't want him), has made it clear who will be in the spine, and Barba isn't of much use elsewhere.
I hope he kills it again where ever he goes, and wish him the best of luck.

As to the cap, I'm sure Gavet, Garbutt and Waddell's salaries are relatively low, and with Hannant + Hala being gone, we can easily cover that.
The question really is how much of Hoffman, Kennedy and Barba's salaries we will be paying, add it to what we're paying Boyd, and see what the result is.

Of course, once the burden of said salaries is off our cap a few years from now, we will be better off, unless we're rewarding Boyd with some obscene coin... :rolleyes:

Its not a contradiction because Barba wasn't even playing FB for half the year, despite being signed to play there, and finished the year playing 5/8 and being at least the third choice FB behind Hodges and Hoffman. Boyd isn't taking his spot, he lost it before Boyd even came into the picture.

Bennett didn't sign him so I don't see why he owes him any kind of loyalty.

The coach picks the squad he believes can do the job he wants and with Boyd, like many players before him from Benny's time at the Broncos, Bennett knows what hes going to get from him and can depend on him to fit the role he wants him to play. Had Benny not lasted as long as he did at the Broncos there would have been a lot more boyd-like examples of players following him imo.

I can understand people not embracing Darius signing but I believe he has truly confronted a few personal issues and grown a lot, even in the space of a few months, and I think he will surprise a few people if given the chance.

Even in the short term we are better off both roster wise and cap, like I said what Barba could offer the club off the bench or playing ISC would likely be better utilised by at least a handful of other guys.

 

[Anonymous person]

Barba was moved more because of hoffmans ineptness at five eighth.

Think of it this way. If barba is a 5/10 at fb and a 3/10 at 45/8th, and Hoffman is a 1/10 at 5/8th and a 5/10 at fb, we have a better balanced team with Hoffman at fb and barba at 5/8th.

Ftr I don't think anyone is arguing that letting barba go is a bad thing when you account for the fact that we ARE signing Boyd to play fb no matter what. Its the fact that we are signing Boyd in the first place when we had Barba, Milford and Hoffman on the books that is the point of contention. It'd be like us going out now and signing another fullback after we sign Boyd - overkill and unnecessary.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Barba was moved more because of hoffmans ineptness at five eighth.

Barba was moved because he was proving to be a complete liability at the back.

 

[Anonymous person]

Would they? Which ones are they? Clearly you know more than what is in the papers.

He is contracted to us for the next 2 years and no one will take him so he will play where ever the **** he is told to

firstly, it has been widely reported and discussed in this thread even that the broncos have tried to offload him, and can't because no one wants him currently.

More importantly, I didn't say noone would want him like it was just my opinion, I said no one does, as has been stated. And then YOU accuse ME of not reading what I post. My god...

I just want to point out the hilarity of these posts after barba now has at least 3 clubs gunning for him and reportedly offering over a million a season.

Its also hilarious in the fact that you say that we should believe it because the papers say it, but wouldn't listen when every paper for months said Boyd was coming for sure lol.

 

[nopatience101]

Barba was moved more because of hoffmans ineptness at five eighth.

Think of it this way. If barba is a 5/10 at fb and a 3/10 at 45/8th, and Hoffman is a 1/10 at 5/8th and a 5/10 at fb, we have a better balanced team with Hoffman at fb and barba at 5/8th.

Ftr I don't think anyone is arguing that letting barba go is a bad thing when you account for the fact that we ARE signing Boyd to play fb no matter what. Its the fact that we are signing Boyd in the first place when we had Barba, Milford and Hoffman on the books that is the point of contention. It'd be like us going out now and signing another fullback after we sign Boyd - overkill and unnecessary.

no, it's signing a FB, moving on two FB's who have had opportunities and signing a 5/8.

Bennett has been consistent in recruitment and retention, we now have one FB and one 5/8, not two FB's playing both positions poorly.

If you always do what you always have, then you always get what you've always got. Hoffman has been moved in and out of FB repeatedly over 5 years for the same reason, his ball playing ability is limited. The position will finally have stability to form lasting combinations, as will 5/8.

Bennett likes simple, we now have a clear spine with which to build a side and game plan around and hopefully consistency, no more chopping and changing.

 

[Anonymous person]

Barba was moved because he was proving to be a complete liability at the back.

No, he was moved because Hoffman was about the worst five eighth in the team yet was playing five eighth.

no, it's signing a FB, moving on two FB's who have had opportunities and signing a 5/8.

Bennett has been consistent in recruitment and retention, we now have one FB and one 5/8, not two FB's playing both positions poorly.
.

But now we have one fullback playing poorly and a fullback playing five eighth

 

[rnabokov]

Barba was moved because Bennett wanted Boyd. End of story.

I hope Barba regains his 2012 form where ever he ends up and I hope when he opposes us, he carves us up.

Sorry, signing Boyd for the reasons we signed him sucks.

 

[Ari Gold]

no, it's signing a FB, moving on two FB's who have had opportunities and signing a 5/8.

I agree, though the 5/8 is equally as good at fullback.

Bennett has been consistent in recruitment and retention

This is true. Bennett has been consistent in recruitment and retention. He's always signed Boyd and he's always retained him as his fullback.

If you always do what you always have, then you always get what you've always got.

Which is exactly why Bennett signed Boyd and will play him at fullback. Again, regardless of whether you agree or not, it's simply ridiculous to claim that Bennett has any other intentions now or in the future. The most we'll get is the occasional stint of Hodges playing FB in attack with Boyd shifting to the centres. Which I actually look forward to.