Tesi Niu

You can’t hate these players(Lodge, Luai, Melbourne Storm notwithstanding) but you can hate watching them play or hate that they’re in our team. Anything else is completely irrational.

You can think a player is dumb or lazy though, that’s completely fair. Not many geniuses running around on a footy field though.
 
Skyblues87 said:
You should be ashamed of yourself. How can you hate one of your own players?.
Best you go and support the Dolphins.
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This is a worse argument than "you've never played so don't know".

He plays like shit for my team, hence I hate him.

Simple shit.
 
McHunt said:
I think our difference of opinion comes from me thinking Tesi has some elite talent we need to unlock whereas you've already written him off as a dud. I don't see either of our hookers as having elite talent, just more (some) experience in that position.

I got ridiculed for pointing at Te Maire as the canary, but it's the same logic. I'd rather Tesi left to the Warriors than Te Maire. If we have to manufacture a utility, I see Te Maire able to cover multiple positions at a higher standard than who we retained. Could he be trained to cover hooker for x minutes? Probably, I don't know. But if Adam/Ezra/Reece go down - which they will - he'd save our arse, and we wouldn't miss a beat.

Tesi probably doesn't cover any position, next year. Well, not with any aplomb.
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I agree with this. If we were a chance of retaining TMM and didn't do it (that is, he didn't actually just want to return to NZ) it is a retention mistake.
 
lynx000 said:
I agree with this. If we were a chance of retaining TMM and didn't do it (that is, he didn't actually just want to return to NZ) it is a retention mistake.
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We should've snapped him up for two years back when the" Te Maire is set to sign" thread was posted, if he indeed was up for it. But we don't know whether they were already in a bidding war with the Warriors.

If only we'd offered them Tesi instead.

You'd have to wonder if he was offered a Benji Marshall style utility role and turned it down. He's a fantastic defender but he mightn't be able to handle the increased defensive workload at dummy half.
 
Cult said:
You can think a player is dumb or lazy though, that’s completely fair. Not many geniuses running around on a footy field though.
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Its not really about an intellectual intelligence though.....its about football smarts

Which quite clearly, Tesi has none.
 
Mr Fourex said:
Its not really about an intellectual intelligence though.....its about football smarts

Which quite clearly, Tesi has none.
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Yeah but also, we’ve had plenty of unintelligent players in the jersey over the last few years. Milford couldn’t count to 6 sometimes, Fifita doesn’t know how to read street numbers, Kahu doesn’t know the kick off rules, John Asiata doesn’t believe in being immunised, Jamie Hopoate doesn’t know that drugs are illegal, James Segeyaro can’t make his own shakes, Shibasaki doesn’t know what his hands are used for, Haas needs four blokes to explain everything to him, TPJ didn’t understand lockdown rules, James Roberts couldn’t walk by himself, Joe Ofahengaue had too many dumb things to just list one and Isaako… don’t get me started on Isaako
 
Niu to me, respectfully is a systematic roll player. He could probably fit into Olam's role at the Storm beside Munster, or play To'o's role on the wing for Penrith.

That's not a bad thing for him, because a lot of teams structures are very mechanical in that kind of way, and most NRL coaches IMO would probably prefer like for like players. It's just our structures don't seem to accommodate for that currently.
 
Cult said:
Yeah but also, we’ve had plenty of unintelligent players in the jersey over the last few years. Milford couldn’t count to 6 sometimes, Fifita doesn’t know how to read street numbers, Kahu doesn’t know the kick off rules, John Asiata doesn’t believe in being immunised, Jamie Hopoate doesn’t know that drugs are illegal, James Segeyaro can’t make his own shakes, Shibasaki doesn’t know what his hands are used for, Haas needs four blokes to explain everything to him, TPJ didn’t understand lockdown rules, James Roberts couldn’t walk by himself, Joe Ofahengaue had too many dumb things to just list one and Isaako… don’t get me started on Isaako
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Football players be a bright bunch.
 
McHunt said:
Not what I said. But I know written comprehension is not your strong suit.

But the point remains: Selwyn needed more NRL before playing Origin. Not even a controversial opinion.
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It is what you said, because when other posters called you out about it, you defended the position.
But sure, when your position has been exposed, just deny you ever said it and then resort to childish personal insults.
It says a lot.
 
The chasm between the current class of the 2 players was demonstrated again last night. I hope Tesi is able to continue to work on his game and become first grade standard. He seems like a decent young fella but Martin currently just has so many strengths to his game that Tesi has yet to develop.

I hope those on here who has previously thought the 2 were closer in ability were able to appreciate their differences last night. If you have an understanding of the fullback role, Martin really is a joy to watch.
 
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