2017 Line-up

[Super Freak]

It's not distorted, that's how it was uploaded by the official Broncos Twitter, and that's really how fat Sam is. Just compare him to McGuire, who said last week he was 102kg.. Sam must be at least 115-120kg.

I think you need to go take a look at Thaiday's instagram.

Photos can be deceiving. Certain angles can make you look fatter. So can certain colour shirts, certain fabrics and the way your body is positioned.

Ever heard the expression, "The camera adds 10 pounds."?

 

[Huge]

well then tested enough to know he needed to be moved from the backrow, otherwise he would still be there now

He was moved back out of the backrow because that idiot Griffin prematurely moved him there. It wasn't because he was not up to the job. Just admit you'd forgotten he'd played a full season there and was proven and tested. Everybody is wrong sometime,trying to justify a silly statement is immature, admitting it takes bottle.

 

[Cult]

It's not distorted, that's how it was uploaded by the official Broncos Twitter, and that's really how fat Sam is. Just compare him to McGuire, who said last week he was 102kg.. Sam must be at least 115-120kg.

I didn't say you distorted it. Just that the pictures posted claiming "player x is fat this pre-season" always make the players look like jockeys. Also if I were to anazlyse the picture, Thaiday is much closer to the camera.

 

[Unbreakable]

He was moved back out of the backrow because that idiot Griffin prematurely moved him there. It wasn't because he was not up to the job. Just admit you'd forgotten he'd played a full season there and was proven and tested. Everybody is wrong sometime,trying to justify a silly statement is immature, admitting it takes bottle.

Not to mention he played a lot of his NYC and U20 rep career in the backrow as well, it's not a foreign position to him, so to use his lack of experience or inability to play the position as a reason to keep him on the wing is just silly. Everyone with half a brain knew he was destined to be a backrower sooner rather than later in his career.

 

[Foordy]

entire NYC career in the backrow as well

oh well, that changes everything ... we all know that playing a position in the NYC 5 years ago, means you are definitely ready to start in that position on the NRL.

Hoffman and Barba both played in the halves in the lower grades (Barba actually excelled in the NYC at 5/8) doesn't mean that they are any good at that position in the top grade

 

[Sproj]

Just on Hoffman, anyone else find it funny he has been chosen on the wing for Parra? Given they have Takaraingi and Jennings, not much chance he'll get a shot in the centres and given they've long touted French as their fullback, it's pretty laughable.

Has he finally realised he isn't a fullback?

 

[Foordy]

FTR, i've had my say on it now, we will find out who's right soon enough.

I do think Oates will make a fine backrower, but it will be at least a season before that's the case. and i certainly think that he should start the transition from the bench.

 

[holdzy]

Just on Hoffman, anyone else find it funny he has been chosen on the wing for Parra? Given they have Takaraingi and Jennings, not much chance he'll get a shot in the centres and given they've long touted French as their fullback, it's pretty laughable.

Has he finally realised he isn't a fullback?

He could have been a quality solution for most of his career instead of a consistent problem had that realization occurred earlier.

 

[Unbreakable]

FTR, i've had my say on it now, we will find out who's right soon enough.

I do think Oates will make a fine backrower, but it will be at least a season before that's the case. and i certainly think that he should start the transition from the bench.

???

That's what I've been saying this whole time, are you just arguing with me for the sake of it?

 

[holdzy]

It's not just the religion thread, fellas:

 

[Foordy]

???

That's what I've been saying this whole time, are you just arguing with me for the sake of it?

I'm mainly arguing about you wanting Glenn gone ... but i also believe you said a few games ... not a season

 

[Unbreakable]

I'm mainly arguing about you wanting Glenn gone ... but i also believe you said a few games ... not a season

He's already had a lot of run in the backrow in 2014, and it's already been said by multiple people that he's going to start transitioning in to the backrow this year, I assume that entails playing every game during the origin period there, and potentially spending periods of time there during regular games as well.

And you've obviously missed my first post in this thread on the Glenn discussion, I said he's a great player, and if there's any room in the cap left after we've signed the important players on top of a Halfback, I'd be MORE than happy to keep him. But I just don't think it's a realistic chance of happening, A) because Glenn has said he wants to look after his family with his next contract because he knows it'll potentially be his last big one, he's not going to accept a pay cut & B) because I'm pretty confident in the belief that Wayne wants to throw Su'A & Oates in the deep end as soon as he can to speed up the process.

 

[Foordy]

I'm pretty confident in the belief that Wayne wants to throw Su'A & Oates in the deep end as soon as he can to speed up the process

What makes you believe that ... traditionally Wayne does NOT throw forwards in the deep end, he like to bring them along slowly

 

[pagey]

well then tested enough to know he needed to be moved from the backrow, otherwise he would still be there now

That was hook , oates needed to play first grade so he found him a spot knowing he played fullback when he was younger, and we needed quality backs. Just so happens he has killed it on the wing . If you remember he debuted in the 2nd row and in other games he proved the difference in that position . Sometimes players need to play first grade because they demand it , just like taylor and i think Su'a.

 

[Super Freak]

A) because Glenn has said he wants to look after his family with his next contract because he knows it'll potentially be his last big one, he's not going to accept a pay cut

When did he say this?

 

[Unbreakable]

What makes you believe that ... traditionally Wayne does NOT throw forwards in the deep end, he like to bring them along slowly

I really want to write in capitals right now, because it's currently like talking to Helen Keller. He HAS brought Oates along slowly, he will have played 100 games in first grade by the end of this season, there is not a better time to move him in to the back row than next season, we have an opening with Glenn being off-contract and Thaiday being in the final years of his career, if we re-sign Glenn, Oates & Su'A are basically gone. Oates is only re-signing a 1 year contract for the sole purpose of pressuring us to move him to the backrow in 2018 so he can get a larger pay day in 2019. If we re-sign Glenn and don't move Oates, he will in all likelihood move to a team that doesn't have a log jam in the backrow. And there'd be virtually no reason for Su'A to stick around if he's behind Glenn & Gillett both on contracts expiring in roughly 2020/2021.

How else can I try and explain this easier to you? I'm struggling right now.

 

[pagey]

What makes you believe that ... traditionally Wayne does NOT throw forwards in the deep end, he like to bring them along slowly

Props yes backrowers not so much. You can't tell me that he didn't impress , he played big minutes and was solid. Even if he doesn't turn into a superstar he will be better than glenn .

I really want to write in capitals right now, because it's currently like talking to Helen Keller. He HAS brought Oates along slowly, he will have played 100 games in first grade by the end of this season, there is not a better time to move him in to the back row than next season, we have an opening with Glenn being off-contract and Thaiday being in the final years of his career, if we re-sign Glenn, Oates & Su'A are basically gone. Oates is only re-signing a 1 year contract for the sole purpose of pressuring us to move him to the backrow in 2018 so he can get a larger pay day in 2019. If we re-sign Glenn and don't move Oates, he will in all likelihood move to a team that doesn't have a log jam in the backrow. And there'd be virtually no reason for Su'A to stick around if he's behind Glenn & Gillett both on contracts expiring in roughly 2020/2021.

How else can I try and explain this easier to you? I'm struggling right now.

I feel your pain mate .

 

[Big Pete]

If you remember he debuted in the 2nd row and in other games he proved the difference in that position .

Actually he debuted off the bench against Melbourne and replaced Reed on the bench after Reed injured himself in the first half. That was the game where Maranta blew a number of try scoring opportunities, placing him right up there as one of the worst finishers in the game. He stayed there the next week against Cronulla before transitioning to the wing. I remember before the game NYCDB and myself were shaking our heads because Oates who was mostly a centre in the NYC who was being fashioned into a backrow was playing wing of all positions. Didn't take long for Oates to blow us all away, he was great that evening in what was Ben Hunt's coming out party.

2014 Hook tried to transition him into the backrow but for whatever reason wouldn't give him any time off the bench. He had his moments in the position, but he was far more effective out-wide.

I think we're getting ahead of ourselves on Oates. He's still the best winger at the club and unless something dramatic happens, that's where he'll stay for the majority of the season. In 2018 he'll be 24 and that's where he may begin the transition, but I don't see it as an overnight deal. Like a lot of backs who made their way into the forwards, he'll find himself playing a mixture of both and that will probably be the case until 2019 if not 2020.