Mr Fourex
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This is the only reason......otherwise who really gives a ****?
This is the only reason......otherwise who really gives a ****?
Wolfie
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Alcohol is legal though, it's not a banned substance. It's stupid to play with a lot of it in your system but when you hear him talk about alcohol or drugs he said he used it as a coping mechanism. Not a great thing to need to do as a sportsman
theshed
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Blues 2023:
1. Tedesco
2. Suali
3. Mitchell
4. Trbo
5. To’o
6. Wighton
7. Cleary
8. Haas
9. Cook
10. Jrbo
11. Murray
12. Crichton
13. Radley
14. Api
15. Yeo
16. Paulo
17. Martin
1. Tedesco
2. Suali
3. Mitchell
4. Trbo
5. To’o
6. Wighton
7. Cleary
8. Haas
9. Cook
10. Jrbo
11. Murray
12. Crichton
13. Radley
14. Api
15. Yeo
16. Paulo
17. Martin
Big Del
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Wolfie
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Thats irrelevant though, It's still legal. He isn't doing anything wrong drinking.
Big Del
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Hmmm ,,,
Wolfie
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He isnt doing anything wrong, he's just stupid. Hmmm all you like. If he wants a drink it's totally legal for him to have a drink just like I can go home today after work and have a drink. For a sportsman to do it to excess isnt smart, it's actually stupid for anyone to do it to excess, but it's not illegal.
Regardless of what some people think about recreational drugs, and as I've said before that's not something I really have any interest in getting into, it's not legal to go home and start getting into meth for example.
Big Del
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The Hmmm was me expressing do I want to debate this ?
Meth is poison .
Up there with alcohol in my opinion .
MDMA and Magic Mushrooms are medicines used by doctors to help heal people`s minds .
Cannabis is now available as medicine prescription .
Amphetamines are prescribed to children !
The war on Drugs is over .
Meth is poison .
Up there with alcohol in my opinion .
MDMA and Magic Mushrooms are medicines used by doctors to help heal people`s minds .
Cannabis is now available as medicine prescription .
Amphetamines are prescribed to children !
The war on Drugs is over .
Wolfie
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But as I said, that's all a totally different argument. Alcohol is a prime example of a substance that it totally fine to consume until you abuse it. That's the same with many things. It's how people choose to use things that's more of a problem than some of the substances themselves. Sadly, we can't make stupidity illegal.
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Doubts aren't evidence but you are sort of claiming John's couldn't have achieved as he did without the 'benefits' of recreational drug use. Yes, drugs can and are used recreationally by tens of millions worldwide and most function as per expectation.
There's no evidence one way or the other but there is evidence of your personal feelings about drugs and your understanding of the effects various illegal drugs and practices produce.
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The things that impressed me most and impressed me because they knew they had to do it and then did it was the work on the Blues back two wingers. In game two To'o made 243m in game three 136m and Tupou 189m to 148m.
Penrith/Blues get the sets off to great starts and then allow their forwards to link and get in great ball- Queensland knew it was an area that went wrong and fixed it.
Shows how good Tedesco is though that his went up and everyone else's went down.
Queensland kicked early and often, had Smith's and Slater's fingerprints all over it. Drove them back and insane at the same time.
Tino was mad, absolutely mad- the spray he gave Burton when he came back from the sin bin was world class mad.
Support play was outstanding and didn't result in much but it takes the pressure off the ball runner and equals a better run for him- Qld 62 v Blues 39.
Simple but again didn't leave guys to bring it up one out and get smashed.
Penrith/Blues get the sets off to great starts and then allow their forwards to link and get in great ball- Queensland knew it was an area that went wrong and fixed it.
Shows how good Tedesco is though that his went up and everyone else's went down.
Queensland kicked early and often, had Smith's and Slater's fingerprints all over it. Drove them back and insane at the same time.
Tino was mad, absolutely mad- the spray he gave Burton when he came back from the sin bin was world class mad.
Support play was outstanding and didn't result in much but it takes the pressure off the ball runner and equals a better run for him- Qld 62 v Blues 39.
Simple but again didn't leave guys to bring it up one out and get smashed.
Browny
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We’re you at the game 1910?
Love hearing little snippets like the Tino spray
Love hearing little snippets like the Tino spray
Wolfie
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Not at all, I'm claiming there is always going to be a question mark hanging over somebody like Johns for example because he's admitted he took an illegal drug to help him cope with pressures of the game amongst other things. We don't know and we never will if it had a positive or even a negative effect on him.
Wolfie
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And just for the record, what are my personal feeling about drugs?
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This is Fox Sports predicted 2023 Blues team
POSSIBLE 2023 NSW BLUES LINE-UP
1. James Tedesco
2. Brian To’o
3. Latrell Mitchell
4. Tom Trbojevic
5. Josh Addo-Carr
6. Matt Burton
7. Nathan Cleary
8. Payne Haas
9. Apisai Koroisau
10. Jake Trbojevic
11. Cameron Murray
12. Haumole Olakau’atu
13. Isaah Yeo
14. Damien Cook
15. Jack Wighton
16. Angus Crichton
17. Junior Paulo
Huge
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Mmm, there isn't a question mark in most people's minds I believe. I think most people understand the difference in the drug types. It's way more likely that the distinction between performance enhancing drugs and party drug/dull the pain, mellow out drugs is well understood and accepted by the majority as just life today.
I'd say the general opinion of John's would be something like this. Elite rugby league player, bit of a larrikin, probably a good bloke, part time wanker (like us all) flawed individual, annoying, biased but knowledgeable TV personality and part of our rough Aussie culture.
His recreational drug use is very likely hardly considered simply because most of us understand it has **** all to do with what we do in our lives when we're 'normal'. I myself have lived my ENTIRE adult life (16+) this way. 48 years of illegality yet fully functional and many life goals achieved. Could it have turned out differently? Not worth wasting a second thinking about it.
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I wrote there's evidence about your personal feelings not a description of your feelings. There's evidence ( based on the assumption posters are being honest when writing) of everyone's personal feelings in their expressed opinions.
Wolfie
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That doesn't tell me much apart from you don't know what my feelings are. I'm still curious what you think this evidence shows. I've spoken first hand about my experience with a legalised drug that's also used illegally by plenty so its not like I've hidden it!
As for Johns, when the bloke himself said he needed drugs to handle pressure, that should tell you it could well have been a factor in parts of his career. But you can't prove they didn't, I can't prove they did. You are guessing as much as me based on what you think.
