Barba vs Boyd

[QUEENSLANDER]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

What was wrong with Milford's form at 5/8? His defence in the front line was actually better than at FB, and they won three in a row with him there (a first for Sticky?).

Guess i was watching different games then. His defence was ordinary at 6. He got run over numerous times. At least at fullback he will only be attempted a few of them a game.

In his that 3 game streak the raiders went on, his tackle stats were
Round 26: Made 17 tackles, missed 4
Round 25: Made 8, missed 3
Round 24: Made 9, missed 1

Hardly good stats.

 

[Splinter]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

You seem to be missing the point tho. Why should milford be 5/8??? his best position is fullback. U dont move milford just coz you have to fit your teat sucking lover boy in the team, but thats exactly what senile old wayne is doing.

If milford is not fullback next year, it will be a fucking crime. He has the potential to be as good as slater / hayne, but if his development is stunted because of a senile old **** needing to play boyd then it will be the biggest mistake. I really hope milford can somehow reneg on his deal because i dont want to see that talent wasted.

I watched him play 5/8 for Canberra and was pleasantly surprised. I think he is better at 5/8.
BTW the way you may think we have 4 or 5 fullbacks up to first grade standard but i dont

 

[Broncoman]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

We don't need to sign Boyd or Packer. Boyd has been hopeless at club level for quite a few years and to play him at fullback ahead of one of the brightest young talents we've seen for a while would be the wrong move. Milford has a great running and passing game and brings genuine X-Factor something we have lacked ever since Lockyer retired. I would play Milford at fullback over Boyd any day. If Boyd signed I would play him on the wing. We've already got good depth in the front row and signing Packer would send the wrong messages and could likely turn some people and some of the public away.

 

[Anonymous person]

Re: Brisbane Broncos scrap co-captains

Name a better prop and winger that would be able to replace Hannant & Hoffman in 2014.

Protip: You can't

The only reason Bennett would even consider Packer is if Hannant has told him he's leaving.

But Boyd's not coming to play wing, he's walking straight in to the starting fullback position, just like some of us expected (and everyone else cried "WB wouldn't do that, he doesn't play favourites" lol).

 

[Splinter]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

LOL. Watch many knights games this year champ? Boyd literally ran away from several bombs because a forward was running through on him. I am not exaggerating. He actually turned and ran from a bomb against the cowboys (i think it was) because gavin cooper was steaming through. At least hoffman puts his body on the line. Even barba does. I would rather sam perrett, or jack wighton, or even mitch moses at fullback over boyd, coz at least they try and put their body on the line. Boyd is a spoilt ****. He has never had to earn his spot since he left the broncos, because he just follows bennett around. Why do you think he does that? Coz he knows he has a fullback spot wherever he goes

You are starting to dribble now.

Lets just leave it at you know better than Bennett and Lockyer who also wants to teach him the finer points of 5/8 play

Good luck supporting someone else next season

 

[Battler]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

Guess i was watching different games then. His defence was ordinary at 6. He got run over numerous times. At least at fullback he will only be attempted a few of them a game.

In his that 3 game streak the raiders went on, his tackle stats were
Round 26: Made 17 tackles, missed 4
Round 25: Made 8, missed 3
Round 24: Made 9, missed 1

Hardly good stats.

His positioning and commitment in defence at FB was deplorable at time, but that won't show up in stats. There have been plenty of worse defenders who have thrived in the halves, he'll be fine if he's given the right guidance.

 

[Danoz Direct]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

I think a spine of:

1. Boyd

6. Milford

7. Hunt

9. Macca

Can definitely work, although I still kind of wish Barba would get a chance under Bennett at a lighter weight and I would not sign Packer as I pretty sure we have some good front rowers coming through the 20's.

 

[theshed]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

Inglis is a supreme athlete and comparing him to inglis is over the top.

But losing your mind because Milford will play 5/8 isn't over the top? I don't even disagree that Milf might be better at fullback but I can garuntee that he will benifit more by having a player like Boyd joining him in the spine than the mess we currently have.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

You are starting to dribble now.

Lets just leave it at you know better than Bennett and Lockyer who also wants to teach him the finer points of 5/8 play

Good luck supporting someone else next season

Thanks. Coz there is no fucking way i will stand by a club that shows no respect to the fans by allowing a senile old has-been to play favourites. He is meant to be looking out for the club, not his love child.

Can you imagine if Toovey moved to Wests and signed B Stewart to play fullback and moved Tedesco to the wing? Or if McFadden moved to Souths and signed Nielsen to play centre and moved Walker to the bench? Its ludicrous, and no club with any shred of dignity would stand by and let it happen. Bennett is not the broncos. He is not bigger than the broncos. Yet the club let him run the place.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

But losing your mind because Milford will play 5/8 isn't over the top? I don't even disagree that Milf might be better at fullback but I can garuntee that he will benifit more by having a player like Boyd joining him in the spine than the mess we currently have.

So you think boyd at fullback and milford being wasted in the halves is better than at least running with milford at 1 and barba at 6? Surely if bennett is so fucking good then he will make barba a superstar at 6? I would rather have milford and barba at their best and leave boyd out

 

[Splinter]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

So you think boyd at fullback and milford being wasted in the halves is better than at least running with milford at 1 and barba at 6? Surely if bennett is so fucking good then he will make barba a superstar at 6? I would rather have milford and barba at their best and leave boyd out

That is your opinion and we have ours so lets move on

 

[broncos4life]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

Fairly certain Milford signed on to us under the provision that he would be playing 5/8 which is what he has always wanted to play

Bingo. The clincher being the five eight mentoring from locky

 

[Porthoz]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

I watched him play 5/8 for Canberra and was pleasantly surprised. I think he is better at 5/8.
BTW the way you may think we have 4 or 5 fullbacks up to first grade standard but i dont

When did you become WB's PR manager?

You've always been very balanced in your opinions, but it appears you're throwing it all out the door for WB's sake...

Whether Milford plays 5/8 or fullback should be decided in the pre-season, likewise Barba and even Boyd (if he comes, and I hope he doesn't).
With Hunt, Barba and Milford at the club, Boyd should get the same treatment as Hoffman: Wing or GTFO!
Besides, getting Boyd to the club (at a ridiculous price too), would essentially be telling our young promising players coming through, to look for opportunities elsewhere. How can this be even considered?

While Boyd is better than Barba under the high ball, that is also the only item where he edges Ben. Boyd is imo, one of the worst defenders in the position in the NRL, can't kick for shit, and only knows one play... the Bennett second man.

With guys like Ofahengaue and Molo coming through, why the **** should we even think about getting that scummy POS Packer?

And before you tell me to hand in my CV to the Broncos, remember this is a forum where we discuss opinions, and also remember that while there is no doubt Bennett is a better coach than I am and probably everyone on BHQ, it doesn't mean he is perfect and doesn't make mistakes.
He has also shown in the past that he can definitely be blind to his protégées, and Boyd is the exponent of that!

 

[theshed]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

So you think boyd at fullback and milford being wasted in the halves is better than at least running with milford at 1 and barba at 6? Surely if bennett is so ****ing good then he will make barba a superstar at 6? I would rather have milford and barba at their best and leave boyd out

I honestly believe that Boyd is a better fullback than Barba is 5/8. I'm a big fan of Barba but our spine is way too inexperienced and it showed big time in our high pressure games.

Obviously we want to hold onto Hunt and none of them can play hooker so our options were:

- Barba play fullback and Milford at 5/8 (which you wouldn't be happy with)
- sign a new experienced half and drop either Milford or Barba, with the winner playing fb (there were no good halves on the market)
- bring in Boyd and drop the lesser 5/8
(Bennett's choice)
- hope Barba can learn how to be a good enough 5/8 by next season, leaving Milf at fb
(My, and apparently your, favoured option but admittedly it's a big risk)

As I said, we agree to some extent, I just don't see Boyds possible arrival as a sign of the apocalypse.

On a related note, and at the risk of sabotaging my own point in your eyes, I would have loved to see Ennis come back to us next year too. The experience him and Boyd would give our spine would be immeasurable.

 

[CaptainHook]

Re: The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

Darius Boyd is an awesome fullback. Hoping this is true.

 

[Splinter]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

When did you become WB's PR manager?

You've always been very balanced in your opinions, but it appears you're throwing it all out the door for WB's sake...

Whether Milford plays 5/8 or fullback should be decided in the pre-season, likewise Barba and even Boyd (if he comes, and I hope he doesn't).
With Hunt, Barba and Milford at the club, Boyd should get the same treatment as Hoffman: Wing or GTFO!
Besides, getting Boyd to the club (at a ridiculous price too), would essentially be telling our young promising players coming through, to look for opportunities elsewhere. How can this be even considered?

While Boyd is better than Barba under the high ball, that is also the only item where he edges Ben. Boyd is imo, one of the worst defenders in the position in the NRL, can't kick for shit, and only knows one play... the Bennett second man.

With guys like Ofahengaue and Molo coming through, why the **** should we even think about getting that scummy POS Packer?

And before you tell me to hand in my CV to the Broncos, remember this is a forum where we discuss opinions, and also remember that while there is no doubt Bennett is a better coach than I am and probably everyone on BHQ, it doesn't mean he is perfect and doesn't make mistakes.
He has also shown in the past that he can definitely be blind to his protégées, and Boyd is the exponent of that!

Haha touche

At least you put your point across eloquently

I do not believe the Broncos should have gone back to WB, i believe we should have moved on and from Hook also. My opinion is Milford will be the better 5/8 option and i do not believe Hoffman or Barba offer more than Boyd at fullback.

That is my balanced opinion whether others think it is right or wrong

BTW if it is a paid post i will take up the offer of WBs PR manager:takdir: I could be convinced that he is the chosen one for a fee

 

[CaptainHook]

Re: Brisbane Broncos scrap co-captains

But Boyd's not coming to play wing, he's walking straight in to the starting fullback position, just like some of us expected (and everyone else cried "WB wouldn't do that, he doesn't play favourites" lol).

Why is it so bad that he's walking into a starting fullback position? It's not like anyone has a mortgage on the spot. Barba, Hoffman and Hodges have been a real mixed bag this year at the back and don't really deserve a walk-up start, imo. I agree with Bennett - Boyd is a better fullback than all of them.

 

[Socnorb]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

BHQ before Bennett actually confirmed he wanted boyd at fullback : "He would never do that. He doesnt play favourites. If he is coming it will be on the wing"

BHQ after bennett confirms he wants boyd at fullback: "Well obviously, hes the best fullback option we have. Bennett is so smart"

The majority of this forum are so ****ing in love with bennett its pathetic. They will deny he would ever do anything bad for the team, but then as soon as he does they say its the best thing for the team. Ridiculous

Boyd is a **** player atm. End of story. Milford is a superstar on the rise. We have seen what he can do at fullback, and seen that it is not as effective at 6.

If you bennett lovers can still argue that Bennett doesnt play favourites after this new info, you are ****ing deluded.

I have never denied that Bennet likes Boyd as a player . Why wouldn't he , the guys a fucking international.
Check his record as a fullback , at his best, he is elite, you can't disregard milford's defence if you want to a top 4 team