OFFICIAL Bellamy extends contract with Melbourne Storm

[tommy]

Look , it's very simple. Melbourne, right out of the horses...... ass, stated they offered Bellamy 3 years from next year. Bennett still has 1 year on his current contract and wants at least another 2. 1 + 2 = 3. If the head office is happy with Bennett, there is no reason they would (seemingly) be desperate to sign Bellamy. And if they are offering him 1.7 or more a year, they are desperate. Personally I can't understand it. I'm not happy with Bennett and believe Bellamy is better coach but from a cost-benefit perspective, I'd rather they stick with Bennett for now. Give him his last year.

But if Bennett is white-anting the club like you suspect he is, wouldn't it be A LOT more beneficial to get rid of him now rather than risk 3 or 4 years of mediocrity because he has gone on a signing spree of no-names and has-beens? Shouldn't we pay an extra 400-500k now rather than risk Bennett succeeding with his plan to throw our club into a half decade of terrible results? Don't you think from a cost-benefit perspective we should be doing anything and everything to run him out of the club? I think you have contradicted yourself here.

 

[Reyter]

But if Bennett is white-anting the club like you suspect he is, wouldn't it be A LOT more beneficial to get rid of him now rather than risk 3 or 4 years of mediocrity because he has gone on a signing spree of no-names and has-beens? Shouldn't we pay an extra 400-500k now rather than risk Bennett succeeding with his plan to throw our club into a half decade of terrible results? Don't you think from a cost-benefit perspective we should be doing anything and everything to run him out of the club? I think you have contradicted yourself here.

Did I say I suspected he is "white-anting the club"? I don't think so. I guess you will have to be more precise about what that means.

As to the rest. I don't know. Good question. It wouldn't be an extra 500k or so but a one time 1.7 mill (approx) and then an extra 500k (approx) a season. As I stated previously, for that money I would be in favor of keeping Bennett for a year to see out his contract and grooming a rookie to take over in 2020.]

In regard to his what I see as bizarre recruitment and retention decisions, a simple solution would be to do what St George have done. Take that out of the coaches hands. If Bennett was so unhappy about it, he could quit and there would go the problem of paying out the final year of his contract.

 

[tommy]

Did I say I suspected he is "white-anting the club"? I don't think so. I guess you will have to be more precise about what that means.

As to the rest. I don't know. Good question. It wouldn't be an extra 500k or so but a one time 1.7 mill (approx) and then an extra 500k (approx) a season. As I stated previously, for that money I would be in favor of keeping Bennett for a year to see out his contract and grooming a rookie to take over in 2020.

It's just a guess but I'm thinking Bennett knows he is on the way out and is trying to sabotage the first few years of Bellamy. Of course it depends on how much money Gillett is on for the next 4 years but even before his injury, there were clear signs he was in decline. And now he is on the books for another 4 years.​

Sabotage/white-ant

Same thing no?

 

[Foordy]

The fact that the club is still looking to sign Bellamy despite that very major obstacle should be a very clear indication the head office isn't happy with Bennett, but no.

actually ... the fact that the club may be looking to sign Bellamy SHOULD be a clear indication that they realise Bennett is 70, likely close to retirement and this may be their only chance to get Bellamy

 

[Sanjit Joseph]

Can someone post the article on courier mail about bellamy pls.

 

[Foordy]

Craig Bellamy says he will not steal the Brisbane Broncos job from Wayne Bennett

Robert Craddock, Chief sportswriter, The Courier-Mail

CRAIG Bellamy sat two metres from Wayne Bennett and declared he would not steal the Broncos coaching job next season.

Rugby league’s great coaching riddle took several intriguing twists on Friday when Brisbane coach Bennett and Melbourne mentor Bellamy spent just under an hour on stage together with interviewer John McCoy at a Toowoomba Turf Club lunch organised by Bennett’s brother Bob.

Almost like two promising gallopers being smuggled on course for a secret early trackwork session, they arrived early and separately through a side entrance to avoid the media.

They met each other privately before the function and refused to speak to media as they walked together into the marquee.

Bennett drew an early round of applause from the crowd of 320 when he declared “categorically, equivocally’’ he would be Broncos coach next year in what would be the final year of his contract.

McCoy then turned to Bellamy who appeared to confirm that, despite being out of contract this year, he would not head to the Broncos next year and squeeze Bennett out of a job.

The Broncos are chasing Bellamy on a four-year deal allegedly starting from 2020 but there has been speculation that if he wanted to come early Bennett could be paid out.

“If I am not coaching Melbourne next year, I will not be coaching the Broncos,’’ said Bellamy, who hopes to make his decision soon but it is unlikely to be in the next few days.

“Wayne has a contract and I have to decide what I will do next year.’’

Asked again by McCoy whether he could coach at Brisbane next season Bellamy said: “No, Wayne is going to coach there. He has a contract for 2019 so there you go.’’

As he said that last sentence Bellamy looked slightly uncomfortable and smiled and looked downwards.

Body language experts may have speculated it was not the most convincing of denials but his words were convincing enough.

Then came another twist.

At a recent press conference Bellamy speculated he may take next season off but he now seems to have gone cold on the idea, meaning if Brisbane are going to recruit him, it looks like next year or bust.

“I spoke to Wayne about this earlier. If you sit out of the game for 12 months the game changes very quickly. It evolves very quickly. If you do that you might lose touch with what is going on in the game so it is probably not the ideal situation,’’ he said.
Bellamy added there would be no chance the Storm would offer him a 12-month extension which would allow him to join the Broncos at the end of next season.

“No-one is going to sign you up for 12 months — it would either be a three-year contract or no contract I would imagine,’’ he said.

Bennett, extracted a laugh from the crowd — and Bellamy — when asked whether the duo could perhaps work as a team next year.

“No,’’ was his emphatic denial.

“It just would not work for is. We worked together for five years and it worked really well but Craig is a top coach in his own right. It is different with young coaches.’’

Bellamy said the five years he had as Bennett’s assistant coach at Brisbane were “as enjoyable as any he has had in football’’ and he relished the clubs premierships in 1998 and 2000.

He conceded that coaching the Storm in the post Cam Smith, Cooper Cronk and Billy Slater era would be challenging for “there would be few players who have ever played as long in those positions.’’

“It would be challenging for everyone at the club — the coach, the CEO and the players,’’ he said.

source: Courier Mail

 

[Morkel]

I don't follow who says what so closely but I know it's been stated on TV, in newspapers, on the radio, on this forum. How many places does it have to be repeated before it officially becomes a rumor?

The planets aren't aligned. Not at all. This is the problem. They are going to have to pay Bennett off or pay Bellamy to do nothing for a year. The fact that the club is still looking to sign Bellamy despite that very major obstacle should be a very clear indication the head office isn't happy with Bennett, but no. A lot of posters here will continue to delude themselves and take umbrage against anyone pointing out what is perfectly obvious.

It's ok. I have a pretty thick skin. Lots of people call me all kinds of nasty things. Sometimes add "just joking" at the end and sometimes not. As soon as I bite back my post is promptly edited but whatever. It is what it is. Something Wayne Bennett seems to have accepted and probably something you should accept as well.

What rumour, specifically. What rumour that has any credibility has been stated that would lead you to believe that the Broncos would be limiting or removing Bennett’s involvement in recruitment and retention? Especially as it’s entirely possible Bennett will not only stay on for next year, but potentially longer.

 

[Number6]

The thing for me is, who’s to say the big 3 would’ve even become the stars that they are without being in the environment they found themselves in to begin with.

Cronk at Roosters. Inglis wasn’t as good at Souths. Lots of confounding factors though.

 

[Stix]

Funny situation... I'll be fucking spewing if the club miss out on signing Bellamy as a long term successor so Bennett can have 1 more season (with Boyd jogging around with his paper thin hammy's)
But I don't want everything that Bennett has done for this club to be tarnished by the club knifing him right at the end...
I also feel that if Bennett is digging in for his last year that it's quite selfish of Wayne, the club have made their position clear on who they want for the future and he is off contract at the end of the season.
Surely Wayne could see how him hanging around for 1 last season could affect the future?
As for the who's the better coach debate,
Wayne has the runs on the board and is one of the greatest coaches in history. But his career is coming to an end, he can't go on forever and Bellamy is the next best thing. The comparisons can continue after Bellamy has 800 games under his belt and delivers us another couple of trophies.

 

[BroncsFan]

Inglis wasn’t as good at Souths.

Absurd comment... wasn't as good yet led Souths to a premiership as one of the most dominant fullbacks in the comp.

 

[Reyter]

Sabotage/white-ant

Same thing no?

Yes. If that is how you define "white-anting". But I never said I thought Bennett was sabotaging or white-anting the club. At least not that I can remember and not what I think. I still think he is putting his own and Boyd's interests before those of the club.

actually ... the fact that the club may be looking to sign Bellamy SHOULD be a clear indication that they realise Bennett is 70, likely close to retirement and this may be their only chance to get Bellamy

Around we go:notsureifserious:. Bennett is on record as saying he wants to continue coaching after this contract finishes, isn't he?

What rumour, specifically. What rumour that has any credibility has been stated that would lead you to believe that the Broncos would be limiting or removing Bennett’s involvement in recruitment and retention? Especially as it’s entirely possible Bennett will not only stay on for next year, but potentially longer.

That the club is after Bellamy isn't a rumour. How and when was he first contacted by the club. How much are they offering him and for how long. Bennett wanted to get a guarantee for 2020 and was rejected. The club is going to pay Bennett out for his final year if Bellamy signs. "Lockeysillegitimatechild" is actually Bennett's illegitimate child. The reason "Dexter" always writes the initials of various people rather than names is because he is dyslexic. Shall I go on?

As for your second question, perhaps you need to read my message more carefully. I never stated the club would be limiting or removing Benentts involvement in recruitment and retention. I said the club could.

 

[Number6]

Absurd comment... wasn't as good yet led Souths to a premiership as one of the most dominant fullbacks in the comp.

1 year with fairytale dust helping. He’s had injuries which is mitigating but still hasn’t been the same. Biggest issue is drifting in and out of games. Don’t see that happening with Bellamy.

 

[tommy]

But I never said I thought Bennett was sabotaging or white-anting the club.

But you did say that. Sabotaging the new coach would pretty much be sabotaging the club wouldn't it?

 

[Number6]

Don’t really understand why a storm are digging in so hard about 3 years or not at all. I appreciate not ideal to have a coach with a a job elsewhere next year but happens all the time with players. Keeping Bellamy for 2019 gives them a year to succession plan and transition for a team who hasn’t played under another coach for 15 years. Not as if other great options out there they would lose unless they want to swap for Bennett. If I was Storm if comes to push then get Kevvie as assistant coach (let him keep origin if he wants) for 1 year then aim for him as head coach 2020 with bonus of learning all the systems.

 

[CaptainHook]

Bellamy will not be coaching the Broncos.

I don't think he wants to leave the Storm. I don't think the Storm really want to lose him.

It's a bit of 'argey bargey'...with the Broncos caught in the middle...

So the Broncos and sponsors are 'apparently' unhappy with Bennett's personal issues and signing Matt Lodge etc...

...and they think the solution is to sack the one bloke who has won six premierships with the one club...

Yeah... That's a great plan....

 

[BroncsFan]

1 year with fairytale dust helping. He’s had injuries which is mitigating but still hasn’t been the same. Biggest issue is drifting in and out of games. Don’t see that happening with Bellamy.

Fucking BS!! You do realise he joined Souths in 2011

2012
Made permanent shift to fullback and Bunnies finished 3rd their best since 2002

2013
Scored 14 tries in 20 matches
Won the Provan-Summons medal
Named at fullback in the premiership's team of the year
Won the RLIF International fullback of the Year
Shortlisted for the RLIF international player of the year

2014
Led bunnies to a premiership in a year where he was a dominant fullback in the comp

2017 is the only year severely hampered by injuries and 2016 he was shifted all over the park as Maguire scrambled for career relevance. Every other year since joining the bunnies he's arguably been in the top 3 fullbacks in the comp.

Do you not recall the form he was in when he scored 3 against us and beat half the team to score a length of the field try... FMD how has he not been one of the best players running around across almost the entirety of his career

 

[Huge]

Yes. If that is how you define "white-anting". But I never said I thought Bennett was sabotaging or white-anting the club. At least not that I can remember and not what I think. I still think he is putting his own and Boyd's interests before those of the club.



Around we go:notsureifserious:. Bennett is on record as saying he wants to continue coaching after this contract finishes, isn't he?



That the club is after Bellamy isn't a rumour. How and when was he first contacted by the club. How much are they offering him and for how long. Bennett wanted to get a guarantee for 2020 and was rejected. The club is going to pay Bennett out for his final year if Bellamy signs. "Lockeysillegitimatechild" is actually Bennett's illegitimate child. The reason "Dexter" always writes the initials of various people rather than names is because he is dyslexic. Shall I go on?

As for your second question, perhaps you need to read my message more carefully. I never stated the club would be limiting or removing Benentts involvement in recruitment and retention. I said the club could.

Where is it on record that WB wants to continue after his contract with the Broncos is fulfilled? Certainly in the interviews etc I've seen he doesn't say he CERTAINLY wants to continue as a coach. From what I remember he merely said he may or may not continue but one this is certain, no ***** telling him what he can or cannot do. No ***** telling him he must retire.

 

[007]

IF Belly wasn't interested in the Broncos three things would have happened:
1) WB/Broncos wouldn't have publicly confirmed talks.
2) Belly would have screwed Melbourne for more money and signed on the line already - isn't it rumoured 1.5-1.7m P.A they are up to now?
3) Belly would have shot down broncos idea in the first place.

Logic tells me this:
1) Storm wouldn't have tabled such a big offer if they weren't worried about losing him
2) The Belly presser wouldn't have occurred for damage control if he was 100% staying on at Melbourne.
3) The emergency Broncos presser wouldn't have happened in such fashion also.
4) Bellys claim he will be too far behind the game in a year is his way of squeezing Broncs, its his only leverage to get a contract on table for next year.

WB's response tells me its a genuine situation. You don't create such a drama, nor feed such a drama with a presser to distract/play/tease the media. WB was upset during the presser also.

WB and Bronocs HQ know they have a crossroad come early, the fact Kevvie left earlier in the year and barely mentioned is a good indication that hes not considered next in line, its also the best indication all the eggs are in one basket, thats thinly woven and overloaded.

I still have no clue if Wayne will walk or not. If there was a quiet deal offered to Bellamy to run recruitment and retention during 2019, its the most ideal situation. He's around the team, can prepare ISC recruits and start planning the 2020 squad - except the fact he will be on 1m+ for such a interim role.