Ben Hunt vs Ash Taylor

[Foordy]

I haven't whined about people picking on Hunt at all. I'm simply saying there is no way to predict the future and that it's stupid to even try.

then why respond to a thread that is asking you to predict the future ....

you're right there is no way to predict the future ... Taylor could end up as good or better than Hunt or he could fade into obsurity like Brett Seymour or Tim Smith only time will tell.

but we are allowed to have an opinion based on what we have seen of him over the years. and IMO he has all the tools to be better than Hunt ... if he has the same dedication then he will become an outstanding halfback

 

[Cult]

Don't tell clubs that Cult, talent scouts will be out of a job.

Did Des get it wrong with Hodko?

Cool, let's ask them who they'd prefer then?

then why respond to a thread that is asking you to predict the future ....

Really? Fucking hell. Continue guessing away guys, I'll keep my opinion about stupid guesses based on one sided arguments to myself next time. No doubt there will be a few more in the future, where you all apparently live..

 

[Foordy]

Really? Fucking hell. Continue guessing away guys, I'll keep my opinion about stupid guesses based on one sided arguments to myself next time. No doubt there will be a few more in the future, where you all apparently live..

have it your way ...

Ben Hunt is the best half back in the NRL and no other young player will ever be as good as he is ... happy now

 

[Alec]

I also believe both players have improvement in them.

You believe a rookie has improvement in him? That's a big call.

 

[Big Pete]

You believe a rookie has improvement in him? That's a big call.

It isn't always the case.

 

[Big Pete]

Cool, let's ask them who they'd prefer then?

People literally attempt to do this...

I'm simply saying there is no way to predict the future and that it's stupid to even try.

for a living.

Heaven forbid fans try their hand.

 

[broncos4life]

Interesting story in last week's edition of Big League.



Pamela Whaley of Big League.

This doesn't make sense, Porthoz assured me that he was already a better organiser than Hunt.

 

[vertigo]

This thread seems like a sensitive topic for some people. Do I sense some insecurity around Hunt's ability to lead the Broncos to a premiership?

:laugh:

George Smiley: He's a fanatic. And the fanatic is always concealing a secret doubt.

 

[broncos4life]

So just so I'm clear, Taylor fanboys can depict that Taylor will be a better half based on what they have seen, yet Cult and others aren't allowed to do that with Hunt?

 

[Cult]

So just so I'm clear, Taylor fanboys can depict that Taylor will be a better half based on what they have seen, yet Cult and others aren't allowed to do that with Hunt?

Bingo, although I didn't predict anything about Hunt either. I just called a few people out for their ridiculous bias when arguing their what will happen in their fabricated future.

 

[Foordy]

Bingo, although I didn't predict anything about Hunt either. I just called a few people out for their ridiculous bias when arguing their what will happen in their fabricated future.

since apparently it is ridiculous to predict how players will turn out ...

lets all stop predicting that Hunt will lead us to a premiership ... until it happens it is just a "fabricated future"

or

McCullough, Milford, Hunt etc will play for Queensland in origin ... until it happens it is just a "fabricated future"

or

this Broncos rookie will have a big NRL career ... until it happens it is just a "fabricated future"

 

[Cult]

since apparently it is ridiculous to predict how players will turn out ...

lets all stop predicting that Hunt will lead us to a premiership ... until it happens it is just a "fabricated future"

or

McCullough, Milford, Hunt etc will play for Queensland in origin ... until it happens it is just a "fabricated future"

or

this Broncos rookie will have a big NRL career ... until it happens it is just a "fabricated future"

Ok but only if whenever we compare two players we base it only on the first 8 games they ever played.

 

[Foordy]

Ok but only if whenever we compare two players we base it only on the first 8 games they ever played.

who's basing their predictions on Taylor solely from his first 8 games.

and FTR, Taylor has shown more from his kicking game in 8 games than Hunt has in over 100 games

 

[Cult]

who's basing their predictions on Taylor solely from his first 8 games.

and FTR, Taylor has shown more from his kicking game in 8 games than Hunt has in over 100 games

And at this point I'm going to kindly direct you to read through the thread. Good night

 

[Porthoz]

Ok but only if whenever we compare two players we base it only on the first 8 games they ever played.

You do know that repeating the same thing ad nauseum won't make it true, right?

Maybe I should break it down in sizeable and easier to swallow chunks:

- Hunt's progress is very unlikely to be steep at this stage. It will be flattening or plateauing, although he may still have some improvement in him.
- Taylor's progress is still very much in its steep phase, since he is still a rookie learning to apply his talent on the big stage.
- We have a baseline called Ben Hunt's whole career.
- We have similar trajectories up to the start of both players FG careers.
- We can compare both players during those trajectories, but cannot do so for the remaining of Hunt's career, as Taylor hasn't got to that point yet.

Now, like most scouts do, you compare the innate talent of the players, their willingness to work hard, their physical attributes, their intelligence and their mental toughness during the trajectories they have in common, and based on how far the older player got, you extrapolate how far the younger one can go.

It's just an exercise of probabilities taking into account a relatively normal career path, because like [MENTION=2065]lynx000[/MENTION] said, anything could happen... from the player crumbling under the pressure, to a possible Earth invasion by hostile alien forces.

 

[Brett]

Running game - Too early to call

Sorry, I stopped reading after this. Simply not true.

 

[broncos4life]

since apparently it is ridiculous to predict how players will turn out ...

lets all stop predicting that Hunt will lead us to a premiership ... until it happens it is just a "fabricated future"

or

McCullough, Milford, Hunt etc will play for Queensland in origin ... until it happens it is just a "fabricated future"

or

this Broncos rookie will have a big NRL career ... until it happens it is just a "fabricated future"

Sounds good, deal!

 

[Brett]

I'm sorry guys, I must have misread. I thought this was a thread about guessing the future based on things that are known, not how good the two players were after 8 games.

I think this thread is just to make shit up to suit an agenda from what I can see. I tried logic and objective statistics, but that failed, lol.