Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy... Oi Oi Oi

[Jeba]

Others made mistakes, but Slater's blunder shoved the momentum NZ's way and they capitalised easily. He threw away the World Cup. Simple as that.

I think the biggest momentum shift was Lockyer losing the ball over the line. I really coundn't see the Kiwis coming back from 16 - 0! Added to that the gift try he gave to Hohaia, a case for Lockyer losing us the game could be just as easily made as for Slater.

I disagree. While that certainly worked in the Kiwis' favour, there wasn't a drastic shift of momentum as a result of that. The Kiwis grabbed a couple of tries, but the Aussies remained in control for the rest of the first half and got another try out of it too.

When Slater tried to be a hero, New Zealand never looked like losing.

 

[Flutterby]

Lol, its easy to blame slater isnt it, u pathetic bunch. how about blaming the ppl that let in the tries lol

That would be Billy - Fullback is the last line of defence and therefore responsible for letting in the tries.

 

[Coxy]

In fact, looking at the highlights again and Benji's bombed try in the opening minutes, it was noticeable how far out of position Slater was. In fact, he was almost directly behind the ruck (which was on the right side of the field) and on the try line, so was no chance to defend a grubber kick in goal. In fact, when he tried to turn and chase he had to go around the posts, hence being nowhere near it.

Very poor fullback play.

 

[Flutterby]

Comes down to the age old argument. Billy Slater can win you games, but he can also cost you them with his silly mistakes.

And Karmichael Hunt can win you games /sentence

 

[Flutterby]

Funny how things work out really, if Slater had of side stepped the side line it was try under the posts. Mind set really, if he wasn't thinking "hey, the crowd will go nuts if I do this" he'd probably just hit it up and the game goes on.

He was thinking "I'm going to be a show-off glory-hor and look like a hero" and it back-fired on him and he ends up a zero.

Although in retrospect - he obviously wasn't thinking at all.

 

[Alec]

Karmichael might not be able to win you as many games as Slater based on individual talent, but he can set up others to win the game a hellavalot more than Slater can. The poor passes that Slater sometimes makes - Hunt wouldn't make them. icon_thumbs_u

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Lol, its easy to blame slater isnt it, u pathetic bunch. how about blaming the ppl that let in the tries lol

That would be Billy - Fullback is the last line of defence and therefore responsible for letting in the tries.

Haha, can we put this quote in the pool room?

Every try, ever scored, was the defending fullbacks fault.

FFS, grow a brain

 

[The Brizz]

Hunt's passing game is as good as Slater's not better. I had plenty of people on here agree with me that Hunt's passing is average at best often throwing to ground or above eye level. Lets also not forget that Lockyer made a pathetic attempt at tackle to gift Hoihioia(?) his first try, do we crucify Lockyer for that.....of course not he is a Bronco but Slater and Monaghan aren't so lets flame away.

 

[Jeba]

Hunt's passing game is as good as Slater's not better. I had plenty of people on here agree with me that Hunt's passing is average at best often throwing to ground or above eye level. Lets also not forget that Lockyer made a pathetic attempt at tackle to gift Hoihioia(?) his first try, do we crucify Lockyer for that.....of course not he is a Bronco but Slater and Monaghan aren't so lets flame away.

No way is Slater's passing game as good as Hunt's. Hunt's cut-out ball to wingers close to the line is awesome.

As for Lockyer's missed tackle, well that's just a bad error which comes part and parcel with Rugby League. All players miss tackles (apart from Steve Price), but not all players make stupid decisions, try to be a hero and throw away the World Cup in the process.

 

[The Brizz]

Season 2008
Hunt: Try Assists 12, Line break assists 11
Slater: Try Assists 14, Line break Assists 14

But Slater can't pass...........

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Season 2008
Hunt: Try Assists 12, Line break assists 11
Slater: Try Assists 14, Line break Assists 14

But Slater can't pass...........

And slater threw the cutout to Williams for his try. Ppl have selective memories lol. After game 1 origin, i didnt even know hunt had arms, he passed that much

 

[The Brizz]

Exactly, people here think anyone in a Broncos jersey is the best and that no one could possibly be better than them. Slater is better than Hunt at many things and as good as him at just about everything else.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

They can love hunt all they want, slater's 2008 is made up of origin spots, australian spots, fullback of the year, player of the year, a minor premiership, leading try scorer in the RLWC and with more to come.

Hunt however, has done well to lose the possibility of captaincy at broncos, been involved in police investigations, lost fullback for qld, lost fullback for aus, seen his mates dongs and didnt feature in the final.

This is fun

In fact, i went to karmichaels house the other day (he asked me to record a video on my mobile but i declined). He showed me his 2008 trophy cabinet

Oh Noes!

 

[Jeba]

Exactly, people here think anyone in a Broncos jersey is the best and that no one could possibly be better than them. Slater is better than Hunt at many things and as good as him at just about everything else.

Then we've got you idiots who think anyone in a Broncos jersey is NOT the best and everytime there is a 50/50 argument you support the non-Broncos side of the pineapple EVERY FRIGGEN TIME. Look at the way you tools carried on about Ennis's on-field niggle, yet Queenslander's answer to Cameron Smith's grapple tackle was that we all had sour grapes, and I didn't hear any complaints from FCB after Slater's attempted kicks in the face (one of which he landed back in 2006) and the crap he carried on with after he scored the length of field try against England.

Langer v Johns - of course FCB is going to support Johns, he doesn't play for the Broncos.

Oh and of course the Broncos didn't legitimately win the 2006 Grand Final. The ref made sure they did :roll: It's not as if Melbourne were simply outplayed on the night.

Hunt could win the Best Dressed Male at the Queensland Derby and you'd both be saying Slater should've won if he showed up in a pink-Nashy-style suit. (no offence to Nashy, just trying to highlight how moronic a few of the forum members are).

You both need to look at the arguments closely and you'll see that most people here acknowledge that Slater has had a better year than Hunt and that people simply would prefer Hunt in their side. And all for very legitimate reasons, and regardless of who is the better overall player.

I am all for having different opinions on this forum, because afterall if we all agreed it would be boring as. But I am sick of this shit about most of us just being bias Broncos fans because you two (and a few others on here as well) are on the other end of the scale in that you just try to look cool by saying you're Broncos fans but always supporting the opposition everytime there is a 50-50 call.

 

[Alec]

Hunt forever, Slater never!

 

[The Brizz]

Johns was a better all around player than Langer and the vast majority of experts agree with this view, I love Langer and I love the Broncos I just see the cold hard fact that Johns was better and is consistently acknowledged by fans, players and experts alike as the better of the two.

I stated at the time that Slater was smart to do the kick until they made it illegal because he was saving tries, I also said i hated the practice and the sooner it be banned the better.

Hunt v Slater is not 50/50 it is not even close to that Slater has proven to be the better player and his accolades and selections prove this point.

Ennis, I hate the guy because I hate divers and he gives away too many penalties (something about Hodges that I hate) I stated a million times regardless of how good he is (which I acknowledged that Ennis is) I don't want players of that character at the club. Rugby League is a man's game Ennis makes a mockery of this. Didn't you all feel embarrassed when you all cried and feared for your like when he got chicken winged and got caught winking, "dirty storm, he was in agony" once again the Bronco glasses fail so many here, he was being a cat and proved it a couple more times later in the season.

Jeb, you seem to think because people like me and QLD'er have the ability to acknowledge the quality of players beyond the confines of Red Hill makes us traitors or supporters not to the same degree as you. You are wrong, it makes us better supporters, people who can see how good an opponent is and don't just pander to our own players regardless of the fact that our team was not good enough this year are good supporters. We keep a balance and don't go on with bulls##t about how great they all are and how they are all the best when in fact they are not we have the best 5/8th (in attack only) and maybe the best centre in the game outside of that the team is full of good players some better than others. I will never give out praise for the sake of praise just because a guy is in a Broncos jersey.

 

[pennywisealfie]

Hunt could win the Best Dressed Male at the Queensland Derby and you'd both be saying Slater should've won if he showed up in a pink-Nashy-style suit.

oh burrrrrrn! :P

 

[Nashy]

I'd vote for him.