Billy Slater should be our next coach and the sooner the better.

With Kevvie I think he is going ok and his biggest problem is team selections. Lets not forget that he is also still finding his feet as an NRL coach so hopefully this will improve.

With Ryan James retiring and Kennedy moving on to Superleague there's two very average forwards that won't tie up any salary cap space. I don't know that replacing them with two young kids is the way to go unless one of them is bashing the door down for selection in a lower grade otherwise we end up back at 2020 where older forwards were monstering our young players.

I think we need to keep on the look out for a forward with 50+ minimum NRL games under their belts like Jensen etc and slowly bring some of the young forwards through.
 
Oh and before I forget a decent 9 that could play 80 minutes wouldn't hurt. :happy:
 
Nerd said:
With Kevvie I think he is going ok and his biggest problem is team selections. Lets not forget that he is also still finding his feet as an NRL coach so hopefully this will improve.

With Ryan James retiring and Kennedy moving on to Superleague there's two very average forwards that won't tie up any salary cap space. I don't know that replacing them with two young kids is the way to go unless one of them is bashing the door down for selection in a lower grade otherwise we end up back at 2020 where older forwards were monstering our young players.

I think we need to keep on the look out for a forward with 50+ minimum NRL games under their belts like Jensen etc and slowly bring some of the young forwards through.
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Piakura and Willison are raring to go.
 
McHunt said:
Piakura and Willison are raring to go.
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I hope so. I'm a big fan of young forwards getting their shit together in lower grades before being thrust into the NRL. In previous years if one of our younger forwards was being monstered we had older forwards who could take them under their proverbial wing and help them through. Flegler and Carrigan could grow into this role but they themselves are probably another 50 games away from having enough experience to do this.

I believe front rowers especially don't really start coming into their own until they get around their mid 20's or the 100 game mark.
 
Nerd said:
I hope so. I'm a big fan of young forwards getting their shit together in lower grades before being thrust into the NRL. In previous years if one of our younger forwards was being monstered we had older forwards who could take them under their proverbial wing and help them through. Flegler and Carrigan could grow into this role but they themselves are probably another 50 games away from having enough experience to do this.

I believe front rowers especially don't really start coming into their own until they get around their mid 20's or the 100 game mark.
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We've quickly progressed from the fear of losing Payne to the fear of being stuck with his bill.
 
Im sure Slater has one eye on the Storm job in a few years anyway...

KW is safe for now, and he should be given next season too.

No -one is immune from critiscm for "that" performance though..

But the club has made massive strides this year. Dont let one regular season game blind you from this fact.

Nor be blind to the fact that Walters is one of those reasons why.

But yeh, i accept there is a ceiling on just how far he can take this team, how well he can plan and coach this team against the truly elite ones, when it matters...
 
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Cleary spent 3/4 of his career to date accepting scraping into the finals if you take out his current stint at the Panthers, his career winning percentage is 47.46% ... that's the definition of scrapping into the finals

hell over his entire career his probably missed the finals more times than he's made it

and for Bellamy, it's pretty easy to make finals when you're cheating (like he was for 5 years)

if you think you can go from where Seibold had us to the a premiership heavyweight in such a short amount of time, then you're unrealistic, delusional, a fool or just hope we lose so you have something to whinge about ... maybe all of the above
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If you’re going to reply, at least read what I said. Because that response shows you didn’t.
 
Slater may well end up being a good club coach IF he ever wants to go down that path (which I doubt), but one origin series isn't enough to prove anything.

I'd be inclined to bring in some of the names that have made Meninga and Slater look good in some capacity with the club (as an assistant coach or strategy coach or something else where they can be paid good money and be involved without the pressure and spotlight of the top job) - Michael Hagan, Neil Henry, Josh Hannay.

I think (for now) Kevvie can handle being the coach, but he needs some support staff around him to supplement what he brings to the table and strengthens some of his weaknesses.
 
Foordy said:
most successful State of Origin coach in history

sucked as an NRL coach. they are two very different ball games.

Hell, Craig Bellamy is another example. one of the best NRL coaches of all time failed as an Origin coach
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He won 54% of his game and they played finals 3/5 years- it's wrong when people say he was a terrible club coach.

Meninga had to deal with a huge transitional time for the Raiders too.
 
Slater is a Melbourne suck and he delighted in thrashing us. I wouldn't want any of them near our coaching ranks. I'd happily tell him to go and get fucked and don't even think about earning a dollar from the club that he and his cheating team regularly fucked over.
 
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