NEWS Brisbane to Bennett: it's not you, it's us

McHunt

 

[mitch222]

Failed is a stretch. They're on their way to third consecutive top 4 spot and are head and shoulders the third best team (lol). Running into these two teams that are currently at the top and unable to unseat them doesnt make him a failure - the panthers are doing something that is fucking freakish and probably wont be replicated for a long time and the storm are just the storm.

He was bought in to get them to the next level. The next level is a premiership. He isnt all about rebuilding clubs from the ground up. He is about winning comps. If he doesnt win a comp this year, were they any better off with him as coach compared to Seibold?

 

[broncsgoat]

He was bought in to get them to the next level. The next level is a premiership. He isnt all about rebuilding clubs from the ground up. He is about winning comps. If he doesnt win a comp this year, were they any better off with him as coach compared to Seibold?

Look at where we are after Seibold and answer that question mate.

 

[mitch222]

Look at where we are after Seibold and answer that question mate.

This isnt a question for what Seibold did at the broncos, more about how Seibold was going at the rabbits compared to where Bennett has got them too. Seibold left him with a top 4 finish the prior year. Bennetts normally seen as the finishing touches to a title and souths would have been hoping that was the case as well and it hasnt panned out.

 

[Cult]

If I'm going to be brutally honest, Bennett has failed at souths in his time. When he took that team over they were more then primed for a grand final tilt and he has fallen in the semis the last 2 years and I really cant see souths unseating the Storm or the panthers either this year. He has had Walker, Reynolds, Cook and Mitchell all in their prime with a more than capable backline and decent forward pack and hasn't looked like threatening to run away with a title.
Speak what you may with regards to our 2015 run, beside the very handily additions of Blair and Boyd on his watch, the team was pretty much Hooks mould in the lead up to that run.

****, I wish we were failing like the Rabbits.

 

[Cult]

Look at where South’s are compared to when AS was there. No change, except for nullifying Cook and Murray.

He got a worse team to about the same place. Cook gained a kicking game as well. It's almost like teams learn to read players better the more they play. I know BHQ doesn't like to admit that Bennett is doing a good job these days but these are really dishonest takes.

 

[Sproj]

Look at where South’s are compared to when AS was there. No change, except for nullifying Cook and Murray.

I think this is pretty hard to argue to be honest. Which players are better since Bennett got there? I'd argue strongly Gagai is one, Tatola likely another. Other than those two, maybe Mitchell but he was already a gun at the Chickens.

Cook has definitely gone backwards, Murray is not as threatening, Su'A too seems to have at best stagnated. and everyone else seems the same.

 

[Sproj]

He got a worse team to about the same place. Cook gained a kicking game as well. It's almost like teams learn to read players better the more they play. I know BHQ doesn't like to admit that Bennett is doing a good job these days but these are really dishonest takes.

Failed is not the right word and there is no doubt whatsoever our club would be in a FAR better state if Bennett stayed instead of getting Seibold in. The fact remains that Bennett has one one premiership since leaving Brisbane and while that was a fantastic achievement with what he did with such a limited side, it was a long time ago now.

In that time, we've heard endlessly about how the Storm will fail once the big three are gone and yet they haven't. Despite generational change at the Storm, Bellamy has kept that side at the same pace as this 'once in a generation' Panthers side and in fact BEAT them in a GF.

Bennett is not the best coach in the league anymore and hasn't been for a long time. Every team he has gone to since St George has ended up worse by the time he has left and the Rabbits look like they may well be the same next year.

 

[BRC088]

Bennett's job is to get the team into the 8 to satisfy the sponsors, anything beyond that is gravy.

 

[Morkel]

Failed is a stretch. They're on their way to third consecutive top 4 spot and are head and shoulders the third best team (lol). Running into these two teams that are currently at the top and unable to unseat them doesnt make him a failure - the panthers are doing something that is fucking freakish and probably wont be replicated for a long time and the storm are just the storm.

To be fair, Souths' two best players, Inglis and Burgess, were lost from the squad, so the fact that he hasn't actually gone backwards is proof for me that he has had a positive effect.

 

[Sproj]

To be fair, Souths' two best players, Inglis and Burgess, were lost from the squad, so the fact that he hasn't actually gone backwards is proof for me that he has had a positive effect.

Were either Inglis or Burgess much good in Seibold's season there?

 

[Morkel]

Were either Inglis or Burgess much good in Seibold's season there?

I don't recall in enough detail, but for sure Burgess' aggression and ability to dominate others has been well documented since.

 

[Sproj]

I don't recall in enough detail, but for sure Burgess' aggression and ability to dominate others has been well documented since.

Yeah I don't recall either. Burgess might have been good but I'm pretty sure Inglis was basically a walking injury by that point.

 

[broncsgoat]

To be fair, Souths' two best players, Inglis and Burgess, were lost from the squad, so the fact that he hasn't actually gone backwards is proof for me that he has had a positive effect.

Yeah. And those players left, and Bennett was able to attract like for like players in their position.

I get we have fallen off a cliff since Bennett left but how can people put that on him? There was an article about our round 1 team for next year and saying that only 1 player (Staggs) is likely to remain from Wayne’s last team.

 

[BroncsFan]

Were either Inglis or Burgess much good in Seibold's season there?

Pretty sure Inglis was playing mostly left center, because he was really starting to breakdown at that point

Believe Seibold was mostly having to use Johnston at fb.

Cant recall on Burgess.... I think he was reducing his minutes, and chopped and changed between having him on an edge and in the middle, but he was starting to lose his ability for sustained aggression over 80 minutes

 

[Morkel]

Yeah. And those players left, and Bennett was able to attract like for like players in their position.

I get we have fallen off a cliff since Bennett left but how can people put that on him? There was an article about our round 1 team for next year and saying that only 1 player (Staggs) is likely to remain from Wayne’s last team.

Even if it was argued Mitchell is on pay with Inglis, I can't see anyone in their pack that they recruited that is remotely close to Burgess. Their pack is pretty frikken ordinary, made of mostly toilers. Arrow has been invisible (even when not injured) and can't make the starting team, Su'a is not even close.

 

[broncsgoat]

Even if it was argued Mitchell is on pay with Inglis, I can't see anyone in their pack that they recruited that is remotely close to Burgess. Their pack is pretty frikken ordinary, made of mostly toilers. Arrow has been invisible (even when not injured) and can't make the starting team, Su'a is not even close.

Honestly I haven't watched but yeah I meant Mitchell for Inglis and Arrow for Surgess.

If their pack is ordinary they're doing well to be beating everyone outside of the Storm & the Riff, must be some decent coaching going on.

 

[Morkel]

Honestly I haven't watched but yeah I meant Mitchell for Inglis and Arrow for Surgess.

If their pack is ordinary they're doing well to be beating everyone outside of the Storm & the Riff, must be some decent coaching going on.

That's kind of what I'm implying.

Also, disappointed no one took the bait on my Burgess comment.

 

[broncsgoat]

I’m not sure, but wasn’t Burgess out/injured for a lot of that year?

Didn’t we also have a lot of injury issues with pies as coach?