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He plead guilty, and even struck a plea deal. That's about as voluntary as it gets.
To the criminal charges, yes. But to the civil case?
He plead guilty, and even struck a plea deal. That's about as voluntary as it gets.
He plead guilty, and even struck a plea deal. That's about as voluntary as it gets.
We sign Lodge on a tiny deal and yep, the usual clown comes out and accuses us of rorting. The Roosters come out and sign the Australian halfback on top of a massive purchase in the NSW fullback earlier in the year and nothing but crickets from the same fool.
I agree with Rothfield, there is something fishy. How does Newcastle still have money to throw around crazily like that?
Ah yes, that's true. I wonder whether the fact he offered a settlement to the victims counts as some kind of submission (my guess would be no).To the criminal charges, yes. But to the civil case?
Is that your considered legal opinion? What points would you contest, that the judgement was final and conclusive, the parties were identified, the judgement was for a fixed debt, or that the US court appropriately exercised its jurisdiction?No court in Australia is going to make him pay 1.5 mill in civil damages. I would think his barrister is currently working to completely sqaush this monetary judgement in Australia.
Ah yes, that's true. I wonder whether the fact he offered a settlement to the victims counts as some kind of submission (my guess would be no).
I call bullshit on the knights deal I just can’t see how no one knew about it and it only come out after we already signed him.
Plus talk about being able to sign Hayne, SBW, and Chricton. They already have two rep props in their forward pack, a million dollar FB, Keary on an upgraded deal, the nsw captain in the second row, a premiership winning HB (who they claim they can play off the bench), a hooker who has played for aus, multiple juniors on big coin, tupou on overs, Fergo on an upgraded deal, Gordon on the wing...
Never mind all of that, they let go of a couple of blokes on 100-300k!
EDIT: Every single junior they sign from another club who's talented they have to pay overs for. Jniko for example.
I liked the "cash-loaded Knights" comment. Are they? Sure, they got to write off Mullen's contract value and Gagai signed elsewhere, but have signed Ponga, Moga, Ese'Ese, Guerra, Heighington, SKD, and Lillyman among others, all on what appear to be massive overs in order to entice them there. If that's their recruitment strategy then surely they'll run out of cap room soon.
I call bullshit on the knights deal I just can’t see how no one knew about it and it only come out after we already signed him.
I always thought this was the case. It renders the Roosters '650k under last year' justification as total and utter bullshit.They still have a long way to go, you have to spend 95% of your cap which is 8.93 million. They're no where near that with those players.
I always thought this was the case. It renders the Roosters '650k under last year' justification as total and utter bullshit.
You're not wrong but a few things to note
- TKO supposedly on <$200k (which is absurd, easily a $500k player and the next closest lock to tmol there is)
- Aubusson apparently on massive unders
- Liu likely on massive unders
- Gordon took a pay cut likely because he knew the team would be competitive next year and it looks good if he's starting for them
- Their next centre is manu (who'd be on cheap)
- fergo was being low balled likely because roosters didn't want him, but the origin stuff came out and all of a sudden his options dried up and he took the roosters deal.
- Tupou was also being low balled and was being pushed out until he had a big form change half way through the year. His options were limited most of the year (outside of knights) so probably took some unders to stay with a competitive team.
- Latrell was a high price junior but I think he has yet to be upgraded since starting NRL??
- JWH is hardly a regular rep player and is probably one of the few on overs. I'd say roosters will look to rectify this next contract
- Tetevano was their prop depth and on minimal coin
- Keary unsure what he signed for but apparently won't accept the extension put forward due to it being unders. Potential candidate for getting pushed
- Guerra was a regular origin player when last signed. I think he was pushed out but was probably on $400-500k
- SKD rightly or wrongly was on pretty decent coin starting about 5yrs ago so probably still on $300-400k
- Evans was given a decent upgrade his last deal
That's a large chunk of their team covered and a couple things become apparent with their approach:
- if you're depth or surplus they will just low ball in the hope of keeping them tupou, Keary, fergo
- They are willing to dry up your first grade chances to limit your options (Guerra). I think they're doing similar to TKO, Manu, Liu, etc. by limiting their starting chances and/or time on the field. To lock them in long term
- They put their promising juniors on extended contracts to control cap (Latrell, Manu and even Jnik)
- if you're not earning your cash they'll cut and run Evans, SKD, Jnik, Guerra, Hastings, Napa, etc. Knowing you will go to another team if you're not getting a game or offered unders
- they have a plan when it comes to depth signings. Tetevano provides a hard nosed prop without breaking the bank. Lots of players on unders that make up their 17 each week aubo, liu and TKO
- their depth is very limited given Manu is next drop for outside backs and juniors are next inline in the forwards.
It all looks dodgey as hell from the outside but they are just playing the game. I'd imagine it would be an awful place to be when you're on the outer and being pushed or offered unders.
Have to remember this team was also battling for the spoon 2 years ago without Pearce. They probably used that time to lock guys in on the cheap.
Nearly as fishy as his maths. Somehow 400,000+500,000+500,000=1,500,000?