Ennis For The Exit

[Guest]

We already had Michaels who is a great centre and we didn't need Folau like we need Ennis.

First of all, Michaels is not a GREAT centre, he's a good, solid player. Falou is a world-class centre already who has so much upside it's ridiculous and the Broncos would have been stupid not to go after him with all guns blazing as they did.

Ennis is a good player who has been in wonderful form lately, however he's not a world-class player and we do have other options at hooker so I'm sorry but I fail to see how this is the end of the world. I'd love to keep him too but hey, that's modern day sport.

 

[Foordy]

If we lose Ennis what other Hooking options do we have (apart from PJ Marsh)?

 

[broncos85]

But Berro was a freak!!

 

[Bucking Beads]

We already had Michaels who is a great centre and we didn't need Folau like we need Ennis.

First of all, Michaels is not a GREAT centre, he's a good, solid player. Falou is a world-class centre already who has so much upside it's ridiculous and the Broncos would have been stupid not to go after him with all guns blazing as they did.

Ennis is a good player who has been in wonderful form lately, however he's not a world-class player and we do have other options at hooker so I'm sorry but I fail to see how this is the end of the world. I'd love to keep him too but hey, that's modern day sport.

Folau has played one test and is in his second season of first grade I wouldn't call him a world class centre yet. Lets just see how he goes in Origin. I rate Folau very highly but IMO we needed Ennis in the side much more than we needed Folau.

 

[Andyman]

I've worked it out:

Folau will be our starting hooker next year! icon_thumbs_u

 

[Emma]

This whole thread has shades of the thread that was happening last year when we lost Petero. It seemed then that some predicted it would be the end of the broncos, yet what do you know, there have been forwards more than ready and willing to step up into the position left by Petero and are going great guns.

The funniest thing is that no one actually knows if this is fact yet, but some are already up in arms and wanting Bruno sacked. How about everyone calms down until we know if this is true or not. If it is true, I'm not going to slit my wrists over it. It does make me laugh however that so many have called for Ennis' head when he hasn't been in form, but now that he's playing alright, it's the end of the world if we lose him. What a fickle lot some of you are - I'm sure once he has a couple of bad games again (which is probably inevitable, it happens to everyone) the tune will change yet again.

Sure it would be great to keep everyone, but it ain't going to happen. If I had to choose between Boyd, Michaels, Kemp or the like and Folau, I'd be chasing Folau with gusto as well.

 

[ethos]

This whole thread has shades of the thread that was happening last year when we lost Petero.

Petero was/is at the end of his career though.

Ennis is at his peak at the moment and still has another 7+ years in the game.

I'd be very disappointed if we lost him.

 

[Emma]

I understand that ethos, but people predicted pretty much the same thing then with the departure of Petero as they are now if Ennis was to leave. My point is that someone stepped into Petero's shoes then, who's to say that someone won't do the same IF Ennis leaves.

I do just find it so amusing how the worm has turned in regards to Ennis though.

 

[GCBRONCO]

This whole thread has shades of the thread that was happening last year when we lost Petero.

Petero was/is at the end of his career though.

Ennis is at his peak at the moment and still has another 7+ years in the game.

I'd be very disappointed if we lost him.

Ennis is hardly at his peak, infact I think his played better and more consistant football at his prior clubs, by and large his been inconsistant when he has been on the field and spent a large amount of time off the field through injury(not his fault but it does have an impact on when it comes to decisionmaking on retaining players), don't get me wrong I think his playing better in recent games but looking at his time here overall I'm not convinced his playing as vital football to get into a bidding war over as being made out, not with Ben Hunt and Tom Butterfield coming up through the ranks who could be developed as a longterm options and PJ Marsh as the short term option.

 

[Kaz]

If we lose Ennis what other Hooking options do we have (apart from PJ Marsh)?

Tom Butterfield.from the U20's.

Maybe we can blood in in 1st grade.

 

[666]

I think people are forgetting Buttgerfield coming through.

Wont be long before he is ready to come into first grade. And if ennis stays do we run the risk of losing this young player who shows so much promise?

 

[Major JW Hochstetter]

I understand that ethos, but people predicted pretty much the same thing then with the departure of Petero as they are now if Ennis was to leave. My point is that someone stepped into Petero's shoes then, who's to say that someone won't do the same IF Ennis leaves.

I do just find it so amusing how the worm has turned in regards to Ennis though.

As hard as it would be to accept Ennis' departure, particularly after we've finally been able to enjoy watching him play in top form after a couple of years of injury and position switches, I agree with Emma completely. Also remembering that it was only a matter of a month ago when Ennis-bashing was still common place and many were (probably rightly) singing PJ Marsh's praises as our saviour after the Cowboys game.

The fact that Ennis may sign with another club whilst he's in a purple patch is surely stirring emotions a little more than usual. I'd really hate to lose him but I don't believe it'll be such a massive crisis.

I also can't understand the consistent Bruno bashing with regards to player contracts. Despite all the criticism he's copped in the past with particular negotiations, we've always ended up with a very competitive squad (as our record shows) and the tough decisions have been made to the club's benefit (ie. Civoniceva).

Nobody here knows what our cap situation is and exactly what the club has planned for the future which they may need to start preparing for now. As has been said many times in the past, the Broncos are the very best in the business with their managment of player contracts and have rarely let us down despite the criticism they cop. There would be nothing going on at the moment that they haven't seen coming for a long time or haven't got a contingency plan in place for.

I have no reason to be critical of anything they need to do this year (within reason of course!), and if Ennis is let go, i'll reserve my judgment until next year.

 

[Guest]

I also can't understand the consistent Bruno bashing with regards to player contracts. Despite all the criticism he's copped in the past with particular negotiations, we've always ended up with a very competitive squad (as our record shows) and the tough decisions have been made to the club's benefit (ie. Civoniceva).

This is something I struggle to understand too. Was it the same in Shane Edwards' day? I think if half the poeple who post here were CEO for a day they would run the Broncos into the ground...

 

[Kris]

Man, it'd suck big time if it's true. Ennis has been going great guns for us and is one of the reasons why we are doing so well. We've had a few hookers in the past few seasons, but Ennis has been the best one out of all of them.

 

[Kee]

Maybe we could say the same about the coaching that goes on here and what is said about WB.He gets enough bagging but returns results.

A lot of tough decisions were made by Bennett remember.At least he was copping the flack.Bruno didnt put his hand up and say that he had made the hard calls.Nor did Edwards when Bennett let Wally go and half of Brisbane turned on him and still hate him for it.

Can't compare Petero and Ennis.Civo was like 'family'.It hurt to see him go and it still hurts me to see him in the Panthers colors.

I wasn't an Ennis fan but I do see that he is in the specialist role he is made for and is doing a good job for the short time he has been there.How long since we have had a specialist hooker?Priddis!

Won't cut my wrists either if he goes but do think we have if reported correctly put too much into one player when we have great players sitting at the door and on the field we may lose.

Fans are fickle.Very fickle.Just have to read the comments on here to see that.We all have an input at some stage for which we are entitled.
I for one don't like Bruno as I reckon he is weak.

 

[Emma]

Can't compare Petero and Ennis.Civo was like 'family'.It hurt to see him go and it still hurts me to see him in the Panthers colors.

I'm not comparing the situation they found themselves in, or the players themselves. I'm comparing the reactions of people on this forum. Many thought that seeing Petero leave would have us struggling to win games. That simply isn't the case and I'm just pointing out that Ennis leaving may be the same as that.

 

[Coxy]

I also can't understand the consistent Bruno bashing with regards to player contracts. Despite all the criticism he's copped in the past with particular negotiations, we've always ended up with a very competitive squad (as our record shows) and the tough decisions have been made to the club's benefit (ie. Civoniceva).

This is something I struggle to understand too. Was it the same in Shane Edwards' day? I think if half the poeple who post here were CEO for a day they would run the Broncos into the ground...

Back then it was Wayne Bennett making the decisions about hiring and firing. There were voodoo dolls, efigies burnt and spells cast against Wayne Bennett when he sacked Wally Lewis all those years ago.

And there was great disbelief when the Broncos had to let Trevor Gillmeister go after the 1993 season.

Shit happens.

 

[schmix]

I also can't understand the consistent Bruno bashing with regards to player contracts. Despite all the criticism he's copped in the past with particular negotiations, we've always ended up with a very competitive squad (as our record shows) and the tough decisions have been made to the club's benefit (ie. Civoniceva).

I can't speak for anyone else, but this is the first time I've criticised Bruno regarding contracts. I think he does the best he can 95% of the time. I also very rarely question Bennett's decisions. These guys know a lot more about business and football than I do, so I am happy to refer to them on those matters. This decision, if indeed true, I do question.

I admitted I hadn't seen our young guys play, so if Butterfield is as good as some people seem to think then I have no problem with PJ as a full-time interim for a couple of years. It's just frustrating to have so much "potential" in the hooking department for 10 years, but never see it realised until now, then have the guy disappear.

I also admit to feeling some animosity towards Bruno in the fallout of the Bennett saga, so that may have clouded my judgement.