PRE-GAME Finals Week 1 - Eels vs Broncos

pagey

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I don’t understand the enjoyment part. I haven’t commented on his enjoyment.

Are you even sure his form is NRL worthy? Just selecting random guys in random positions you haven’t watched play just doesn’t seem sound to me.

Too much disruption to carry a back that can only play seven. He’s half or not there because his 14 form isn’t up to it yet.

He got 30 minutes last week.
No I'm stating that he doesn't enjoy it.
I have watched him play and he's a 7 in my eyes and he will play next year at some point, so I don't understand your random position remark.
I did say to play half didn't I? Seggy is 14 and turpin can go to 9 aswell.
Shiba didn't play one second of footy last week, so how is it disruptive if paix takes his spot?
 

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Anyway, the boys looked sharp at training today.

Lots of time spent on stopping offloads in tackles during opposed session.

Tons of talk and enthusiasm out there, in fact a little too much enthusiasm with 'Webcke' Flegler landed a jab on Farnsworths chin !! Much laughter from teammates but Flegler was pretty firey.

Defensive drills right in front of me with Staggs and Isaako looking good....reading things well and talking heaps. Conversely, Oates and Glenn stuffed things up a bit....Oates did to be precise. He really doesnt seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed

Forwards looked very impressive .. lots of 'unders' balls to Fifita coming back against the grain. The kid is indeed a freakin monster !! Macca working on running out of dummyhalf and turning balls back inside. Lots of angled runs from everybody.

Bird was running freely down one end of the field, as was Dearden. I actually heard Bird tell a fan he was right to play now but the club were being overly cautious with him. He looked ready to go imo .... very fit.

Anyway, from what i saw at this training session i would say that complacency is not an issue
 

Gaz

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It would make a change to see them on your side. But I can't see it.

There is no pride. Truth be told, I'd rather have missed the finals so the new coach could feel the full wrath of the cities team not making finals.
For all the support they’re getting on this site you’d be forgiven for thinking they had.
 
Defensive drills right in front of me with Staggs and Isaako looking good....reading things well and talking heaps.
Reports coming from The Oval nets that David Warner has been creaming cover drives against tall right handers bowling around the wicket. Some sort of double between Broncos right side defence and Aus opening partnership gonna pay heaps this weekend.
 

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I'm not looking to be negative and I do think making the Finals is far better than not. I just think that maybe this year more than most is a stark reminder of how the Top 8 Finals system satisfies TV ratings with extra games and appeases fans, but it definitely doesn't reflect well on the standard overall when teams can get there on 25 points.
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If he had a a good general play kicking game (I'm not saying he doesn't) then I just don't understand why we haven't seen it even at training yet?

If he could bring that to the table I'd love to see him given a run at Fullback but at this stage there isn't any real evidence for that kicking game or playmaking ability and he's hardly our most devastating ball runner, and without either of those two things you really can't cut it as a Fullback in the modern game anymore.
I'm willing to bet Isaako would make a fine fullback, a fine 5/8 and a fine centre. I'd bet also that he can kick any type of kick and pass both left and right quite capably. I think he may be the future in two years time if given a chance. I'd audition him at 5/8 in the preseason with a longer term view. A little taste or carrot if you'd like. Mind you I'd want to see what he thinks first of course but I'd definitely try him there.
 

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No I'm stating that he doesn't enjoy it.
I have watched him play and he's a 7 in my eyes and he will play next year at some point, so I don't understand your random position remark.
I did say to play half didn't I? Seggy is 14 and turpin can go to 9 aswell.
Shiba didn't play one second of footy last week, so how is it disruptive if paix takes his spot?
It’s random because you can’t guarantee he will play half and it is not where he’s been playing. So if he ends up at centre on debut in a final what then? Or are you going to make three changes just to accommodate him at half?

No injuries you just take off a half just because. You need to plan for the worst which is him having to play a position he isn’t equipped for for 75 minutes.
 
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winslow_wong

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I'm willing to bet Isaako would make a fine fullback, a fine 5/8 and a fine centre. I'd bet also that he can kick any type of kick and pass both left and right quite capably. I think he may be the future in two years time if given a chance. I'd audition him at 5/8 in the preseason with a longer term view. A little taste or carrot if you'd like. Mind you I'd want to see what he thinks first of course but I'd definitely try him there.
He probably does possess all those skills but I’m not sure he’d know how and when to use them. I see him more as a finisher than someone who’d set up plays for guys around him. I’ve heard people here, that seem to have followed his career more than I have, say he isn’t one to pass very much.
 

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Anyway, the boys looked sharp at training today.

Lots of time spent on stopping offloads in tackles during opposed session.

Tons of talk and enthusiasm out there, in fact a little too much enthusiasm with 'Webcke' Flegler landed a jab on Farnsworths chin !! Much laughter from teammates but Flegler was pretty firey.

Defensive drills right in front of me with Staggs and Isaako looking good....reading things well and talking heaps. Conversely, Oates and Glenn stuffed things up a bit....Oates did to be precise. He really doesnt seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed

Forwards looked very impressive .. lots of 'unders' balls to Fifita coming back against the grain. The kid is indeed a freakin monster !! Macca working on running out of dummyhalf and turning balls back inside. Lots of angled runs from everybody.

Bird was running freely down one end of the field, as was Dearden. I actually heard Bird tell a fan he was right to play now but the club were being overly cautious with him. He looked ready to go imo .... very fit.

Anyway, from what i saw at this training session i would say that complacency is not an issue
Thank $&@# for a worthwhile read.
Have been avoiding this cesspool this week.
 

pagey

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It’s random because you can’t guarantee he will play half and it is not where he’s been playing. So if he ends up at centre on debut in a final what then? Or are you going to make three changes just to accommodate him at half?

No injuries you just take off a half just because. You need to plan for the worst which is him having to play a position he isn’t equipped for for 75 minutes.
This is why I suggested it , I am planning for the worst! I'd make 3 changes, it's not like seibold doesn't like making silly changes
 

Gaz

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Broncos' Lodge promises NRL fireworks
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Brisbane prop Matt Lodge is primed for a big game against Parramatta in the NRL finals.

Brisbane prop Matt Lodge is primed for a big game against Parramatta in the NRL finals.

Fired-up prop Matt Lodge has predicted early fireworks in Brisbane's NRL elimination final against Parramatta on Sunday as the underdogs aim to turn around their poor Sydney record.
Lodge said the Broncos pack would be out to prove the critics wrong, after claiming there had been talk that they could be bullied, with a fast start at Bankwest Stadium against the Eels - who finished the regular season fifth.

Lodge backed fellow prop Payne Haas and back-rower David Fifita to lead the way for Brisbane who have largely been written off after scraping into the finals in eighth spot.
"They (Eels) start fast but I am backing our guys to start fast as well, there should be some fireworks at the start of the game," he warned.

"A few people have said we can get bullied through the middle but I don't think people are going to have too much luck bullying guys like Payne or Dave; we can't wait for Sunday.
"Hopefully there is going to be some big contact and there are a few shots for people to watch when our packs go head to head."
Brisbane will need to overcome a woeful 1-4 record in Sydney this year in which they have conceded 164 points - including a 38-10 thrashing from Parramatta at Bankwest Stadium in round 14.
Not that Lodge had to be reminded.
"To be honest we have been pretty s**t in Sydney. Everyone knows that," he said.
"But it is a different ball game now. It is knockout footy.
"We will go down there with a different mindset.
"We are not going down there thinking we are underdogs. I am confident we can get the job done."
Lodge said he would not be losing sleep over the critics writing off their chances of ending their longest premiership drought and winning their first title since 2006.
"There are probably some people writing us off but there is belief in the group," he said.
"I think the more games we win the more people will shut up, that's the only way to do it."
Lodge said Brisbane would take confidence out of their 17-16 golden point win over the Eels at Suncorp Stadium two weeks ago.

"We played them a couple of weeks ago and we had a tight game which could have gone either way, so we will have to improve a few things from that game but all the boys here are confident," he said.
 

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Good to hear Lodgey's mind is well and truly on making an impact. When I recall his standards at the beginning of the season I have to say he has been fairly quiet over recent weeks.

Controlled aggression mate, that's what we need to support our two young guns. Also, Joffa is back hopefully his origin experience this year will give him an edge.
 

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I'm willing to bet Isaako would make a fine fullback, a fine 5/8 and a fine centre. I'd bet also that he can kick any type of kick and pass both left and right quite capably. I think he may be the future in two years time if given a chance. I'd audition him at 5/8 in the preseason with a longer term view. A little taste or carrot if you'd like. Mind you I'd want to see what he thinks first of course but I'd definitely try him there.
But surely the place to try these things out is at training first? I mean, if he honestly had a talent for it then you'd like to think someone at Red Hill has noticed it and they've looked into it already? The fact we haven't seen any of it at this point suggests that he most likely doesn't have a lot of those skills, or the less likely alternative that literally no one has ever thought to ask or test it out, which would be really concerning indeed. Surely you don't get to the end of your second season at NRL level before anyone realises you actually have this great kicking and passing game?
 

Gaz

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Tells you something about the expectations some of us fans have then. A lot higher than the shit we've been given this year.
Must admit my expectations were also high particularly towards the end of the pre-season but came down with a thud early on and was left completely flat on more than one occasion.

After I accepted our lot and realised it was going to take this year and perhaps next it made life look a bit clearer. Knowing Wayne pushed so hard for next year gave me further belief where we stood.

Making the top eight was totally unexpected for me and although I am happy for small mercies and have little confidence in the team going much further, boys against men and all that, doesn't mean I won't support them or have any less pride in them having a go regardless.
 

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No I'm stating that he doesn't enjoy it.
I have watched him play and he's a 7 in my eyes and he will play next year at some point, so I don't understand your random position remark.
I did say to play half didn't I? Seggy is 14 and turpin can go to 9 aswell.
Shiba didn't play one second of footy last week, so how is it disruptive if paix takes his spot?
Call me crazy, but I reckon it’s pretty hard to take Shibasaki’s spot when he wasn’t in the 17 last week.
 

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