'Homesick' Ben Hannant may quit Bulldogs

[ningnangnong]

Could just be playing it up to get Hannant to lower his asking price.

 

[Jazza]

Titans rule out Hannant bid

GOLD Coast chief executive Michael Searle yesterday made it clear he would not trade any Titans players for homesick Bulldogs Test prop Ben Hannant.

Searle's strong stand could leave Hannant with little alternative but to honour his Bulldogs contract which expires at the end of 2011, especially as the Broncos say they will not bid for his signature.

The Titans believe they can accommodate the local boy in 2012, but a deal for next year would be almost impossible, particularly if it involved a player swap as has been suggested by Bulldogs chief executive Todd Greenberg.

"It is a challenge to come up with a solution to satisfy the Bulldogs and Ben," Searle said.

"We will make a swift decision because we don't want our players in limbo about what is likely to happen, and I'm sure Ben and his family would not want this to drag on, and neither would the Bulldogs especially as they are struggling.

"I'm not interested in trading any of our players. I'm not into meat trading.

"I have a lot of difficulty with the trading thing because these are people's lives we're talking about.

"The only way we would was if a player came to us and said he wanted to go. But I know our players are happy here.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl ... 5844483044

I guess the SE QLD clubs aren't as desperate to bring Hannant back up here as he thought. [icon_lol1.

Haha gotta love the subtle swipes at the Bulldogs there from Searle

 

[Kimlo]

Could just be playing it up to get Hannant to lower his asking price.

I'm thinking the same thing. Now that Broncos ruled out any interest Titans know that he only has one option which significantly reduces Hannant's bargaining power.

 

[Kimlo]

Chanel 9 sports update reports Hannant wants out for more money, not due to home sickness.

I believe it 100%

Obviously there are no direct quotes, anyone who thinks he would actually admit it would be naive. If I were the Bulldogs I wouldn't release him and let him suffer the full 3 years or sit out but no way he would sit out cause he would be missing out on money.

For the family excuses are absolute rubbish and I don't buy it for one second, he's been to Sydney before. A 4 year old would barely know what a state or city is let alone actually be "home sick". Kids excuse is rubbish. GC is only one hour away and on his pay packet he can afford to go home every day if he wanted to.

Nice try Hannant, unfortunately clubs can't do shit about it, if a player wants to go they are forced to release him or have someone who is playing without heart take up 1/10th of their salary cap.

 

[Kimlo]

Oh and back to the Searle comments, I find it a bit ironic that Searle says he's not into "meat trading" considering when Turner back flipped on his contract to join the Titans Mr I'm against meat trading made an agreement that he would only agree with Turner staying in Melbourne if Melbourne made a "meat trade" with him.

The meat trade did happen, they got Daniel Issac and Smith Samau as part of the "meet trading" agreement.

 

[Nashy]

Where have the Broncos ruled it out?

 

[Kimlo]

Chanel 9 sports update reports Hannant wants out for more money, not due to home sickness.

I believe it 100%

Obviously there are no direct quotes, anyone who thinks he would actually admit it would be naive. If I were the Bulldogs I wouldn't release him and let him suffer the full 3 years or sit out but no way he would sit out cause he would be missing out on money.

For the family excuses are absolute rubbish and I don't buy it for one second, he's been to Sydney before. A 4 year old would barely know what a state or city is let alone actually be "home sick". Kids excuse is rubbish. GC is only one hour away and on his pay packet he can afford to go home every day if he wanted to.

Nice try Hannant, unfortunately clubs can't do shit about it, if a player wants to go they are forced to release him or have someone who is playing without heart take up 1/10th of their salary cap.

Riiight. That doesn't add up at all. Why would a 300,000 prop want to leave the club for more money? Realistically, what club is going to pay him more than 300,000 a year? If he's extremely lucky, he might somehow snatch the 350,000 mark from a club that is cashed up with money to spend. But considering the Titans and Broncos aren't cashed up, why would Hannant's motive be for "money".

Seriously, that is nearly the dumbest thing I have ever read on BHQ, in my whole entire life. Not surprising that broncopwn believes it too.

"Marquee" players get a lot more than 300k.
Every dollar makes a difference for greed machines like him. There's a good reason he hasn't had a manager for a big part of his career.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Chanel 9 sports update reports Hannant wants out for more money, not due to home sickness.

I believe it 100%

Obviously there are no direct quotes, anyone who thinks he would actually admit it would be naive. If I were the Bulldogs I wouldn't release him and let him suffer the full 3 years or sit out but no way he would sit out cause he would be missing out on money.

For the family excuses are absolute rubbish and I don't buy it for one second, he's been to Sydney before. A 4 year old would barely know what a state or city is let alone actually be "home sick". Kids excuse is rubbish. GC is only one hour away and on his pay packet he can afford to go home every day if he wanted to.

Nice try Hannant, unfortunately clubs can't do shit about it, if a player wants to go they are forced to release him or have someone who is playing without heart take up 1/10th of their salary cap.

Riiight. That doesn't add up at all. Why would a 300,000 prop want to leave the club for more money? Realistically, what club is going to pay him more than 300,000 a year? If he's extremely lucky, he might somehow snatch the 350,000 mark from a club that is cashed up with money to spend. But considering the Titans and Broncos aren't cashed up, why would Hannant's motive be for "money".

Seriously, that is nearly the dumbest thing I have ever read on BHQ, in my whole entire life. Not surprising that broncopwn believes it too.

You dont read your own posts?

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[ningnangnong]

Yeah, Hannant would have to be pretty thick to try and leave the Bulldogs for more money.

Unless a team gets desperate, he's not going to get more than he is currently.

 

[schmix]

Chanel 9 sports update reports Hannant wants out for more money, not due to home sickness.

I believe it 100%

Obviously there are no direct quotes, anyone who thinks he would actually admit it would be naive. If I were the Bulldogs I wouldn't release him and let him suffer the full 3 years or sit out but no way he would sit out cause he would be missing out on money.

For the family excuses are absolute rubbish and I don't buy it for one second, he's been to Sydney before. A 4 year old would barely know what a state or city is let alone actually be "home sick". Kids excuse is rubbish. GC is only one hour away and on his pay packet he can afford to go home every day if he wanted to.

Nice try Hannant, unfortunately clubs can't do shit about it, if a player wants to go they are forced to release him or have someone who is playing without heart take up 1/10th of their salary cap.

Of course you believe it. People will believe any report that backs up what they already think, regardless of the 30 other conflicting reports.

FFS I wish people would quit with the "he's been to Sydney before" shit. He was young, had no kids, and probably lived in Roosters territory and therefore pretty close to the excitement of the city. I can't believe some people can't see how different that kind of situation is.

But you're probably right about the family rubbish. I bet his wife just loves being stuck in a city where she barely knows anyone, raising three kids without the help of family or friends. There's no way she could possibly be homesick... :roll:

 

[Jeba]

For the family excuses are absolute rubbish and I don't buy it for one second, he's been to Sydney before. A 4 year old would barely know what a state or city is let alone actually be "home sick". Kids excuse is rubbish. GC is only one hour away and on his pay packet he can afford to go home every day if he wanted to.

Got kids do you? Know how they think?

Or more to the point - before his latest move to Sydney (as schmix touched upon in her post), the last time he was in Sydney was 2005 when he was at the Roosters. His family has changed since then, his current situation is not the same as what he had the first time. There were no kids in the picture, so how can it possibly be the same situation?

Imagine a 4-year-old talking to his grandparents on the phone and hearing him/her say that they want to see them? Or "can you come to our house?" or something like that. Happens in just about every phone conversation between grandparents and grandchildren.

And FFS, a 1 hour flight is a lot harder than a 1 hour drive. Having to go to airports etc, it's not like he can just decide one minute that he's off to see the family than an hour and 5 minutes later he is having a coffee with them.

As Rocky said, get a grip broncospwn. You're looking like an idiot and you have no idea.

 

[Kimlo]

I'm pretty sure I read an article saying his kid is 4 (probably around 5 now) years old seeing as he got one mid-late last year which was his 3rd, which means he probably had kids and wife while he was still in Sydney unless he managed to get 3 kids in 3 years succesively.

Actually Jeba, I was an uncle by 10 years old and have 8 nephews/nieces who have more or less lived with me for the major part of their lives and one who has lived with us since she was born. I know a lot about 4 year old kids, there's 4 of them around that age who come over close to every day.

He only moved up their for the cash but now that he can get the same cash back here because "he's a marquee player and teams build their sides around him" he wants to break his contract and use family as an excuse. How come family didn't come into consideration until now, why not any time during last year, why not off season? I'm sure if he was truly home sick he would of known it before he has been in Sydney for close to a year and a half now.

He couldn't tell the Bulldogs I want to leave because I can get the same or even more cash in QLD now because he'd come off as a tosser and the Bulldogs would say no. Instead he plays the family/home sickness card to make it look like he's such a nice guy who's only doing this for families sake.

If Titans or Broncos offer him a 100k contract will he come back to QLD, I mean he wants to come back for family right?

Just found out Hannant is from a family of 14!
Ben Hannant, a powerfully built young man at age eighteen and the ninth of the twelve children.
WOW. Maybe he did manage to get 3 kids from 06-09 while he was in brisbane. If that's the case it makes his story slightly more believable.

 

[Jeba]

He only moved up to Brisbane for the cash? Oh dude seriously, go to bed you're making things worse for yourself. He moved up here for an opportunity in first grade. Yes the Broncos would've signed him for a higher wage than what the Roosters would've paid him, but he had been through the Broncos before, and knew that the Broncos saw potential in him so a move up here would mean he can start making a name for himself.

If his kid is 4-5 years old, well let's say 5 years old. That means he was born in 2004 or 2005. So he had one kid down in Sydney. That is A LOT different to having 3 kids in Sydney being away from your family. And if you can't acknowledge that you're a lot stupider than I had anticipated.

Why didn't family come into consideration until now? Well this problem could've (and most likely would have) been brewing up for months or maybe even a year. He and his wife wouldn't have just said to each other "Hey this sucks let's leave".

 

[Kimlo]

He only moved up to Brisbane for the cash? Oh dude seriously, go to bed you're making things worse for yourself. He moved up here for an opportunity in first grade. Yes the Broncos would've signed him for a higher wage than what the Roosters would've paid him, but he had been through the Broncos before, and knew that the Broncos saw potential in him so a move up here would mean he can start making a name for himself.

If his kid is 4-5 years old, well let's say 5 years old. That means he was born in 2004 or 2005. So he had one kid down in Sydney. That is A LOT different to having 3 kids in Sydney being away from your family. And if you can't acknowledge that you're a lot stupider than I had anticipated.

Why didn't family come into consideration until now? Well this problem could've (and most likely would have) been brewing up for months or maybe even a year. He and his wife wouldn't have just said to each other "Hey this sucks let's leave".

Only wanting to move to brisbane for Cash now, not before. He knows he can get the same wage in brisbane now.

I don't care how different it is, he would of had an idea of what to expect, he had a kid and a wife and was living in Sydney, even if it's a whole lot different he would of known if he wanted to be here down the track with 3 kids. He went up because the Bulldogs offered him a lot more but now he can the same or a better contract back in QLD so he's going back. Sure him and his family would prefer to be in QLD but that comes 2nd to money otherwise he wouldn't of went to the Bulldogs in the first place.

Why is he playing the season out ? Why not go now to QLD, well both clubs don't have enough money under their cap this season which means he would prefer to stay in Sydney this year because he'll be getting paid a lot more. Leave start of next year and he'll get the same cash.

I still don't buy the family excuses, YES I AGREE FAMILY is a part in his decision but money is his main motivator and now that the money factor will be the same in QLD as it is in Sydney he decided he would bail on his contract and go to QLD.

 

[Huge]

broncosperm, how can you KNOW , definitively that money is BHs main concern ?? Unless you know the man personally and know his form over a good stretch of time you are in no place to judge. The Bulldogs do not appear to be upset with BH even defending him by saying that they were fully aware of his extremely strong family bonds BEFORE signing him from Brisbane.

He told them PRIOR to leaving Brisbane that he was unsure if his family could handle the move and they were forewarned. I see no deceit or dishonour in BHs actions and can only comment from my observations of his contemporaries. How come you are so sure, broncosperm ??

 

[Kimlo]

broncosperm, how can you KNOW , definitively that money is BHs main concern ?? Unless you know the man personally and know his form over a good stretch of time you are in no place to judge. The Bulldogs do not appear to be upset with BH even defending him by saying that they were fully aware of his extremely strong family bonds BEFORE signing him from Brisbane.

He told them PRIOR to leaving Brisbane that he was unsure if his family could handle the move and they were forewarned. I see no deceit or dishonour in BHs actions and can only comment from my observations of his contemporaries. How come you are so sure, broncosperm ??

Actions speak louder than words.
To make myself clear to avoid confusion. Obviously he's coming back because of family but only because money is no longer the sacrifice to make. It now looks like this to him

A) huge contract in sydney
B) huge contract in brisbane = obvious choice because that's where his family is, where he wants to raise his kids.

My point is if the first part of option B wasn't on the table like it wasn't towards the end of 2008 than he would remain with option A. I don't buy the he's coming back because of family only, he's coming back for family obviously but only because money is equal (or better) in either situation now.

 

[Kimlo]

Seriously dude, what is wrong with you?? You're 18 years old and you think you've been there done that. You make assumptions about people based on how YOU would cope with it. Just because YOU think that it's easily adjustable for Hannant's family, just because that's YOUR opinion, you seem to think that the same would apply for every man and their dog!

I don't care how different it is, he would of had an idea of what to expect, he had a kid and a wife and was living in Sydney, even if it's a whole lot different he would of known if he wanted to be here down the track with 3 kids.

WTF? Of course he would have an idea on what to expect, and his wife probably knew what to expect too. But knowing and DOING are 2 completely different things. Sometimes decisions you will make in life might sound good in theory, but once you actually DO IT and EXPERIENCE it, it can be a totally different story.

I remember telling my wife back when we had our first child at 19. I said to her, "Let's live at my mums for 5 years, it'll be fine, financially it'll be easy and my mum won't get in the way she's good etc etc.." We both agreed that we'd do that because it sounded good and it was planned out. We lasted 5 weeks. We went and got a rental place after that and it was so much better.

Life is made up of trial and error and it's made up of many mistakes.

You're unbelievably naive. You're just a kid with zero life experience and little common sense. Hope that's not too harsh for you because I'm not trying to be nasty but that's how you're coming across.

Look I won't go into this any further. This discussion isn't going anywhere, it's just getting to insults, we have a difference of opinion, I'm not going to agree with you and you won't agree with me. I still believe he left for more money but now money is equal back here he wants back, you believe what you want to believe.
No such thing as too harsh, what someone thinks of me on an internet forum that doesn't know me in person does not affect me.

 

[Kimlo]

The article with him saying he's a marquee player and that he can get the same money back in qld because teams will have him at the top of their salary cap now is all the substance I need.