Is Lachlan Maranta Really That Bad?

[Allo]

Yeah it's getting a bit stupid now. While 4 in 4 is quite good (equal 2nd in the comp with 10 other players), he still hasn't displayed anything other than basic hand-eye coordination in all of them. At least that's happening for the moment

 

[Mr Fourex]

I still consider him a centre, do you rate Maranta a better attacking player than SKD ?

SKD is a complete shunt. I'd rather Maranta in a side than him any day ......

 

[Ari Gold]

I get your point but honestly what team plays like that? Apart from Radradra who can create something out of nothing - what other winger creates their own opportunities on a consistent basis? Most of them play exactly like Maranta has been - they cap off attacking plays with the try. It's just what wingers do.

But some teams create half chances which their wingers convert. Maranta doesn't take half chances, he doesn't even back himself and instead cuts inside (probably because he knows he has bad sideline awareness).

And because you ask about what other wingers? I'll just give you one example, David Fusitua. Doesn't create them Radradra style, but tell me Maranta would score any of these. FTR, Fusitua has only played 12 games, which is 1/4 of what Maranta has played, yet he has these tries, and I don't think Maranta has scored anything as nearly as impressive as these.







And of course, you have guys like Morris and Nightingale who have scored a bunch of very good winger tries. I could probably find examples from every team in the comp of wingers scoring tries from half chances, something you won't see Maranta do.

One of these players is Kyle Feldt. Who is basically the opposite of Maranta as he's about as safe with the ball as a piece of KFC is around me. But Feldt will likely improve his handling and what not and go on to become a fine winger. He might not of course, but much more chance of that happening than Maranta scoring a Feldt try.

 

[GCBRONCO]

A wingers job is to finish a try in any situation his capable of and as such it's still 4 points regardless of a standard try or what is co side red a flashy try, it's also funny the suggestion that any winger in the same situation would scored, if that were true we wouldn't see similar tries bombed but they are. As far as Maranta's improvement goes his showing improvement, but his got a long way to go yet to be a certainty but I'll give the bloke a chance to do so.

 

[BroncosAlways]

SKD is a complete shunt. I'd rather Maranta in a side than him any day ......

I agree with your first sentence.

Again, do you rate Maranta a better attacking player than SKD ?

 

[BroncosAlways]

A wingers job is to finish a try in any situation his capable of and as such it's still 4 points regardless of a standard try or what is co side red a flashy try, it's also funny the suggestion that any winger in the same situation would scored, if that were true we wouldn't see similar tries bombed but they are. As far as Maranta's improvement goes his showing improvement, but his got a long way to go yet to be a certainty but I'll give the bloke a chance to do so.

Fair enough. Although what I hate more than anything, is seeing people say "I'll give him a chance"

The blokes had enough chances IMO.

 

[Mr Fourex]

But some teams create half chances which their wingers convert. Maranta doesn't take half chances, he doesn't even back himself and instead cuts inside (probably because he knows he has bad sideline awareness).

And because you ask about what other wingers? I'll just give you one example, David Fusitua. Doesn't create them Radradra style, but tell me Maranta would score any of these. FTR, Fusitua has only played 12 games, which is 1/4 of what Maranta has played, yet he has these tries, and I don't think Maranta has scored anything as nearly as impressive as these.







And of course, you have guys like Morris and Nightingale who have scored a bunch of very good winger tries. I could probably find examples from every team in the comp of wingers scoring tries from half chances, something you won't see Maranta do.

One of these players is Kyle Feldt. Who is basically the opposite of Maranta as he's about as safe with the ball as a piece of KFC is around me. But Feldt will likely improve his handling and what not and go on to become a fine winger. He might not of course, but much more chance of that happening than Maranta scoring a Feldt try.

Why stop the criticism just at Maranta. Brisbane haven't had anyone who could score those tries since Jharal Yow yeh

 

[Ari Gold]

Why stop the criticism just at Maranta. Brisbane haven't had anyone who could score those tries since Jharal Yow yeh

Maranta has never scored a try that more than half of the other wingers in the comp wouldn't also have scored. He's also failed to score some tries that most of the other wingers in the comp would have scored. This is not true of Oates for instance, who has scored some difficult tries.

Quite literally, I think at least half of Maranta's tries have seen him go over untouched. And I don't say literally the way people say it figuratively, I mean literally untouched. And I don't recall him scoring many in traffic either.

If your winger can't score in traffic, they are giving up something. Vidot also can't score in traffic and is almost as inept at Maranta at scoring. But that's not true of someone like Corey Oates, and whilst Copley bombed as many as Maranta in his first season, he's improved and gone on to score some difficult tries. Not things I can say about Maranta. Hence why I stop the criticism at Maranta.

 

[M.B.88]

We should of got reece robinson back. At least we'd have a decent kicker

 

[GCBRONCO]

When I say a chance I may not have explained to you whyI actually do agree he's been given probably too many chances however at present there aren't a substantial amount of alternatives that are screaming for selection, I see that changing when boyd returns and that is the timeframe imo he has to justify his position. Don't assume because I see some improvement in him means I think his not got a lot of work to convince me longterm his anything other then a depth player.

 

[vertigo]

How is this ten pages? :laugh:

Yeah it sucks him and Reed are still in the Broncos backline but until someone is promoted or recruited it is what it is.

 

[Huge]

When a player is discussed over ten pages I'd say it's fairly indicative of either a genuine loathing or a begrudging respect. I tend to think deep down that amongst we fans there is a feeling that he is a dropkick....but he's our dropkick ! I know some would never give him another game but for me, I want reliability first and greatness second. He's a team player and the old saying 'a champion team will beat a team of champions' applies here. No, Maranta is not a bad winger, he is a competent winger and a first grade standard one at that. People who don't think he is good enough for the ISC are simply bad judges.

He's been given a challenge and thus far is meeting it head on. I love an underdog and like Maranta, he's tough, he's proven and he's a team player. Deserves his spot until someone ,who can be all Maranta is and then exceed that, comes along.

 

[rnabokov]

This is more why Copley must play centre and put Reed on the wing where he can finish better than create.

 

[lynx000]

Maranta has never scored a try that more than half of the other wingers in the comp wouldn't also have scored. He's also failed to score some tries that most of the other wingers in the comp would have scored. This is not true of Oates for instance, who has scored some difficult tries.

Quite literally, I think at least half of Maranta's tries have seen him go over untouched. And I don't say literally the way people say it figuratively, I mean literally untouched. And I don't recall him scoring many in traffic either.

If your winger can't score in traffic, they are giving up something. Vidot also can't score in traffic and is almost as inept at Maranta at scoring. But that's not true of someone like Corey Oates, and whilst Copley bombed as many as Maranta in his first season, he's improved and gone on to score some difficult tries. Not things I can say about Maranta. Hence why I stop the criticism at Maranta.

I have pretty much refrained from entering the Maranta debate, but I find trying to compare Maranta to some of the better wingers a bit of a moot point. It is like comparing coal and a diamond, or shane perry to wally lewis or andrew johns. One is a serviceable first grader who on most occasions can do a job for you, the others are true champions.

Maranta is developing in my view as a footballer, but all he will ever be is a serviceable first grader and never a Yow Yeh. If you want that very dangerous, fast winger who is prepared to back himself in most situations you either have to grow one through the grades or buy one. We do not seem to be in the market for one, and from what I have seen of what we have coming through the cupboard is also pretty bare or they are no where near ready for first grade.

So if your only suggested replacement for Maranta is Vidot, he equally has substantial flaws. So in my view, as long as Maranta keeps improving and justifies his place in the side, and there is no superior player either developed or purchased, or someone that shows such a patch of form that they demand selection, then Maranta remains in the side. That seems to be the scenario to me, so I don't really understand the agitation to remove him.

 

[lynx000]

When a player is discussed over ten pages I'd say it's fairly indicative of either a genuine loathing or a begrudging respect. I tend to think deep down that amongst we fans there is a feeling that he is a dropkick....but he's our dropkick ! I know some would never give him another game but for me, I want reliability first and greatness second. He's a team player and the old saying 'a champion team will beat a team of champions' applies here. No, Maranta is not a bad winger, he is a competent winger and a first grade standard one at that. People who don't think he is good enough for the ISC are simply bad judges.

He's been given a challenge and thus far is meeting it head on. I love an underdog and like Maranta, he's tough, he's proven and he's a team player. Deserves his spot until someone ,who can be all Maranta is and then exceed that, comes along.

Had I read down a little bit further I would not have bothered posting. This is pretty much my point as well, Huge just said it in fewer words.

 

[heartly87]

Well now he is our fullback. So we will have another 10 pages of if he is the worst fullback

 

[Huge]

Well now he is our fullback. So we will have another 10 pages of if he is the worst fullback

No...the 'honour' of being the worst fullback I have ever seen during the Broncos entire history goes to Justin Hodges. He was exactly one half of Lockyer...he could attack and defend but Hodges was the worst turnstile and positioned himself so poorly that I wanted to hurt my big screen

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Nightingale is off contract end of year and apparently unhappy if you believe the rumours. Definitely one of the most underrated wingers in the game and one of the best finishers to boot. Maybe wayne can use the player recruiting magic to get him here?