Ivan, Ivan, Ivan

[Anonymous person]

Just for the record Ffs, what exactly is it that we(IH?Broncs) are creating ???

A successful team playing semi final football ??

A stable well drilled team

Kinda makes you wonder don't it....?? I could of sworn that's what we had BEFORE we lost Wayne Bennett !

90% of this team hadnt played more than a handful of matches in first grade with Wayne Bennett as the coach, with MANY of them debuting after Bennett left.

 

[Ffs...]

[quote="Ffs...":1w7gw53s]We have a young squad. Players don't toughen up mentally until they reach at least their early 20's.

Defence isn't just about coaching or plans, it's about effort, and in our case most importantly, confidence.

I still think IH is an excellent coach. I'm looking forward to see how we go with some stability over the next 3 years. Sure hope the whiny peanut gallery doesn't get int he way of what we are creating.

Just for the record Ffs, what exactly is it that we(IH?Broncs) are creating ???

A successful team playing semi final football ??

A stable well drilled team

Kinda makes you wonder don't it....?? I could of sworn that's what we had BEFORE we lost Wayne Bennett ![/quote:1w7gw53s]

We are creating a winning team imo. It needs time. I believe in the direction its headed and want to see how this team goes with a McCullough, Hoffman, Norman and Hunt all with a few years of life and football under their belt. I take it you disagree fine. Go with your bad self.

As for WB, well WB never coached this side did he.

We have a new coach and a host of kids in key positions. It will take time to develop. If it was as easy as turning on a tap WB would never have lost a match during the origin period with all his experienced players out.

At any rate WB is gone, he isn't coming back, so what is the point in pining for him?

 

[Huge]

My point was unclear then. It was that the DECISION was supposed to be for the betterment of the Broncos not to its detriment. Once upon a time we never considered our team as 'building' rather whoever pulled on the jersey was simply part of THE team. The team was already built so the decision to change what wasn't broken ,was supposed to be for improvement, right ?......it obviously was not made so that we could perform poorly, surely.

WB is gone , yes but my comment is about the wisdom of change for change sake and equally, the thinking from a purely business point of view. What motivated such a bizarre choice. Was there a level above and beyond what was already being achieved ?

or as I suspect , was it something as mundane as petty jealousy heedless of the damage caused ?

 

[rnabokov]

We are stuck with Henjak. Let's make the most of it, and that means opining about his strengths and weaknesses. That's why this forum is so good.

A coach makes or breaks a team. To me that's bloody obvious. That was evident with the Socceroos. It's the same with this team. In many ways, I think the Socceroos disaster, largely attributable to the coach, has echoes with our beloved team.

Henjak has done well in moulding a young, largely inexperienced side into a potentially premiership winning unit. And tha's what pisses me off most. Recently, we were playing with that sort of form. Sure, we lost Locky, but that shouldn't account for the absolutely miserable consequences wrought by Henjak's poor choices to compensate - like Gillett at 5/8 at a time when we needed an experienced half not Gillett, AND when Gillett was such a strike weapon out wide, AND having Hunt and Macca at hooker, then pulling Macca when he was playing extra well as was the team as a result, AND not having an extra forward on the bench.

IMO, playing Hunt from the bench at this time of the season is plain stupid.

My main criticism of Henjak is that I feel he is pig headed, and run too much by his ego.

At least he has made the right call and not played Locky this week, or so it seems. You never know with Henjak.

 

[Anonymous person]

lets not forget that Henjak isnt the only Broncos coach to make some absolutely ridiculous decisions on which players play in what positions, especially the halves [icon_wink

at least Gillett has had experience playing 5/8th before he was put there by henjak.

 

[pennywisealfie]

I like Ivan.

 

[Coxy]

In Soviet Union, Ivan like you!

 

[pennywisealfie]

yaaaaaaay

 

[rnabokov]

lets not forget that Henjak isnt the only Broncos coach to make some absolutely ridiculous decisions on which players play in what positions, especially the halves [icon_wink

at least Gillett has had experience playing 5/8th before he was put there by henjak.

That maybe true, but not at this stage of the competition when Henjak had the choice of an experienced half in Hunt. At least credit to Henjak for admitting his error.

At the same time, playing T'eo at prop is bloody stupid, and persisting with Hunt off the bench is just ridiculous. If he pulls the same stunt against the Warriors, there'll be no-one to be blame if we lose other than Henjak.

Actually, Locky or no, there really is no reason why we should lose to the Warriors, other than team selection, and the consequences on the whole team of that. We saw this when Macca mysteriously disappeared last week.

 

[Anonymous person]

That maybe true, but not at this stage of the competition when Henjak had the choice of an experienced half in Hunt. At least credit to Henjak for admitting his error.

At the same time, playing T'eo at prop is bloody stupid, and persisting with Hunt off the bench is just ridiculous. If he pulls the same stunt against the Warriors, there'll be no-one to be blame if we lose other than Henjak.

Actually, Locky or no, there really is no reason why we should lose to the Warriors, other than team selection, and the consequences on the whole team of that. We saw this when Macca mysteriously disappeared last week.

i wouldnt call hunt 'experienced'.

i agree about Teo, i have no idea why hes playing Prop when we have Kenny/Anderson/Setu/Tronc/Dodds etc to pick from.

but i cant agree about there being no reason why we should lose to the warriors. theyre sitting above us on the ladder, and are a genuinely good team. lockyer or no lockyer, the trip to NZ is never an easy one for any team, let alone a broncos team full of 20 year olds.

 

[Jeba]

Howcome Setu isn't being picked?...

 

[Coxy]

Howcome Setu isn't being picked?...

I heard a rumour he had a falling out with Ivan. That's the only possible explanation.

 

[ethos]

Howcome Setu isn't being picked?...

I heard a rumour he had a falling out with Ivan. That's the only possible explanation.

Maybe. But he hasn't been playing in the QCup either the last few weeks. Perhaps an injury?

 

[ningnangnong]

Howcome Setu isn't being picked?...

I heard a rumour he had a falling out with Ivan. That's the only possible explanation.

Maybe. But he hasn't been playing in the QCup either the last few weeks. Perhaps an injury?

I think you just got punk'd. :mrgreen:

 

[ethos]

Haha guessing there was an in joke woven in there somewhere?

Haven't been 'round the forums in a while, it went right over my head (whatever it is).

 

[Coxy]

Hehe. He has a broken jaw. It's been mentioned quite a few times in the forum, but it hasn't stopped quite a few people still saying "why doesn't Henjak pick Setu?!?!? FFFFUUUUU!!!" [icon_lol1.

 

[rnabokov]

[quote="Anonymous person":37j0ga18]

That maybe true, but not at this stage of the competition when Henjak had the choice of an experienced half in Hunt. At least credit to Henjak for admitting his error.

At the same time, playing T'eo at prop is bloody stupid, and persisting with Hunt off the bench is just ridiculous. If he pulls the same stunt against the Warriors, there'll be no-one to be blame if we lose other than Henjak.

Actually, Locky or no, there really is no reason why we should lose to the Warriors, other than team selection, and the consequences on the whole team of that. We saw this when Macca mysteriously disappeared last week.

i wouldnt call hunt 'experienced'.

i agree about Teo, i have no idea why hes playing Prop when we have Kenny/Anderson/Setu/Tronc/Dodds etc to pick from.

but i cant agree about there being no reason why we should lose to the warriors. theyre sitting above us on the ladder, and are a genuinely good team. lockyer or no lockyer, the trip to NZ is never an easy one for any team, let alone a broncos team full of 20 year olds.

I think he meant to say that Hunt is a "genuine" half.

Definitely wouldn't call anyone experienced with 20 or so odd games. [icon_lol1.[/quote:37j0ga18]

True.

I meant in the context of both this team, and the fact that Hunt has enough ball playing experience relative to Gillett, and anyone else we have given Locky's absence.

Also, I think it makes sense to minimise the restrictions on our bench by playing 2 hookers. At this stage of the season, when it gets particularly taxing on the big guys, another forward on the bench seems smarter than a little guy.

IMO, there is no longer any need to have Hunt on the bench.

Further, much as i like Norman, I'd prefer Wallace at 6 than anyone else in that vitally critical position, and I'd rather Hunt at 7 than Norman in the halves ATM

 

[Jeba]

I would not be at all surprised to see a shuffle like that rna.

Wallace to 5/8th
Hunt to halfback
Te'o to back row
Gillett to bench
Norman dropped
Either of Kenny, Anderson or McGuire to start.