Ivan, Ivan, Ivan

[tkday]

Nashy nashy, you're so full of trashy! [icon_shru

 

[Nashy]

That makes sense...

 

[Huge]

Who will be first to post ??? It's coming so who will say it first...lol.....not that missing the semis won't make me puke...but...will it come down to beating Canberra at home or will it be over by then ????

 

[Bucking Beads]

Ivan has done well to get us where we are, missing the semi's had to happen one year.

 

[Kimlo]

Why is everyone so confident that we will miss the finals? We are actually a chance of making it even if we don't win another game and we are virtually certain to make the finals if we win 1 out of the last 2 games.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Why is everyone so confident that we will miss the finals? We are actually a chance of making it even if we don't win another game and we are virtually certain to make the finals if we win 1 out of the last 2 games.

I do it because I am comfortable with missing them and really think we should miss them this year. Give the boys more of a reason to fire up for next year. Also I thinK the team and Ivan would learn more from not making the finals.

 

[Porthoz]

Why is everyone so confident that we will miss the finals? We are actually a chance of making it even if we don't win another game and we are virtually certain to make the finals if we win 1 out of the last 2 games.

I do it because I am comfortable with missing them and really think we should miss them this year. Give the boys more of a reason to fire up for next year. Also I thinK the team and Ivan would learn more from not making the finals.

I know where you're getting at, but I disagree. (as usual [icon_lol1. )

It would be very good for many of the kids in the team to experience finals footy and understand what it's about.
I'm also sortta happy they're faltering at the moment, at the same time as other teams get more desperate, as it's the only way they will understand that there is no such thing as "cruise control" in this comp, especially at the business end of it!

We'll certainly need heaps of desperation with or without Locky next Friday at Mt Smart!

 

[Kimlo]

Why is everyone so confident that we will miss the finals? We are actually a chance of making it even if we don't win another game and we are virtually certain to make the finals if we win 1 out of the last 2 games.

I do it because I am comfortable with missing them and really think we should miss them this year. Give the boys more of a reason to fire up for next year. Also I thinK the team and Ivan would learn more from not making the finals.

I can see both sides to this. One part of me wants us to miss the finals so we finally address the real issues we have, for one WRAP UP THE BALL! FFS I don't know why we can't learn that one at least. It would be a real wake up call missing the finals.

BUT IMO next year we are a real chance at winning it with Hannant+Inglis coming down. The young guys getting more finals experience will really be useful come finals time next year and I don't want our finals streak to go.

 

[tallis12]

Dont talk about next year !!

We are still a chance at being grand finalists of 2010.

Cmon boys bring it home !! :mrgreen:

 

[Jeba]

Oh please. In what way is missing the finals a good thing?

Plenty said last year that they hope we miss the finals, we ended up going within 1 win from the Grand Final.

 

[The Brizz]

Oh please. In what way is missing the finals a good thing?

Plenty said last year that they hope we miss the finals, we ended up going within 1 win from the Grand Final.

I agree with the notion of missing the finals is a good thing "IF" by making the finals Henjak is lauded as doing a very good job this year and the massive long winded problems we have in defense are not addressed.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Oh please. In what way is missing the finals a good thing?

Plenty said last year that they hope we miss the finals, we ended up going within 1 win from the Grand Final.

I agree with the notion of missing the finals is a good thing "IF" by making the finals Henjak is lauded as doing a very good job this year and the massive long winded problems we have in defense are not addressed.

well you would think if we miss the finals, more pressure will be on Ivan and he will work harder to fix our defence and some attacking structure to help us cope without Locky

 

[rnabokov]

Making the finals is important for a number of reasons.

1. It preserves the team's proud record;

2. It gives the young players more experience in the games that really matter;

3. It shows the team can do it in spite of Ivan, despite Ivan's best efforts to prevent it happening.

The bad is that Ivan's ego inflates further.

 

[Kimlo]

Making the finals is important for a number of reasons.
3. It shows the team can do it in spite of Ivan, despite Ivan's best efforts to prevent it happening.

The bad is that Ivan's ego inflates further.

Ah get off it! Ivan does make some mistakes, by his own admission even but he's doing everything he possibly can to get us to be a successful team. It's just as much the playing groups fault as the coach, let us not deny that. The group that go out there and don't put in the effort to run that extra distance to make the tackle or stop an offload share the blame.

I'm sick of fans blaming the coach for losses and giving the players all the credit for wins. I don't think Ivan's the best coach but he's the best available option for our club. I scratch my head at some of shit decisions he makes sometimes but since he's come on as coach he's done a fair job.

 

[The Brizz]

Making the finals is important for a number of reasons.
3. It shows the team can do it in spite of Ivan, despite Ivan's best efforts to prevent it happening.

The bad is that Ivan's ego inflates further.

Ah get off it! Ivan does make some mistakes, by his own admission even but he's doing everything he possibly can to get us to be a successful team. It's just as much the playing groups fault as the coach, let us not deny that. The group that go out there and don't put in the effort to run that extra distance to make the tackle or stop an offload share the blame.

I'm sick of fans blaming the coach for losses and giving the players all the credit for wins. I don't think Ivan's the best coach but he's the best available option for our club. I scratch my head at some of shit decisions he makes sometimes but since he's come on as coach he's done a fair job.

So it isn't the coaches fault that we have used the same retarded structures in defense since about 1995 that allow teams to make 60m a set as well as get repeated offloads away?

 

[Ffs...]

We have a young squad. Players don't toughen up mentally until they reach at least their early 20's.

Defence isn't just about coaching or plans, it's about effort, and in our case most importantly, confidence.

I still think IH is an excellent coach. I'm looking forward to see how we go with some stability over the next 3 years. Sure hope the whiny peanut gallery doesn't get int he way of what we are creating.

 

[rnabokov]

Making the finals is important for a number of reasons.
3. It shows the team can do it in spite of Ivan, despite Ivan's best efforts to prevent it happening.

The bad is that Ivan's ego inflates further.

Ah get off it! Ivan does make some mistakes, by his own admission even but he's doing everything he possibly can to get us to be a successful team. It's just as much the playing groups fault as the coach, let us not deny that. The group that go out there and don't put in the effort to run that extra distance to make the tackle or stop an offload share the blame.

I'm sick of fans blaming the coach for losses and giving the players all the credit for wins. I don't think Ivan's the best coach but he's the best available option for our club. I scratch my head at some of shit decisions he makes sometimes but since he's come on as coach he's done a fair job.

So your analysis of the role of the coach apply equally to the Socceroos?

Sorry. I thought the general and not the troops was accountable for strategy and tactics.

In any case, the effort's there.

 

[Huge]

We have a young squad. Players don't toughen up mentally until they reach at least their early 20's.

Defence isn't just about coaching or plans, it's about effort, and in our case most importantly, confidence.

I still think IH is an excellent coach. I'm looking forward to see how we go with some stability over the next 3 years. Sure hope the whiny peanut gallery doesn't get int he way of what we are creating.

Just for the record Ffs, what exactly is it that we(IH?Broncs) are creating ???

A successful team playing semi final football ??

A stable well drilled team

Kinda makes you wonder don't it....?? I could of sworn that's what we had BEFORE we lost Wayne Bennett !