OFFICIAL Jack Bird goes down

Kyall

NRL Player
2,399
874
It's not even round I yet can't they have it possibley repaired in like 3 or 4 months like Boyd and Macca did.
 

Foordy

International Rep
Staff
19,188
10,708
Are you special? i don't give a flying fat **** when he signed the contract. If you cant run, you cant play. I am not saying he should retire under his latest injury, i am saying at what point does a guy retire because he cant play football anymore due to a lifelong medical condition and repeated injuries.
His condition will only get worse.
Repeated injuries will exacerbate the condition.
If he cant run, he cant play.

Got it? good!
you're obviously to foolish to understand, so i'll try to spell this out for you once again slowly ...

you are talking about a "medical retirement" ... so while you may not care about when he signed his last contract ... the NRL do and that's all that fucking matters.

so that makes any arthritis that he may or may not have ineligible to be used as a basis for a medical retirement ... leaving only an ACL injury to consider, an injury that will never, be deemed career ending for a player in their 20's

the other thing that you can't seem to get through your thick skull is that JACK BIRD DOES NOT WANT TO RETIRE ... so it doesn't matter whether YOU want him to or not ... doesn't even matter if the club want's him to ... he will be here in 2021 fucking deal with it
 

Foordy

International Rep
Staff
19,188
10,708
Can't we go for salary cap relief like bulldogs did for Forans injuries?
unlikely ... Foran injured his shoulder playing a rep game, which is why the Bulldogs got the cap relief, Bird did his in training

The Bulldogs also only got 350k cap relief (Foran is on around $1 million) lol
 

john1420

NRL Player
It doesn't speed up the onset, it reduces recovery.
His arthritis causes inflammation in the joints.
This inflammation reduces mobility and can degrade the bones and ligaments in the joints.
- Merged


Simple concept? Repeated ACL dmg compounded by a lifelong arthritic condition? Possbile grounds for medical retirement looking at past examples like Inglis and Burgess?
Real simple dickhead.
Calm down Midean, you are the one who is missing the simple concepts here, and there's no need to call B4L a dickhead just for trying to explain the obvious to you
 

Tom

State of Origin Captain
8,331
8,059
Could a medical retirement be on the cards anyway? Jack might want to play on but it only happened yesterday. What if 4 months from now doctors tell him RL is a no-go?
 

Midean

QCup Player
352
304
NSW
Could a medical retirement be on the cards anyway? Jack might want to play on but it only happened yesterday. What if 4 months from now doctors tell him RL is a no-go?
This is what i was getting at.
Of course Bird doesn't want to retire. He may not have a choice.
It has nothing to do with when he signed a contract, when he first got injured or anything like that.
But if his knee is shot, and he cant run, that will be grounds for a medical retirement regardless if Foordy can grasp this concept or not.
- Merged

Calm down Midean, you are the one who is missing the simple concepts here, and there's no need to call B4L a dickhead just for trying to explain the obvious to you
If the shoe fits. And again, there is nothing simple with this Injury, that can be potentially career ending, depending on the outcome of the rehab and the impact his arthritis has on his recovery.
 
Last edited:

Foordy

International Rep
Staff
19,188
10,708
Could a medical retirement be on the cards anyway? Jack might want to play on but it only happened yesterday. What if 4 months from now doctors tell him RL is a no-go?
unlikely with an ACL ... they'll just build him a new knee and he'll be good to go in 12 months time ...
 

Midean

QCup Player
352
304
NSW
So simple right fellas?
Here is a list of examples Of early retirement due to injuries of Birds kind.
Ben Creagh - forced to retire due to chronic knee injury.
Nik Kosef - forced to retire due to repeated knee recons.
Anthony Watmough - forced to retire due to repeated knee injury.
Kyle Stanley - repeated knee recons forced early retirement.
Just to name a few who had careers cut short for the most part due to repeated knee injuries, and none of these blokes had Rheumatoid Arthritis.

So its entirely possible for Bird to be medically retired by a doctor, regardless if he wants to play on or not.
 
Last edited:

Foordy

International Rep
Staff
19,188
10,708
So simple right fellas?
Here is a list of examples Of early retirement due to injuries of Birds kind.
Ben Creagh - forced to retire due to chronic knee injury.
Nik Kosef - forced to retire due to repeated knee recons.
Anthony Watmough - forced to retire due to repeated knee injury.
Kyle Stanley - repeated knee recons forced early retirement.
Just to name a few who had careers cut short for the most part due to repeated knee injuries, and none of these blokes had Rheumatoid Arthritis.

So its entirely possible for Bird to be medically retired by a doctor, regardless if he wants to play on or not.
everyone of them had to agree to retire ...
 

Midean

QCup Player
352
304
NSW
everyone of them had to agree to retire ...
Right, after being told by medical professionals that they wont be able to play.
Its semantics at that point.
They could scream till they are blue in the face that they dont want to retire, but if they cant fucking run, they cant fucking play.
These are all examples of medical retirements.
You literally said its impossible for Bird to be medically retired, which is 100% wrong.
 

ostin86

QCup Player
861
994
I would say there is a good chance that this will be an interrupted season due to covoid-19. The NBA season has now been suspended officially.
 

soup

State of Origin Captain
8,570
6,242
T’ba
I would say there is a good chance that this will be an interrupted season due to covoid-19. The NBA season has now been suspended officially.
Probably expecting too much of the NRL tbh. Comparing it to the most professionally run sport competition in the world (NBA) is wishful thinking.
 

Wolfie

State of Origin Captain
8,406
7,406
This is what i was getting at.
Of course Bird doesn't want to retire. He may not have a choice.
It has nothing to do with when he signed a contract, when he first got injured or anything like that.
But if his knee is shot, and he cant run, that will be grounds for a medical retirement regardless if Foordy can grasp this concept or not.
- Merged


If the shoe fits. And again, there is nothing simple with this Injury, that can be potentially career ending, depending on the outcome of the rehab and the impact his arthritis has on his recovery.
How bad is his Arthritis? Just because he has it, doesnt mean its severe. He was getting the fortnightly injections at Cronulla ( probably Humira, which is the most common medication for it ) and they pretty much stopped it being an issue. They are so effective it caused his symptoms to disappear. People are jumping the gun blaming his arthritis issue without knowing the severity of it. I doubt its having much of an impact tbh on his ligaments, but we just dont know. They will either find something when they do the surgery, or something will appear in his rehab period. The other option is he just makes a full recovery.
 

Midean

QCup Player
352
304
NSW
How bad is his Arthritis? Just because he has it, doesnt mean its severe. He was getting the fortnightly injections at Cronulla ( probably Humira, which is the most common medication for it ) and they pretty much stopped it being an issue. They are so effective it caused his symptoms to disappear. People are jumping the gun blaming his arthritis issue without knowing the severity of it. I doubt its having much of an impact tbh on his ligaments, but we just dont know. They will either find something when they do the surgery, or something will appear in his rehab period. The other option is he just makes a full recovery.
Honestly im not sure how bad it is, all i know is its lifelong and gets progressively worse even with treatment.
 

Purple Pills

QCup Player
621
1,257
Honestly im not sure how bad it is, all i know is its lifelong and gets progressively worse even with treatment.
My mother in law who lives with us has RA as well. She was on the humira but it pretty much caused her to lose all sense of taste and smell and has only started to come back after going on a different medication.

Not sure how severe Jack’s RA is or whether there is any link to any of his injuries but one thing is for sure that it sure as **** wouldn’t help.

I actually remember when he first came to the club and his story came out about his RA and my first thought was ‘**** me I hope the club has done its due diligence on giving him a rich long term contract knowing their maybe risks associated with his condition”

Be interesting to see what his rheumatologist thinks about all of this.
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create free account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Login or Register

Forgot your password?
Don't have an account? Register now

Forum statistics

Threads
17,014
Messages
958,189
Members
2,281
Latest member
JulietaRai

Members online

Twitter

Top