Josh McGuire signs with Cowboys - Immediate Switch

[broncos4life]

It’s exactly what the tigers did with woods Tedesco brooks and Moses and how did that work out for them? We are paying these kids way overs based off a few games against kids in their own age group. We just moved on the current Australian lock, not a shit kicker to accomodate these younger players. Why the **** are we entering a rebuild now when blind Freddy can see we are one player away from a premiership - a halfback

Da Fuq? We are not rebuilding, we have lost a forward that was on the other side of his best and have a some of the best forwards in the game that we need to find positions for.

 

[Cult]

Da Fuq? We are not rebuilding, we have lost a forward that was on the other side of his best and have a some of the best forwards in the game that we need to find positions for.

The young players aren’t close to being the best forwards in the game yet though. They’re well on their way to becoming that and I hope it happens soon but if like others have said, we are waiting for these guys to peak then we probably are in a bit of a rebuild. Especially with a new coach incoming and the possibility of senior players leaving.

Teams with the experience we will have next year don’t win premierships. Yet

 

[Cult]

Hopefully blokes like Alfie and Lockyer are around the players often enough to instil the old culture we need to bring back. Seibold bring Ben Cross as an assistant doesn’t give me much confidence

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Hopefully blokes like Alfie and Lockyer are around the players often enough to instil the old culture we need to bring back. Seibold bring Ben Cross as an assistant doesn’t give me much confidence

Personally I hope Alex Glenn stays a bronco because he really deserves a premiership for his whole hearted efforts every week. He never seeks the limelight and never seeks the mega bucks for the efforts he puts in. What a great role model he would be for the next generation of young colts coming through. But if he goes I hope the titans pay him overs and then some more.

 

[mitch222]

Da Fuq? We are not rebuilding, we have lost a forward that was on the other side of his best and have a some of the best forwards in the game that we need to find positions for.

We just lost the current Australian lock
How many teams just let their internationals walk mid contract? It’s a backward step for next year not a forward step. Move that player on when he stops becoming the Australian lock not when he still is especially when your effectively moving him on to pay for overinflated juniors salaries. For every Ponga there is three karlos filligas. They aren’t all going to superstars

 

[Battler]

We just lost the current Australian lock
How many teams just let their internationals walk mid contract? It’s a backward step for next year not a forward step. Move that player on when he stops becoming the Australian lock not when he still is especially when your effectively moving him on to pay for overinflated juniors salaries. For every Ponga there is three karlos filligas. They aren’t all going to superstars

Manly let Watmough walk and it didn't hurt them (although they went backwards for different reasons). They also let Glenn Stewart go when he was getting on. Watmough and Stewart are proof that you can go from being one of the best in the comp as a forward to bang average/ shit in the space of an off season. McGuire is reaching that sort of age and showing worrying signs form wise.

EDIT: Melbourne with Hoffman when the Warriors offered huge dollars is another off the top of my head and that didn't hurt them.

 

[Kyall]

It would be great if all this player movements are so we can sign Cook.

 

[Cult]

It would be great if all this player movements are so we can sign Cook.

We need a halfback. That’s it. An ok halfback would win us a premiership next year but you’d prefer a hooker?

 

[Gaz]

We just lost the current Australian lock
How many teams just let their internationals walk mid contract? It’s a backward step for next year not a forward step. Move that player on when he stops becoming the Australian lock not when he still is especially when your effectively moving him on to pay for overinflated juniors salaries. For every Ponga there is three karlos filligas. They aren’t all going to superstars

The current Australian lock had a remaining two year contract now he has a four year contract. With a wealth of young up and comers if he remained it’s not hard to see why he chose to move on. Nothing sinister to see here.

 

[Morkel]

Manly let Watmough walk and it didn't hurt them (although they went backwards for different reasons). They also let Glenn Stewart go when he was getting on. Watmough and Stewart are proof that you can go from being one of the best in the comp as a forward to bang average/ shit in the space of an off season. McGuire is reaching that sort of age and showing worrying signs form wise.

EDIT: Melbourne with Hoffman when the Warriors offered huge dollars is another off the top of my head and that didn't hurt them.

Roosters / Guerra another example.

 

[Gaz]

Six reasons why the Broncos will be fine if they let Josh McGuire and Alex Glenn walk
The Broncos are reportedly set to move on two of their most loyal servants in Josh McGuire and Alex Glenn to build their pack around a plethora of young stars.
However, when you consider the ages and potential of the young forwards the Broncos have on their books, the simple fact is the club can’t keep them all.
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McGuire and Glenn are at the back end of their careers, while the Broncos have a number of exciting prospects between the ages of 18 and 23 that can take the club into the future.
When you consider the impact the Broncos’ young brigade have had already in their short time in the NRL system, it is little wonder the club is willing to put their faith in youth over
Tevita Pangai Jr (unsigned)
Pangai Jr is only 22 and is on the cusp of something special.
He has scored seven tries in 54 games since debuting for the Broncos in 2016.
The destructive ball-runner and brutal defender has already played four Tests for Tonga and starred against the Kangaroos in October.
Pangai Jr is expected to push for a spot in Brad Fittler’s NSW Blues team next season and he has a long representative career for state and country ahead of him.
While he is expected to sign a one-year deal with the Broncos, before possibly joining Wayne Bennett at South Sydney in 2020, Brisbane will do everything in their power to convince him to stay.
Joe Ofahengaue (signed until 2019)
Still only 23, Ofahengaue has scored five tries in an impressive tally of 70 games for Brisbane since his debut in 2015.
Last season was his most consistent for the Broncos, with the talented back-rower scoring three tries in 24 games.
Ofahengaue has already played five Tests for his native Tonga and is eligible to play for Kevin Walters’ Maroons in 2019.
The nephew of Wallabies legend Willie Ofahengaue will only become more expensive for the Broncos to keep as his representative career develops.
David Fifita (signed until 2020)
Fifita became the first player born in the 2000s to play in the NRL when he made his debut against the Raiders in Round 16 of the 2018 season.
Fifita has scored two tries in 11 appearances for the Broncos and has already played finals football at the tender age of 18.
The fact Fifita is competing in one of the most physically demanding positions in the NRL at such a young age is testament to his potential and maturity.
Wayne Bennett does not let players play first grade let alone finals until they are ready and Fifita has shown he has all the ingredients to dominate the NRL in years to come.
Payne Haas (signed until 2024)
The second Broncos’ powerhouse to debut as an 18-year-old this year, Haas came into first grade with some huge raps on him.
An allumini of the famed Keebra Park nursery, Haas ran out for his first game of first grade against South Sydney in Round 8 of the 2018 season.
Phil Gould remarked at the time that the game had ‘just witnessed the birth of a superstar’.
Despite his debut season being cut short by a shoulder injury after just three games, the Broncos tied him up on a lucrative six-year contract that trumped Kalyn Ponga’s monster deal with the Knights.
Jaydn Su’A (signed until 2020)
The 21-year-old also debuted for the Broncos at the age of 18 back in 2016, but he came of age in 2018.
Another of the Broncos’ young second-rowers, Su’A played 15 games for the club and scored his maiden try in first grade.
Su’A represented the Junior Kangaroos and was man of the match in their win over the Junior Kiwis back in 2016.
The former captain of the Queensland under-20s team is tipped to come into calculations for Origin representation in 2018 and will have his eye on his senior Kangaroos debut in coming seasons.
Patrick Carrigan (signed until 2019)
While he is yet to make his NRL debut, 20-year-old Carrigan is tipped for a big future for the Broncos.
The versatile prop captained the Queensland under-20s in 2018 and is tipped to play for the Maroons in the coming years.
Carrigan is set to make his NRL debut in 2019 and will strengthen the Broncos’ front-row stocks after Korbin Sims left to join the Dragons.
Carrigan is signed until the end of the 2019 season and the Broncos will be looking to lock him up long term as he continues his development.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...k/news-story/3f12d58d43df7775ac7f9f62789ab757

 

[M.B.88]

You've got your analogy backwards. In fact, Whitchurch was the example I was going to give you. If Haas is better than Carrigan because he's played 30 minutes more NRL, Whitchurch must be WAY better than Haas.

But haas single handedly turned a match in the 10mins he was out there for, made every tackle in a set, took every second hit up AND picked up a dude and drove him back almost 30m into the in goal for a drop out.

Whitchurch looked promising to the greatest ever coach with the most experience reading NRL players and their talent and decided to put him in at top grade. He too single handedly changed the course of his few matches because it seemed he was only playing quite literally, single handedly.

I'm all for hoping young talent produces. But we can't start making certainties on players' potential as an NRL player since they've never played NRL

 

[Bongo]

If McGuire and Glenn go we still have to fill their places in the 30. I presume Tagataese takes one spot. Not sure who takes the other.

 

[Dash]

But haas single handedly turned a match in the 10mins he was out there for, made every tackle in a set, took every second hit up AND picked up a dude and drove him back almost 30m into the in goal for a drop out.

Whitchurch looked promising to the greatest ever coach with the most experience reading NRL players and their talent and decided to put him in at top grade. He too single handedly changed the course of his few matches because it seemed he was only playing quite literally, single handedly.

I'm all for hoping young talent produces. But we can't start making certainties on players' potential as an NRL player since they've never played NRL

Exaggerations of Haas' exploits aside, I agree with your overall point, but you can't make certainties about Haas and then discount Carrigan's chances. Literally the only thing separating them is 30 minutes of NRL time. As far as I'm concerned they're in the exact same boat. Both could be stars, both could be serviceable, both could be failures.

 

[MagicMan87]

Personally I hope Alex Glenn stays a bronco because he really deserves a premiership for his whole hearted efforts every week. He never seeks the limelight and never seeks the mega bucks for the efforts he puts in. What a great role model he would be for the next generation of young colts coming through. But if he goes I hope the titans pay him overs and then some more.

Only reason I can see Glenn being let go is maybe the cultural thing that has came up about him every now and then and creating a divide between the kiwi boys and the rest. Otherwise can’t see why they would let him walk.

 

[Wolfie]

Only reason I can see Glenn being let go is maybe the cultural thing that has came up about him every now and then and creating a divide between the kiwi boys and the rest. Otherwise can’t see why they would let him walk.

There is already a divide at the Broncos anyway in the playing group, but its not one of these situations where the players dont get along, they just hang in different groups. Glenn is hugely popular and respected, be interested to know what the cultural thing is thats came up about Glenn.

 

[I bleed Maroon]

If McGuire and Glenn go we still have to fill their places in the 30. I presume Tagataese takes one spot. Not sure who takes the other.

Turpin. He wasn't there when the squad was revealed earlier in the month

 

[theshed]

There is already a divide at the Broncos anyway in the playing group, but its not one of these situations where the players dont get along, they just hang in different groups. Glenn is hugely popular and respected, be interested to know what the cultural thing is thats came up about Glenn.

A couple seasons ago there was bit of speculation of a rift between the kiwi boys and the rest of the team. I think it was guys like Glenn, Kahu, Beale etc were cliquey and there was some animosity at the club because of it. Glenn seemed to be painted as the main cause of it for some reason.

That was the media beat up and forum speculation anyway. Though it did pop up a few times and was pretty long lived so it may have some truth. I find it hard to believe though because Glenn seriously seems like the friendliest guy in rugby league.