[Official] - Milford signs with Broncos

[Manbush]

Bushy - From my experience, not really.

The 'neutral' fans either don't care or they're divided. Even then, if you take a general League forum, usually the neutrals weighing in are those with a well established agenda.

When it comes to the Broncos though are there actually any neutral fans, they are both the most supported and the most hated club in the NRL. That's why I'm not as certain as all here are that the general consensus in league will be anti Raiders and pro Milford/Broncos in this scenario.

 

[Manbush]

adgfnk - find another club - we are looking for new members

I'm sure the GH wouldn't mind this deal:laugh:

 

[Big Pete]

It's difficult to really gauge but if it's presented in the light of the Raiders refusing to release a 19 year old rookie from his final year at contract to be by his sick father's side won't win you any support. At least, support that wasn't already there from the outset.

 

[kingpest]

More hated than manly? Massive call

 

[Manbush]

It's difficult to really gauge but if it's presented in the light of the Raiders refusing to release a 19 year old rookie from his final year at contract to be by his sick father's side won't win you any support. At least, support that wasn't already there from the outset.

True but if the Raiders want to play dirty they can point out all the known lies that have been told regarding his health. Hindy, Matty Johns and Geyer would all be aware of the health issues and hasn't swayed their views. Does exaggerating the sympathy card win or lose support on issues?

 

[Big Pete]

I don't know if that will achieve the outcome the Raiders will hope it will and unless they can amount a concrete case I can see it backfiring.

Matty Johns, MG...who's next in the 'neutral' stakes? Brandy Alexander? Paul Vautin? Gus?

 

[Socnorb]

True but if the Raiders want to play dirty they can point out all the known lies that have been told regarding his health. Hindy, Matty Johns and Geyer would all be aware of the health issues and hasn't swayed their views. Does exaggerating the sympathy card win or lose support on issues?

What do you actually know about the mans health? You seem happy to speculate that there is some sort of conspiracy against the Raiders and conclude that there he is faking as it suits your narrative. But as usual you actually know nothing.

 

[Porthoz]

True but if the Raiders want to play dirty they can point out all the known lies that have been told regarding his health. Hindy, Matty Johns and Geyer would all be aware of the health issues and hasn't swayed their views. Does exaggerating the sympathy card win or lose support on issues?

None of them actually took the clause into account. They're all pretending it doesn't even exist, which makes them intellectually dishonest. Only persons with an actual knowledge of this clause can take an educated stance.

KNOWN FACTS:
- Milford signed signed the existing extension under the condition this clause be inserted. He would otherwise not be at the club!
- Milford's parents are unwilling to move to Canberra and he wants to be near them, regardless whether his father's condition has improved or not.
- Milford will play for Brisbane for less money than was offered to him by Canberra. (ouch Bushy, that one must have hurt)
- Canberra is throwing a tantrum and stomping their feet at the only player that didn't act like an idiot and respected the jersey he wore until the last game, while letting Carney, Dugan and Fergo get away with unacceptable behavior.
- Despite all the noise, there is absolutely not a single shred of proof that the Broncos acted untoward, even if they negotiated with Anthony prior to the 1st of November.

Sure, the Raiders are gonna come out of this smelling like roses... :laugh:

 

[Sproj]

Where am I

Some call it paradise, others heaven. Some suggest utopia and still more say it is the holy grail. Whatever you call it, this place is that wonderful place dreams are made of.

 

[Manbush]

What do you actually know about the mans health? You seem happy to speculate that there is some sort of conspiracy against the Raiders and conclude that there he is faking as it suits your narrative. But as usual you actually know nothing.

What do I know.

It was reported he was too ill to travel. Later revealed he had been traveling regularly to Canberra

Reported too ill to move before Milf revealed they just didn't want to after visiting Canberra.

Milf himself has admitted Halo is improving and is better than was expected to be at this point in time.

Im not saying he's 100% healthy but it is obvious his health has been exaggerated for an agenda.

 

[papabear]

None of them actually took the clause into account. They're all pretending it doesn't even exist, which makes them intellectually dishonest. Only persons with an actual knowledge of this clause can take an educated stance.

KNOWN FACTS:
- Milford signed signed the existing extension under the condition this clause be inserted. He would otherwise not be at the club!
- Milford's parents are unwilling to move to Canberra and he wants to be near them, regardless whether his father's condition has improved or not.
- Milford will play for Brisbane for less money than was offered to him by Canberra. (ouch Bushy, that one must have hurt)
- Canberra is throwing a tantrum and stomping their feet at the only player that didn't act like an idiot and respected the jersey he wore until the last game, while letting Carney, Dugan and Fergo get away with unacceptable behavior.
- Despite all the noise, there is absolutely not a single shred of proof that the Broncos acted untoward, even if they negotiated with Anthony prior to the 1st of November.

Sure, the Raiders are gonna come out of this smelling like roses... :laugh:

- how is it known that Milford wouldn't have resigned with the raiders with out that clause, that is not known fact that is speculation. Be reasonable here.
- I haven't heard that frm Milford's parents but ok.
- less money under the cap. every man and his dog knows that he is going to be fixed up with the third party deals which the broncos can offer that the raiders can't. Not having a dig at the broncs for doing it , I wish the raiders could. But let's not be naive.
- Fergo played great in his last games for us, I liked carney at the end too. If your pointing out that Milford doesn't have disciplinary issues, you only need to look at Gagai before you think of glass houses. Though I agree that we are in the poopoo in this regard, the question is whether broncs should be slinging it at us.
- I'm sure there is lots of proof, but I agree that no one here has it. Who really cares about that garbage anyways.

point is don't preface a post with known facts and then fill it with opinion.

again the raiders look fine, news limited is having a fair dig, but they own the broncos and what milf for 2014, so their opinion on the subject is hardly valid.

in fact if you want to look at reputation having your club being owned by a company that writes negative stuff on the game and other club does a lot more damage to the reputation of any club or rugby league then a little too and fro over Milford.

afgntk - I highly respect his opinion, IMO he is valued at thegh, just becoz a few of the noisy people don't like hearing some of the stuff he has to say because it challenges their view on things doesn't change his stature at thegh.

I am sure all clubs forums could do with blokes like him.

 

[Sproj]

Ok that post was hard to understand in places but what the hell??? Papabear just made sense!!!

 

[Waynesaurus]

Can anybody remember if Gordy trained with the Broncs when he sat a year out?

 

[Socnorb]

What do I know.

It was reported he was too ill to travel. Later revealed he had been traveling regularly to Canberra

Reported too ill to move before Milf revealed they just didn't want to after visiting Canberra.

Milf himself has admitted Halo is improving and is better than was expected to be at this point in time.

Im not saying he's 100% healthy but it is obvious his health has been exaggerated for an agenda.

As I said you gave no insight into Milford's dad's health. You only have an agenda. So constantly bringing it up makes you appear like a halfwit. I'm pretty sure you're not but I'm equally sure you're not Halo consulting physician.

 

[Alec]

"Agenda", there's that infamous classic BHQ word.

 

[Thibaùlt]

What do Ayoub and Milford have to lose from taking it to court or the NRL?

They lose the case, and end up in the same position they are now.

They win, and Milford plays for us in 2014, A team he actually wants to play for.

Ricky Stuart really is a walking contradiction.

 

[Porthoz]

- how is it known that Milford wouldn't have resigned with the raiders with out that clause, that is not known fact that is speculation. Be reasonable here.

At the time it was certainly mentioned, and again at the start of this whole saga. Why do you think the clause is there in the first place? Just because you don't want to believe it, doesn't make it true!

- I haven't heard that frm Milford's parents but ok.

Oh, you haven't heard. In that case, I'm sorry... It mustn't be true. :rolleyes:

- less money under the cap. every man and his dog knows that he is going to be fixed up with the third party deals which the broncos can offer that the raiders can't. Not having a dig at the broncs for doing it , I wish the raiders could. But let's not be naive.

Now, that is assumption, not fact. I'm only going with what has been published and is verifiable.

- Fergo played great in his last games for us, I liked carney at the end too. If your pointing out that Milford doesn't have disciplinary issues, you only need to look at Gagai before you think of glass houses. Though I agree that we are in the poopoo in this regard, the question is whether broncs should be slinging it at us.

This is not about slinging anything, it's about the FACT that Carney, Dugan and Fergo's behavior towards the club was far worse than what Anthony has ever done, but he's the one the Raiders chose to make an example from.
As to glass roofs mate, no one can seriously compete with Canberra. From Carney's antics, passing by Monaghan's dog, Dugan's cruisers to Fergo's disappearance, you almost have a monopoly!

- I'm sure there is lots of proof, but I agree that no one here has it. Who really cares about that garbage anyways.
point is don't preface a post with known facts and then fill it with opinion.

So I'm the one accused of posting opinions instead of facts uh? LOL

At least I can back up each and everyone of my statements with verifiable sources, what are yours, if not speculation?

again the raiders look fine, news limited is having a fair dig, but they won the broncos and what milf for 2014, so their opinion on the subject is hardly valid.

in fact if you want to look at reputation having your club being owned by a company that writes negative stuff on the game and other club dies a lot more damage to the reputation of any club or rugby league then a little too and fro over Milford.

I wasn't talking about what the Courier Mail or Canberra Times write, albeit they will certainly have some influence. It's about the image that the Raiders will have to the general League community and its stake holders. Another thing I am curious about, given the form of Don Furner with player contracts (remember Dayne Weston?), let's see what other players, especially those from the same background as Milford will think of all this...

afgntk - I highly respect his opinion, IMO he is valued at thegh, just becoz a few of the noisy people don't like hearing some of the stuff he has to say because it challenges their view on things doesn't change his stature at thegh.

I am sure all clubs forums could do with blokes like him.

I don't know afgntk, but he seems to think for himself, not just tow the "party line", in the same way Worm does. In FACT, most of the Raiders fans on BHQ seem to have a semblance of a brain, even if some are a little deluded! :aetsch:

 

[Coxy]

TLDR for anyone in this thread:
Raiders are *****.