Origin Scheduling is a joke and a blight to the game.

[Mr Fourex]

If Origin wasn't played on Wednesday night none of them would have to back up 2 days later.. Pretty obvious as to why it is Origin's fault.

If Thaiday wasn't already carrying an injury and Hodges didn't have his horrendous history with injuries and if Petero wasn't 36 .....they could have backed up

JUST like the Storms big three did.

 

[Kimlo]

If Thaiday wasn't already carrying an injury and Hodges didn't have his horrendous history with injuries and if Petero wasn't 36 .....they could have backed up

JUST like the Storms big three did.

But they couldn't play that game due to origin. Regardless of what their injury status is, if origin wasn't on that week they would have played.

 

[Mr Fourex]

But Melbourne played their players.......?

 

[Bucking Beads]

But Melbourne played their players.......?

Were they carrying injuries?

 

[Kimlo]

But Melbourne played their players.......?

Because they're fortunate enough that their players are physically able to backup two days later, we don't have that luxury with Thaiday, Hodges and Civo.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Because they're fortunate enough that their players are physically able to backup two days later, we don't have that luxury with Thaiday, Hodges and Civo.

Exactly.....so it's an issue that runs deeper than simply blaming SOO.

 

[Culhwch]

The States will want longer than 7 days to prepare particularly the state that is travelling. It quite often takes until Tuesday or Wednesday after the Sunday game before all players are cleared so teams will have preparation time cut to a minimum so I can see players being asked or forced not to play for their clubs the weekend prior to the first Origin.

They're introducing Thursday night games this year, so why not schedule the teams with the traditionally heaviest rep contingent to play Thursday and Friday night. Name the teams in advance of the round, even if it means naming a twenty-man squad - Queensland already take nineteen men in anyway. No Monday night that round and you could have the bulk if not all players cleared and in camp Sunday night. That's six full days of prep. Currently the Queensland team is named the Tuesday before the game - correct me if I'm wrong, but that means they only have seven full days before game day, just one extra.

Besides, as Coxy said, it worked in 2001.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Exactly.....so it's an issue that runs deeper than simply blaming SOO.

Please explain to me when any player would need to back up 2 days after a game other than in Origin time??? The issue is that no player should have to back up 2 days after Origin. :glare:

 

[Mr Fourex]

They're introducing Thursday night games this year, so why not schedule the teams with the traditionally heaviest rep contingent to play Thursday and Friday night.

Aren't Brisbane playing most Friday nights as it is...?

 

[Coxy]

But Melbourne played their players.......?

 

[Culhwch]

Please explain to me when any player would need to back up 2 days after a game other then in Origin time??? The issue is that no player should have to back up 2 days after Origin. :glare:

Precisely.

 

[Dexter]

Just an alternative possibility, flame away or discuss rationally.

Actual schedule and results

18-May-2012 Bye

23-May-2012 Origin1

25-May-2012 Rnd 12 Storm Friday Lost

03-June-2012 Rnd 13 Knights Sunday Won

10-June-2012 Rnd 14 Roosters Sunday Won

13-June-2012 Origin 2

15-June-2012 Rnd 15 Cows Friday Lost

22-June-2012 Rnd 16 Rabbits Friday Won

29-June-2012 Rnd 17 Sharks Friday Lost

04-July-2012 Origin 3

07-July-2012 Rnd 18 Bye

13-July-2012 Rnd 19 Warriors Friday Won

What actually happened during Origin. There were 8 rnds and we had 2 byes plus 3 wins 3 loses so 10 points from a maximum of 16 so as far as costing us too many points that is debatable but lets say 2.
The Origin players who didn't back up played 6 games including origin.

The following schedule could have been implemented without any changes to the rest of the comp. The breaks between games are longer but the origin players play 8 games in 8 weeks the same as they would if we stop the comp for 3 weeks.

Storm game gets played a week earlier both teams had byes before so no changes to the rest of the comp required. The Sharks game gets played a week later and they play the chooks in round 17 instead of us, we take the chooks bye.

18-May-2012 Rnd11 Storm all Origin players out or keep the bye here and play on the Monday night with 5 day break

23-May-2012 Origin1

25-May-2012 Rnd 12 Bye or Play Storm on the Monday night 28th

03-June-2012 Rnd 13 Knights Unchanged 11 day break

10-June-2012 Rnd 14 Roosters Unchanged 7 day break

13-June-2012 Origin 2

15-June-2012 Rnd 15 Cows Play Monday 5 day break

22-June-2012 Rnd 16 Rabbits Play Sunday 6 day break

29-June-2012 Rnd 17 Bye

04-July-2012 Origin 3

07-July-2012 Rnd 18 Sharks Play Monday 5 day break

13-July-2012 Rnd 19 Warriors Play Sunday 6 day break

 

[Mr Fourex]

Appreciate your hard work Dexter ........:thumbup1:

I read somewhere that the NRL in 2013 would endeavour to not have the same scenario happen again like the Brisbane V Storm game after SOO 1, which I will concede when you look at the players involved, was ridiculous scheduling on their behalf this year.

Like you're suggesting, perhaps they need to be a bit more flexible in their scheduling anyway. By now they should be aware of which teams supply the most players to SOO. If by chance that somehow changes during the early part of the year, is there any reason why they can't move things around a bit to suit?

Implement a rolling schedule that reflects the state of the clubs heavily involved with rep duties

and by heavily involved, I mean teams with at least more than 1 or 2 players.

 

[Porthoz]

Your schedule would've been much better for this year Dexter, but here are the facts:

- No way will Nine allow the Broncos to play the Storm or the Cowboys on a Monday!
- What if the Roosters were the team flying under the radar (like the Dogs were)? We would have played them at full strength with all our reps missing...
- There is only one Monday night game, what about the other Origin affected clubs?
- You can't have the NRL blockbusters play second fiddle to Origin. Why should a Broncos - Cowboys or a Storm - Manly be played without the Origin stars or with them backing up 2 or 3 days after such an intense game?
- Finally, as long as there are teams with a superior contingent in Origin (and that will always be the case), playing SOO on Wednesdays between NRL weekends will always give the other teams a leg up, and that will never be fair competition!

Fourex, it's the third year in a row that the Broncos play the top teams around the Origin weeks. This year it was Melbourne and Cowboys, last year it was Manly and the Dragons, the year before Manly and Cowboys, etc...
You can't just say that the Broncos have to play the crappy teams during the rep season, because every team is entitled to do it.

And please note that this has nothing to do with this year in particular, it happens EVERY year! Most times we come out of it relatively unscathed, other times like this year, we don't.
And what we certainly don't get, is a fair chance to fight for the minor premiership, or at least a top 2 or even 4 spot!

Just this season, we could've now been qualified for the finals instead of the Sharks, had we played them with our rep players. Instead we sent out a forward pack of children that was bashed out of the park by men!

 

[Dexter]

Your schedule would've been much better for this year Dexter, but here are the facts:

- No way will Nine allow the Broncos to play the Storm or the Cowboys on a Monday!
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And there is the problem with any major change, the game wants more money, the players want more money and we have to do what the boss says when it's his income that is being affected.

You're right about my schedule only being good for this year but the point is once a schedule is in place they should be able to flex it to best accommodate the teams most affected.

 

[Dexter]

Of course, let's forget that players would get over their little niggling injuries in that 3 weeks off,

It's actually a 4 week break from the last NRL game to the restart of the season.

 

[Professor47]

I said Origin scheduling wasn't the ONLY factor. I did say MAIN and perhaps that might be stretching it but you can't deny that it is not a SIGNIFICANT factor... I really think you'd be grasping at straws if you didn't think this was the case.

Furthermore, taking aside our Bronco perspective for a minute --> As I said in the OP... it is the false economy it creates that really irks me... and I just dont understand the traditionalists's view of 'this is how its always been etc etc'.... I mean seriously.. the 'dinosaur' mentality of RL is one of the biggest factors to why RL is not thriving the way it should be. The funny thing is - a lot of these traditionalists think the game is going great guns and that it is 'the best it has ever been'... don't get me wrong, credit where credit is due, we've done some great things but why does RL aim so low?... We should be 'here' --- not 'here' __ .

 

[Dexter]

And I still am of the opinion that having a 4 week gap in the middle of a season is no better than the current situation. It creates a different set of problems and there is no way CH9 or Fox will let it happen.