Round 17 Discussion

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are the commentators not allowed to say anything bad about walsh? he kicked a ball to winger on the 30 on the full and braith said it was the perfect kick

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Thought the same. He’s the pin-up boy atm, no matter how shiit he plays.

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And no sideline angle on that try wtf

Bloody oath. I was blowing up about that. How the fuk could you tell from that angle.

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[The Don]

I was going to write a big reply with a lot of detail but I will just sum it up with this....


He reminds me of Alex Glenn (That's the current one) except a slightly better defender, but that appears to be bcos he's in a far better team. He just got given a 3 year deal......

You sick bastard.

 

[Lockysillegitimatechild]

I've watched 3 games of walshs and I can safely say they would have doubled their chances of winning every single one of them with RTS at the back. His errors, he doesn't take tough runs, poor defence, always goes for the big play, doesn't support in the middle , poor under the high ball and grabbers with poor positioning as well.

 

[mrslong]

I've watched 3 games of walshs and I can safely say they would have doubled their chances of winning every single one of them with RTS at the back. His errors, he doesn't take tough runs, poor defence, always goes for the big play, doesn't support in the middle , poor under the high ball and grabbers with poor positioning as well.

they’ve robbed RTS of a finals swan song imo

 

[Big Pete]

I'm not sure if I agree, a Walsh + Tuivasa-Sheck combo looks far more threatening than a Tuivasa-Sheck + Kosi combo. Walsh didn't have his best game but it's the Warriors best interest moving forward that he gets as much experience as possible. With the second-tier competition currently off limits to NRL players it makes it a bigger headache than it ought to be.

I understand the post was largely made in response to Walsh thinking he was too good for reserve grade but I don't buy that story. He left for the money plain and simple.

 

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Any thoughts on Nathan Brown.

Thanks for Matt Lodge. What a beast.

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Yeah this. The Storm would still be trying to unscrew people's heads and dislocate their shoulders to put their opposition off, if it wasn't for the fact that they would have players suspended for doing so.

It was obvious where the pressure came from in order to end the "crackdown" (aka enforcing the rules) a few years ago. Suddenly the more successful and powerful clubs were being held to the same scrutiny as other teams because they removed the discretion from the refereeing. The Roosters had Gus as their mouthpiece and I can only assume the Storm threatened that they'd start playing AFL if they weren't allowed to go back to their cheating ways.

If you let clubs get away with it on the field but penalise them via the chequebook, there wouldn't be a single club that wouldn't just sign a blank cheque.

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For years, Gus hated the Roosters and Ricky Stuart. It might have been the way things went sour after their union together. In recent times, he's made up with both. Gus is a very biased and vindictive. If you are on his good side, you get biased commentary. When you get on his bad side, he will destroy your team.

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Any thoughts on Nathan Brown.

Heading towards NRL head coach failure #3

Thanks for Matt Lodge. What a beast.

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You're welcome

 

[Lockysillegitimatechild]

I'm not sure if I agree, a Walsh + Tuivasa-Sheck combo looks far more threatening than a Tuivasa-Sheck + Kosi combo. Walsh didn't have his best game but it's the Warriors best interest moving forward that he gets as much experience as possible. With the second-tier competition currently off limits to NRL players it makes it a bigger headache than it ought to be.

I understand the post was largely made in response to Walsh thinking he was too good for reserve grade but I don't buy that story. He left for the money plain and simple.

They have won 2/8 with Walsh in the team, 1/7 with him at fb and RTS on the wing. The 2 victories were by 4 points over the tigers and cowboys....They won 3/6 prior to the move. What exactly is threatening about it? RTS is a shell of himself, Walsh creates more tries for the opposition then the warriors. RTS has been a dally m mmedalist and the best fullback in the comp at times in an era that had multiple fullback who were/are once in a generation. Walsh is textbook for needing a year in QLD cup, and RTS should be playing fullback, no question...

 

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I've watched 3 games of walshs and I can safely say they would have doubled their chances of winning every single one of them with RTS at the back. His errors, he doesn't take tough runs, poor defence, always goes for the big play, doesn't support in the middle , poor under the high ball and always goes for the big play.

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I agree he should of been on the wing, rts is one of the games best and he's sitting on a wing. Rts at the back and they win that game.

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I agree he should of been on the wing, rts is one of the games best and he's sitting on a wing. Rts at the back and they win that game.

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Think walsh to small for the wing,i rememer niko having to fill in for us on the wing against the storm once it was ugly.6 or 14 for me.

 

[Big Pete]

They have won 2/8 with Walsh in the team, 1/7 with him at fb and RTS on the wing. The 2 victories were by 4 points over the tigers and cowboys....They won 3/6 prior to the move. What exactly is threatening about it? RTS is a shell of himself, Walsh creates more tries for the opposition then the warriors. RTS has been a dally m mmedalist and the best fullback in the comp at times in an era that had multiple fullback who were/are once in a generation. Walsh is textbook for needing a year in QLD cup, and RTS should be playing fullback, no question...

If you go back and look at how they were playing before Walsh arrived you would see that they struggled for points. Their highest score was against a Raiders side that had to play 65 minutes with only 14 players available and the Warriors just pipped them. When Walsh arrived they scored 20 against Melbourne, 24 against the Cowboys, 32 against Manly, 30 against Tigers and 28 against Cowboys. They have dropped off these past four weeks but there's no doubt that Walsh made them a far more potent side.

If the Warriors had their full contingent available I could understand going the safe route but they've lost both Harris-Tavita, Townsend and Turner who could spark them or help manage the team across the park. As a result, Walsh is doing a lot of their work as well.

Tuivasa-Sheck still gets through all the hard work at the back and still makes around 200m a game and is good for that odd incisive run. They don't really miss out on anything there it's just the risk and reward of playing Walsh.

Regardless Walsh can't play QCup so he's better off playing NRL where he has been valuable for them.

 

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Think walsh to small for the wing,i rememer niko having to fill in for us on the wing against the storm once it was ugly.6 or 14 for me.

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too small for wing but ok for fullback?

that doesnt make any sense

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too small for wing but ok for fullback?

that doesnt make any sense

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Wingers are usually marking up against one another and competing for cross-field kicks. If you have Walsh against Tupou for instance it's a mismatch. Fullbacks rarely have to deal with those contests.

With Walsh you're taking away some of his best advantages like his playmaking and foot-work by having him play wing.

At least that's the rationale, I don't think it would hurt the Warriors to give it ago at some point this year. With second tier footy all but cancelled for NRL clubs, you've got to find ways to get Walsh playing footy.

 

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Wingers are usually marking up against one another and competing for cross-field kicks. If you have Walsh against Tupou for instance it's a mismatch. Fullbacks rarely have to deal with those contests.

With Walsh you're taking away some of his best advantages like his playmaking and foot-work by having him play wing.

At least that's the rationale, I don't think it would hurt the Warriors to give it ago at some point this year. With second tier footy all but cancelled for NRL clubs, you've got to find ways to get Walsh playing footy.

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did you watch the Warriors game - there were quite a few contested bombs which Walshy had to field at FB.

as the last line of defense he also had to man up (an failed) on a rampaging Uele who scored. On the wing an attacking winger has limited space and options to hit you. At fullback you have to cover defence from multiple angles and field positions, and tackle anyone from prop to second rowers to halves centres wing and fullback. People with multiple different sizes skill sets and strengths

To say he’s ok at fullback but too small for wing doesn’t make any sense to me.

If he’s too small for wing, then hes too small to be on the field…

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did you watch the Warriors game - there were quite a few contested bombs which Walshy had to field at FB.

as the last line of defense he also had to man up (an failed) on a rampaging Uele who scored. On the wing an attacking winger has limited space and options to hit you. At fullback you have to cover defence from multiple angles and field positions, and tackle anyone from prop to second rowers to halves centres wing and fullback. People with multiple different sizes skill sets and strengths

To say he’s ok at fullback but too small for wing doesn’t make any sense to me.

If he’s too small for wing, then hes too small to be on the field…

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Sure but they were easier than what the typical cross-field kick where the attacking winner has a better chance of claiming it. Also if your front line defence is good, you can avoid having your fullback go one on one with a barnstorming prop. Whereas the wing is always going to be a target for opposition teams.

 

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If you go back and look at how they were playing before Walsh arrived you would see that they struggled for points. Their highest score was against a Raiders side that had to play 65 minutes with only 14 players available and the Warriors just pipped them. When Walsh arrived they scored 20 against Melbourne, 24 against the Cowboys, 32 against Manly, 30 against Tigers and 28 against Cowboys. They have dropped off these past four weeks but there's no doubt that Walsh made them a far more potent side.

If the Warriors had their full contingent available I could understand going the safe route but they've lost both Harris-Tavita, Townsend and Turner who could spark them or help manage the team across the park. As a result, Walsh is doing a lot of their work as well.

Tuivasa-Sheck still gets through all the hard work at the back and still makes around 200m a game and is good for that odd incisive run. They don't really miss out on anything there it's just the risk and reward of playing Walsh.

Regardless Walsh can't play QCup so he's better off playing NRL where he has been valuable for them.

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Nice analysis.

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