The Storm.

[Alec]

Man, this year's premiership will be arguably the worst of this generation, along with last years. Melbourne winning anything sucks.

Why? The key Storm players are Qlders: Slater, Folau, Inglis, Smith, Crocker ...

So what? I don't care if they are QLDers. I care for them when it's SoO time, but when it's not they are among my most hated players.

 

[Hamm.0]

I'm sorry, I just don't can't understand how you all rant on about how great our roster is eusa_think

Chumba; Lockyer, Hunt, Hodges, Thaiday. If I could pick a team out of Storm-Brisbane players, they are the only 4 I'd have. So "talked down" or not, Storm have a far superior playing roster than Broncos.

rnabakov; Mate, look around. We don't have this great roster you think we have. Just because a player has made QLD once doesn't mean he is good. In fact, Broncos have always had the adavantage (or disadvantage) of having mediocre players get selected for QLD. *cough*Parker, Boyd*cough* I think we have a good side, however if you look at our pack, which is the be all and end all; we don't have this star studded pack that you think is under performing. We have an average pack, which is under performing.

 

[Kimlo]

I'm sorry, I just don't can't understand how you all rant on about how great our roster is eusa_think

Chumba; Lockyer, Hunt, Hodges, Thaiday. If I could pick a team out of Storm-Brisbane players, they are the only 4 I'd have. So "talked down" or not, Storm have a far superior playing roster than Broncos.

rnabakov; Mate, look around. We don't have this great roster you think we have. Just because a player has made QLD once doesn't mean he is good. In fact, Broncos have always had the adavantage (or disadvantage) of having mediocre players get selected for QLD. *cough*Parker, Boyd*cough* I think we have a good side, however if you look at our pack, which is the be all and end all; we don't have this star studded pack that you think is under performing. We have an average pack, which is under performing.

Steve price, HTH.

 

[rnabokov]

Look - we have the players.

At a minimum: Hunt, Hodges, Lockyer, Wallace, Ennis, Thaiday, Carroll, Eastwood, Kemp ...

We just don't have either the well-drilled game plan not the week-in, week-out commitment.

 

[Coxy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I think you're being a bit subtle about this particular point and haven't made it clear...

Are you saying the Broncos aren't well drilled?

 

[Dexter]

Oh yeah! Good pick up Coxy, I've been wondering what he's getting at.

rna can you be a little less cyptic with your posts.

 

[mick]

I'm sorry, I just don't can't understand how you all rant on about how great our roster is eusa_think

Chumba; Lockyer, Hunt, Hodges, Thaiday. If I could pick a team out of Storm-Brisbane players, they are the only 4 I'd have. So "talked down" or not, Storm have a far superior playing roster than Broncos.

Deadset? I think our roster is damn strong, but the Storm are just a far better drilled team who are more consistent as a unit. I'd have eight or nine Broncos in any merged team though...

1. Hunt
2. Kemp
3. Hodges
4. Inglis
5. Folau
6. Lockyer
7. Cronk
8. Thaiday
9. Smith
10. Kaufusi
11. Thaiday
12. Johnson
13. Carroll

14. Slater
15. Taylor
16. Lima
17. Hannant

 

[Coxy]

Yeah, the Broncos just aren't well drilled.

 

[schmix]

Yeah, the Broncos just aren't well drilled.

That sounds familiar... eusa_think

 

[The Brizz]

I would have the following for the Brismel Stormcos

1. Slater
2. Kemp
3. Hodges
4. Inglis
5. Folau
6. Lockyer
7. Cronk
8. Lima
9. Smith
10. White
11. Thaiday
12. Crocker
13. Johnson

14. Hunt
15. Blair
16. Lima
17. J.Smith

I have it 12 Storm and 5 Broncos.

People underestimate just how good their pack is, they are ruthless and drilled better than any side I may have ever seen. No one in our pack except Thaiday has the game to warrant a spot in their pack (Carroll was close but he doesn't do what he ised to week in week out anymore). Also just because White has been crap for NSW doesn't mean he isn't excellent week after week for Melbourne.

 

[Clintos]

I'm sorry, I just don't can't understand how you all rant on about how great our roster is eusa_think

Chumba; Lockyer, Hunt, Hodges, Thaiday. If I could pick a team out of Storm-Brisbane players, they are the only 4 I'd have. So "talked down" or not, Storm have a far superior playing roster than Broncos.

Deadset? I think our roster is damn strong, but the Storm are just a far better drilled team who are more consistent as a unit. I'd have eight or nine Broncos in any merged team though...

1. Hunt
2. Kemp
3. Hodges
4. Inglis
5. Folau
6. Lockyer
7. Cronk
8. Thaiday
9. Smith
10. Kaufusi
11. Thaiday
12. Johnson
13. Carroll

14. Slater
15. Taylor
16. Lima
17. Hannant

Surely Thaiday doesn't warrant 2 positions [icon_razz1

 

[Clintos]

1. Hunt
2. Boyd
3. Inglis
4. Hodges
5. Falou
6. Lockyer
7. Cronk
8. Hannant
9. Smith
10. Lima
11. Thaiday
12. Hoffman
13. Carroll

14. Slater
15. Kaufusi
16. Johnson
17. Crocker

Coach: Bellamy

 

[Hamm.0]

Picking the players solely on the positions they currently play (hugely biased towards Brisbane);

1. Slater (Guys, it isn't the firey start of an Origin match. Having Slater on the bench isn't needed, and you can't honestly believe that Hunt is better then Slater overall. I love Hunt, he brings much to the table, however Slater is on fire. And has been for 2 seasons.)
2. Kemp
3. Falou
4. Hodges
5. Turner
6. Lockyer
7. Cronk
8. Lima
9. C. Smith
10. White
11. Thaiday
12. Crocker
13. Johnson

14. Hoffman
15. J.Smith
16. Hannant
17. Kaufusi

I got 5 this time. That's being very lenient and on name alone. IMHO, Hannant hasn't the right to tie Blair's shoelaces atm. Hunt maybe as a bulky bench spot, but he isn't playing that role at the Broncos and rightly so, it isn't his job.

 

[The Brizz]

5 is what I got too Hammo and being realistic it is hard to squeeze more of our guy in. They are far and away the games benchmark and we are an inconsistent team that looks good on paper but have played like lightweights. The storm have so many guys who don't get the praise they should because they are great week after week for them; Turner, Quinn, Geyer, Manu, Blair, Lima, J.Smith, White (great week after week for the Storm), Kaufusi and even Cronk are all great time and time again for these guys add to that C.Smith, Inglis, Folau, Slater, Johnson and Hoffman and you have the best side ever developed/assembled under the salary cap in terms of consistency and balance from 1-17.

 

[rnabokov]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I think you're being a bit subtle about this particular point and haven't made it clear...

Are you saying the Broncos aren't well drilled?

The answer to your post is both in a number of the above posts and the results.

NO, we are NOT a well drilled team.

Is that cryptic enough?

 

[Dexter]

These guys are just so much more beatable than everyone reckons, the problem is everyone including the refs have fallen for the hype.

1. Slater, .....Flashy at best too many errors to be considered over Hunt
2. Kemp
3. Falou .....Over rated, when was the last time he actually created his own space.
4. Hodges
5. Turner ..... Dime a dozen finisher
6. Lockyer
7. Cronk .....Steady half, Wallace has his measure
8. Lima .....wouldn't make our top 17
9. C. Smith .....Good but Matai showed he will turn it up if hit.
10. White ..... Can't produce when it matters, Hannant can
11. Thaiday
12. Crocker .....Can be niggled out of a game
13. Johnson .....No match winner TC is better

14. Hoffman ..... Biggest cat going around
15. J.Smith .....Good on his day but no match turner
16. Hannant
17. Kaufusi..... Another plodder only good in short bursts

 

[Hamm.0]

Bhahahahahhahahaahha

I tasted, had a nibble....

 

[Chumba]

I'm sorry, I just don't can't understand how you all rant on about how great our roster is eusa_think

Chumba; Lockyer, Hunt, Hodges, Thaiday. If I could pick a team out of Storm-Brisbane players, they are the only 4 I'd have. So "talked down" or not, Storm have a far superior playing roster than Broncos.
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Hammo, in my earlier post I made my comparrison between the Storm and the Broncos of both now and over time when I spoke of the currant Storm's ability in GETTING THE JOB DONE, against the Broncos inability over time to continueously WIN THE EASIER games. You may or may not have seen that, but that was my point.

While I have already stated that the Storm are a crack outfit and a well drilled one at that, over the years, both now and in the past we have had good enough sides to be doing better in the department of the games that we win and the ones that we don't. We get beat by the wrong teams in the wrong way and we always have. We have a good enough team to beat every team out there and have had almost every year since joining the comp, yet though impressive, our game by game results show that we could have done better.

Now I know people will say how we have won more comps and done this and done that, but I have followed the team since day 1, I have watched the games and seen how they have thrown away leads and lost games that have in one way or another lead to us not being able to win more comps.

Some will say that I am expecting too much, and perhaps, but I have seen an all australian back line and an all qld pack get belted and many are the examples of how our brilliant Broncos have been barrelled out of the finals by lesser sides. I have seen them beat comp leaders one week and get rolled by the woodern spoon getters the next week. Through all these years there has been one constant, one side of the team and it's make up or culture... and next year it won't be there. How that will impact, I'm not sure, and how long it will take for the fact that that one constant is no longer a part of things soaks in is also a worry.

I believe WB has been the greatest recruiter of men the game in the modern era has ever and will ever see, and yet these great sides have somehow managed to somewhere along the way forget how to win football games. For all bar six or seven weeks of insperational footy at the end of 06', this brilliant team with the gutsiest and one of the most talanted leaders I've ever watched play the game, has speant almost 8 years performing below par. And it breaks the heart to watch and I have no idea how to fix it, only to say that at least in the years ahead we will learn if it was the coach or indeed too long with the same coach that finally became too much.