NEWS Wayne Bennett hits Brisbane Broncos with $400k claim

broncos4life

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Exactly when ? I often admit I was wrong, even earlier today and many times in the past. You choose to forget.
In the Seibold thread, you said something to the effect of “if Seibold is so good why did they not want to keep him and move him on” and then completely ignored my post where I told you you are making up rubbish as it is well known Souths were desperate to keep him.
 

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We have like 10 pages of "It was Waynes fault because" and "It was the Broncos because". What's the point lads?
I could not like this more. So correct, and with some of the posters the positions are so entrenched on both sides nothing is going to shift despite the various responses. We may as well be arguing about how many atoms you can fit on a pinhead.
As an outsider it's amusing to watch you guys all self destruct & turn on each other. Probably hasn't happened as much since 04/10/15.
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lynx000

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As an outsider it's amusing to watch you guys all self destruct & turn on each other. Probably hasn't happened as much since 04/10/15.
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I know it's still a bit early
Actually, none of this is unusual in this place, there is regularly a diversity of views on many topics which are robustly debated. Just like any league forum really.
 

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As an outsider it's amusing to watch you guys all self destruct & turn on each other. Probably hasn't happened as much since 04/10/15.
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It’s the off season...or didn’t you know!
 

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No not directed at you at all. I was saying Eta is the troll and it is too much to expect him to acknowledge he is incorrect. The schooled bit also referred to Eta/Reyter.
I apologize for jumping to the wrong conclusion. I got that wrong.
 

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In the Seibold thread, you said something to the effect of “if Seibold is so good why did they not want to keep him and move him on” and then completely ignored my post where I told you you are making up rubbish as it is well known Souths were desperate to keep him.
Oh right. I wasn't aware they were desperate to keep him and the fact he was there for just one season and allowed to be shopped around combined with only being given a year long contract initially seemed to indicate that Souths didn't have any great faith that he would be worth keeping. I don't see that as making up rubbish and it was a genuine question fairly asked. Had they really felt desperate to keep him I think they would have offered him a juicy and longer contract and would have done so before the possibility of coaching Brisbane in 2020. Perhaps they did and he foresaw the future. I wasn't wrong or stirring the pot, I asked a reasonable question. It remains unanswered.
 

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I apologize for jumping to the wrong conclusion. I got that wrong.
No problem at all, the way I posted it was open for confusion to occur.

Re the Seibold post by you, my understanding of the history (granted from press reports at the time) was that Souths were keen to have him sign an extension and negotiations were well down the path for that to occur, when Seibold asked for it to be put on hold until the end of the season.

That may fit in with the conspiracy theories re AS already being approached by the Broncos, or equally he might have been clever and thought that he was a lock for the South's role, why not sit back and see what eventuates with the Broncos. Once again from my understanding, Souths only turned towards Bennett after Seibold had given them the word that he was either going to the Broncos or seriously pursuing that.

So, I don't believe your postulation about them not wanting AS or pushing him out is accurate on the facts as far as I know them.
 

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No problem at all, the way I posted it was open for confusion to occur.

Re the Seibold post by you, my understanding of the history (granted from press reports at the time) was that Souths were keen to have him sign an extension and negotiations were well down the path for that to occur, when Seibold asked for it to be put on hold until the end of the season.

That may fit in with the conspiracy theories re AS already being approached by the Broncos, or equally he might have been clever and thought that he was a lock for the South's role, why not sit back and see what eventuates with the Broncos. Once again from my understanding, Souths only turned towards Bennett after Seibold had given them the word that he was either going to the Broncos or seriously pursuing that.

So, I don't believe your postulation about them not wanting AS or pushing him out is accurate on the facts as far as I know them.
Well, I was only speculating that he wasn't wanted and I did say that too I'm sure. It's just that the Bronco's job in 2020 wasn't really on the table until the public declaration back in Sep yet Siebold had been courted by Souths and he demurred. I tend to think what's most likely is as far back as Bellamy's rejection the Bronco's were looking for a second choice and it may have been an inspired choice. AS may well turn out to be a great acquisition and his signing may be a fortuitous turn of events.

Again I do believe that Souths could have made him an offer simply too good to refuse had they really wanted him but I'm ON BOARD WITH THE BRONCO'S BOARD. Not yelling here, emphasizing I'm totally supportive of AS and the board's decision and lately I've come to understand many posters (the reasonable and not hate filled posters) reasoning why the change was necessary. The one damning stat from last year was our poor defence and even though WB didn't miss a tackle it was his responsibility. I don't think his football style was the problem nor the player relationships and we scored heavily during the season but I'm feeling refreshed by the change.
 

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Well, I was only speculating that he wasn't wanted and I did say that too I'm sure. It's just that the Bronco's job in 2020 wasn't really on the table until the public declaration back in Sep yet Siebold had been courted by Souths and he demurred. I tend to think what's most likely is as far back as Bellamy's rejection the Bronco's were looking for a second choice and it may have been an inspired choice. AS may well turn out to be a great acquisition and his signing may be a fortuitous turn of events.

Again I do believe that Souths could have made him an offer simply too good to refuse had they really wanted him but I'm ON BOARD WITH THE BRONCO'S BOARD. Not yelling here, emphasizing I'm totally supportive of AS and the board's decision and lately I've come to understand many posters (the reasonable and not hate filled posters) reasoning why the change was necessary. The one damning stat from last year was our poor defence and even though WB didn't miss a tackle it was his responsibility. I don't think his football style was the problem nor the player relationships and we scored heavily during the season but I'm feeling refreshed by the change.
Hopefully it is onwards and upwards for us all.
 

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Oh right. I wasn't aware they were desperate to keep him and the fact he was there for just one season and allowed to be shopped around combined with only being given a year long contract initially seemed to indicate that Souths didn't have any great faith that he would be worth keeping. I don't see that as making up rubbish and it was a genuine question fairly asked. Had they really felt desperate to keep him I think they would have offered him a juicy and longer contract and would have done so before the possibility of coaching Brisbane in 2020. Perhaps they did and he foresaw the future. I wasn't wrong or stirring the pot, I asked a reasonable question. It remains unanswered.
He wasn’t shopped around at all, you are the only person that believes this.
 
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He wasn’t shopped around at all, you are the only person that believes this.
Clearly South's allowed him to be shopped around. How can you speak for all the other humans on this planet? Such audacity! His manager likely offered him to other clubs or tested the interest from other clubs. One way or another he was exploring options. He must have entered into some sort of dialogue with the Bronco's and even if my description was in error the fact remains that Souths, had they truly wanted him to remain could have made an offer too good to refuse. To me they weren't that bothered that he would move on. Anyway, it matters not and he's here so I'm going to hope he is a raging success.
 

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Clearly South's allowed him to be shopped around. How can you speak for all the other humans on this planet? Such audacity! His manager likely offered him to other clubs or tested the interest from other clubs. One way or another he was exploring options. He must have entered into some sort of dialogue with the Bronco's and even if my description was in error the fact remains that Souths, had they truly wanted him to remain could have made an offer too good to refuse. To me they weren't that bothered that he would move on. Anyway, it matters not and he's here so I'm going to hope he is a raging success.
Souths give Seibold breathing space to decide future
South Sydney will not pressure coach Anthony Seibold to sign a contract extension as Brisbane ramp up their plans to prise him away from Redfern.
Rookie NRL coach Seibold is seen as the Broncos' No.1 target to replace Wayne Bennett in 2020.
A frustrated Bennett said this week he was unsure about his own future, telling reporters "you will have to talk to the chairman or the CEO . . . if they don’t want to talk about it, I’m certainly not going to talk about it."
Seibold is firming as the NRL coach of the year after breathing life into Souths' attack and reinvigorating the Burgess twins, Tom and George.
Souths officials are not concerned by the Broncos' interest and are prepared to sit back and give Seibold all the time he needs.
Seibold has opted to delay his own contract situation until the end of the season because he does not want it to distract from the club's title tilt.
Souths have made it clear they want Seibold to remain at the helm beyond his current deal, which expires at the end of next season.
Fairfax Media understands there has been no direct contact between Seibold and the Broncos to date.
Seibold once played lower grades with the Broncos, who are assembling one of the best young packs in the game, and he is also familiar with several of their senior players through his time as an assistant coach with the Queensland State of Origin team.
It was only late last year some were questioning why Souths general manager Shane Richardson had axed premiership coach Michael Maguire and opted for a first timer in Seibold.
Seibold is young and enthusiastic and his success cannot be denied but he also inherited a brilliant line-up, which includes two of the best players in the game, Greg Inglis and Sam Burgess.
Star Souths recruit Dane Gagai said he wouldn't be surprised if rivals other than the Broncos lined up for Seibold's signature.
"He understands his players and he gets it," Gagai said.
"I think with the style of play, bringing Cody [Walker] into the game and letting him play the off-the-cuff style of footy, which is one of his strong suits, he just gets it.
"I wouldn't be surprised if more clubs aren't interested in him.
"But our focus is on this year and building for the finals.''
The Maroons Origin star never doubted Seibold being a success as a head coach, even after he had signed on when Maguire was in charge. "He'd been an assistant for a long time and at the highest level with [Queensland] Origin, so it was never a concern Seibs being head coach."
Cody Walker rejected interest from Brisbane to remain at Redfern and would love Seibold to follow suit.
"He's done a fantastic job here and I can understand where that speculation comes from," Walker said on Thursday.
"But speaking on behalf of Seibsy, I think he'd be keen to quash [that talk] quickly.
"There's been no chat about [the Broncos] and there probably won't be any chat.
"I made the decision to stay here, it's my home, it's where me and my family are most comfortable.
"My kids love the Bunnies and I don't think they could see me playing for another team."
Bennett's record with the Broncos since his return to the club cannot be disputed but it's been reported that he may need a premiership to continue beyond next season.
The super coach has happily endorsed his assistant Jason Demetriou to succeed him and did so again on the eve of Thursday night's match against Cronulla.
"He is definitely qualified to do a head coaching job; if not here then somewhere else," Bennett said.
Souths were keen to lure Broncos forward Jaydn Su'A as a replacement for Sydney Roosters' $1 million-a-season scalp Angus Crichton but Brisbane dug deep to retain him, a week after they splashed $3 million to secure teen giant Payne Haas on a six-year deal.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/souths-give-seibold-breathing-space-to-decide-future-20180726-p4ztt4.html

26th July 2018
 
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Clearly South's allowed him to be shopped around. How can you speak for all the other humans on this planet? Such audacity! His manager likely offered him to other clubs or tested the interest from other clubs. One way or another he was exploring options. He must have entered into some sort of dialogue with the Bronco's and even if my description was in error the fact remains that Souths, had they truly wanted him to remain could have made an offer too good to refuse. To me they weren't that bothered that he would move on. Anyway, it matters not and he's here so I'm going to hope he is a raging success.
I give up. You are clearly the kind of person that could stand in the rain and argue to the death that it’s not raining. I am not going to waste anymore of my time on you
 
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Thanks for that. So Souths had Siebold contracted until the end of 2019 but were apparently happy to let him walk a season early and as they say weren't motivated to ensure he remained. It does appear they were happy with him and it at least answers my question. As I've said, I'm happy we have him and wish him great success but were I in Souths position at that time, I would have secured his services with a contract too good to refuse if I in fact rated him that highly. It seems to me that Souths unconcerned whether he stayed or went as they likely had a back up plan. The public certainly isn't privy to the backroom deals and this indicates to me at least that Souths knew with some certainty that WB was going to be available much sooner than a lot thought.
 

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I give up. You are clearly the kind of person that could stand in the rain and argue to the death that it’s not raining. I am not going to waste anymore of my time on you
Goodo, I've known for years that consoling a person not capable of rational, logical thinking is a thankless task so it pleases me that that person is not going to waste anymore time on me. One less crazy I think.
 

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Thanks for that. So Souths had Siebold contracted until the end of 2019 but were apparently happy to let him walk a season early and as they say weren't motivated to ensure he remained. It does appear they were happy with him and it at least answers my question. As I've said, I'm happy we have him and wish him great success but were I in Souths position at that time, I would have secured his services with a contract too good to refuse if I in fact rated him that highly. It seems to me that Souths unconcerned whether he stayed or went as they likely had a back up plan. The public certainly isn't privy to the backroom deals and this indicates to me at least that Souths knew with some certainty that WB was going to be available much sooner than a lot thought.
Yes we’re all given the gift of ability to interpret things differently even though at times we see those things the way we want to see them rather then the way they truly are.
 

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