Xzei
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Not just on madden to be kicking mam needs to step up aswell if madden is under the pump
Maybe some exaggeration going on there ?. Possibly one time that you are focussed on . It wasn't happening all night . He hit a cpl of kicks very sweetly .It was the case, I even gave you a prime example.
He did have a couple of decent kicks towards the end of the game, but it was too little too late. In general he was out-kicked by his opposite and he doesn't seem capable of saving sets with his kicking game - which you want from your halfback. That was the point I was making with the opening set and his dolly kick to gift Cronulla momentum.Maybe some exaggeration going on there ?. Possibly one time that you are focussed on . It wasn't happening all night . He hit a cpl of kicks very sweetly .
I don't see the value in this. It's not like Black is some prodigy, he's just a solid junior football player. You could waste an entire season and say it's all good we have Black only to find out his ceiling isn't enough to make you a contender.Really, we are hopefully looking at a stop gap until Black is ready. Is Madden good enough to have a shot as prime 7 for a year or two? I think so.
Harsh to blame the #7 when the forwards get dominated .He did have a couple of decent kicks towards the end of the game, but it was too little too late. In general he was out-kicked by his opposite and he doesn't seem capable of saving sets with his kicking game - which you want from your halfback. That was the point I was making with the opening set and his dolly kick to gift Cronulla momentum.
He's not alone either and Ezra is doing nothing to suggest he's Reynolds' heir either.
To be clear, I'm not saying he deserves to be dropped. However I can't say he did a good job either and he's going to have to improve and take more ownership of the team.
I don't see the value in this. It's not like Black is some prodigy, he's just a solid junior football player. You could waste an entire season and say it's all good we have Black only to find out his ceiling isn't enough to make you a contender.
The Broncos have to treat this period as a blessing. Now they can see how they perform with Madden at 7 and see whether he can step up. They're 1-2 so far, still plenty of games ahead but if they continue to trend down the ladder it won't do his future any good.
I'm not blaming the 7, never said anything about 60-70m, I just said his performance wasn't impressive and you're making excuses.Harsh to blame the #7 when the forwards get dominated .
And the back three can`t hold the ball or make metres .
Then he`s sposed to pull some fantastic 60 -70 metre kicks that make it rain, out his arse to turn things around ?
I doubt even the great Ricky Stuart could have saved the Broncos the other night .
He did have a couple of decent kicks towards the end of the game, but it was too little too late. In general he was out-kicked by his opposite and he doesn't seem capable of saving sets with his kicking game - which you want from your halfback. That was the point I was making with the opening set and his dolly kick to gift Cronulla momentum.
He's not alone either and Ezra is doing nothing to suggest he's Reynolds' heir either.
To be clear, I'm not saying he deserves to be dropped. However I can't say he did a good job either and he's going to have to improve and take more ownership of the team.
I don't see the value in this. It's not like Black is some prodigy, he's just a solid junior football player. You could waste an entire season and say it's all good we have Black only to find out his ceiling isn't enough to make you a contender.
The Broncos have to treat this period as a blessing. Now they can see how they perform with Madden at 7 and see whether he can step up. They're 1-2 so far, still plenty of games ahead but if they continue to trend down the ladder it won't do his future any good.
.....and you're unnecessarily micro-scoping him on a couple kicks.I'm not blaming the 7, never said anything about 60-70m, I just said his performance wasn't impressive and you're making excuses.
Who's off contract in 2025?Who would you like us to chase? An additional consideration I suppose is do you also think Reynolds will last until the end of 2025?
Yet it's still ordinary. It doesn't take micro-scoping, it was pretty evident on the night.I've seen a fairly substantial improvement in his kicking.
I'm not blaming the 7, never said anything about 60-70m, I just said his performance wasn't impressive and you're making excuses.
Of 1 or 2 kicks.......Yet it's still ordinary. It doesn't take micro-scoping, it was pretty evident on the night.
I'll take any NRL standard kicker, hell Braydon Trindall clearly out-kicked him the entire night and he's barely cemented his place in the competition.Of 1 or 2 kicks.......
and if your comparing them to Wally Lewis kicks.
Sure.
Pushing shit up hill kicking behind a beaten pack imoI'll take any NRL standard kicker, hell Braydon Trindall clearly out-kicked him the entire night and he's barely cemented his place in the competition.
Trindall was constantly kicking from over his 40m zone and often well into our half. Madden had to reef it from our 20m line a few times and often from with our 30 m zone off a slow play the ball. Not many halves would kick a team out of trouble doing thatI'll take any NRL standard kicker, hell Braydon Trindall clearly out-kicked him the entire night and he's barely cemented his place in the competition.
It goes both ways, the forwards can't get involved if you're putting in weak kicks. Even when Madden was in attacking range, you can't say his kicks were that impressive. Fine for a back-up half like I said, but impressive?Trindall was constantly kicking from over his 40m zone and often well into our half. Madden had to reef it from our 20m line a few times and often from with our 30 m zone off a slow play the ball. Not many halves would kick a team out of trouble doing that
It goes both ways, the forwards can't get involved if you're putting in weak kicks. Even when Madden was in attacking range, you can't say his kicks were that impressive. Fine for a back-up half like I said, but impressive?
Let's revisit this in Round 22 when Reynolds is due back.