NEWS Why Haas Rejected 6m Offer

[Mightybroncs2k17]

Hypotheticall situation here. Say we have 1 million to spend and the option to give it to either Harry Grant, Kayln Ponga or Payne Hass

Who you giving the million a season too?

For me in this order its:
1.Harry Grant
2. Ponga
3. Hass.

 

[McHunt]

Hypotheticall situation here. Say we have 1 million to spend and the option to give it to either Harry Grant, Kayln Ponga or Payne Hass

Who you giving the million a season too?
3. Hass.

Man, the price of avocados these days.

 

[Midean]

Payne's agent's job is to get him the most money he can. Payne considers that's what he's paying his agent commission to worry about, and he doesn't want to be lumbered with talking about it. Fair enough.

Part of that process is going to have to be his agent shopping him around other clubs to gauge his market value, and that process is going to get back to us through the media. None of this means Payne will actually join another club, regardless of whether they outbid the Broncos, or some other club he'd be happy to join.

Until Payne shows his hand there is no way we can predict where he'll be in five years time. If that were possible no other club would be bidding. This is how negotiation works. Both parties need to be able to walk away from the table. Those are the stakes.

He probably only has a few clubs he'd be prepared to sign with. Maybe one is the Broncos. Or maybe he'd like to get away. If he wants to stay in SEQ, he has three clubs to choose between. If they'll pay the price. Or maybe he'd like to take a punt on getting a premiership ring and move to one of the frontrunners. Again, we can't tell.

Throughout this process Payne is acting sensibly. He does not owe the Broncos any more than to serve out his current contract. He's well and truly put in as much effort as any player in the NRL. We can't say he bludged off us.

We really just have to leave him be. It's his future. We have him now. And we have his 100%. What more could we demand of him?

I might agree if he didnt have THREE YEARS LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT.

 

[McHunt]

I might agree if he didnt have THREE YEARS LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT.

The complication in that is the Broncos want to rip up that contract and replace it with a new, longer one. Which effectively puts him on the market, albeit in an opportunity cost kind of way.

 

[Sproj]

The complication in that is the Broncos want to rip up that contract and replace it with a new, longer one. Which effectively puts him on the market.

How? It isn't like if he rejects it, the current contract is null and void.

 

[Wolfie]

The complication in that is the Broncos want to rip up that contract and replace it with a new, longer one. Which effectively puts him on the market, albeit in an opportunity cost kind of way.

Didnt we just want to extend it? Cant recall us saying anything about tearing up what he has

 

[Johnny92]

Didnt we just want to extend it? Cant recall us saying anything about tearing up what he has

That's what I thought it would be a extension with a pay rise, a new contract I would think means waiting til his off contract and him being on the open market.

 

[nopatience101]

He has a contract for the next 3yrs he cannot get out of, if he sulks about it he’s only going to hurt his own value. I personally couldn’t care less if he ***** off at the end of his deal, no prop is worth $1m a year, his work rate is outstanding for a guy his size, but he’s largely still a one dimensional player with questionable defence on his own line. He is not going to be the difference between winning & losing each week, and f you are paying someone a million a year they should be the difference. The thing that irritates me is this whole saga appears choreographed by other people who have got in his ear.

 

[the_next]

Payne's agent's job is to get him the most money he can. Payne considers that's what he's paying his agent commission to worry about, and he doesn't want to be lumbered with talking about it. Fair enough.

Part of that process is going to have to be his agent shopping him around other clubs to gauge his market value, and that process is going to get back to us through the media. None of this means Payne will actually join another club, regardless of whether they outbid the Broncos, or some other club he'd be happy to join.

Until Payne shows his hand there is no way we can predict where he'll be in five years time. If that were possible no other club would be bidding. This is how negotiation works. Both parties need to be able to walk away from the table. Those are the stakes.

He probably only has a few clubs he'd be prepared to sign with. Maybe one is the Broncos. Or maybe he'd like to get away. If he wants to stay in SEQ, he has three clubs to choose between. If they'll pay the price. Or maybe he'd like to take a punt on getting a premiership ring and move to one of the frontrunners. Again, we can't tell.

Throughout this process Payne is acting sensibly. He does not owe the Broncos any more than to serve out his current contract. He's well and truly put in as much effort as any player in the NRL. We can't say he bludged off us.

We really just have to leave him be. It's his future. We have him now. And we have his 100%. What more could we demand of him?

Completely get your point however, it’s pretty hard to accept that he/his manager may be shopping himself around to other clubs with years still left on his current contract.
I don’t read/hear Tommy T or Teddy shopping themselves around years out from their contracts expiration.
It would all make sense if he were about to come off contract, but he isn’t.
Add to this the Broncos have already given him an upgrade. Possibly in hindsight we shouldn’t have, because it sounds like he thinks he’s a lock for another upgrade.

Maybe clubs need to start adding clauses into contracts that if a players form drops they owe the club money back. Wouldn’t that be funny..
Milford never gave back a cent from the million dollars a year he rorted from us when not performing. But hey, that’s the clubs fault for signing a player on big dollars.
But when a player is performing and isn’t earning as much money as other top tier players they’re demanding an upgrade.
Its pie in the sky stuff I know, but still it’s funny how this stuff seems to work in only one direction.

 

[nopatience101]

The complication in that is the Broncos want to rip up that contract and replace it with a new, longer one. Which effectively puts him on the market, albeit in an opportunity cost kind of way.

The broncos understandably won’t entertain upgrading his current deal without an extension, so he has the option if he wants more money, but it’s not coming without something in return. The club has all the bargaining power atm, he can either work with them or wait 3 years and leave.

 

[Bull Shark]

Kent has come out and said Payne has spoken to the bulldogs and said he wants $1m and Gould told him he’s not worth it.
I don’t believe it.

I sure as shit want that to be true

 

[Bull Shark]

 

[Robboi_321]

Wants $1 million a season and doesn’t know the difference between “then” and “than”

 

[Bull Shark]

Wants $1 million a season and doesn’t know the difference between “then” and “than”

Maybe he wants loyalty…..THEN a million bucks?

 

[Foordy]

Hypotheticall situation here. Say we have 1 million to spend and the option to give it to either Harry Grant, Kayln Ponga or Payne Hass

Who you giving the million a season too?

For me in this order its:
1.Harry Grant
2. Ponga
3. Hass.

1. Harry Grant
2. Daylight
3. Daylight
4. Ponga
5. Haas

 

[Foordy]

The complication in that is the Broncos want to rip up that contract and replace it with a new, longer one. Which effectively puts him on the market, albeit in an opportunity cost kind of way.

that is the biggets load of shit you've ever dribbled ... and that's saying something.

 

[McHunt]

Didnt we just want to extend it? Cant recall us saying anything about tearing up what he has

The broncos understandably won’t entertain upgrading his current deal without an extension, so he has the option if he wants more money, but it’s not coming without something in return. The club has all the bargaining power atm, he can either work with them or wait 3 years and leave.

Completely get your point however, it’s pretty hard to accept that he/his manager may be shopping himself around to other clubs with years still left on his current contract.
I don’t read/hear Tommy T or Teddy shopping themselves around years out from their contracts expiration.
It would all make sense if he were about to come off contract, but he isn’t.
Add to this the Broncos have already given him an upgrade. Possibly in hindsight we shouldn’t have, because it sounds like he thinks he’s a lock for another upgrade.

Maybe clubs need to start adding clauses into contracts that if a players form drops they owe the club money back. Wouldn’t that be funny..
Milford never gave back a cent from the million dollars a year he rorted from us when not performing. But hey, that’s the clubs fault for signing a player on big dollars.
But when a player is performing and isn’t earning as much money as other top tier players they’re demanding an upgrade.
Its pie in the sky stuff I know, but still it’s funny how this stuff seems to work in only one direction.

Honestly, I don't know what all the parties are up to - and don't quote me on this - but my recollection was that the deal being shoveled through the board involved a whole new contract, meaning the old one would effectively be "ripped up."

So Payne would still need to get an idea of his market value before accepting this new deal. He'd still need to ask those same questions of other clubs. And he'd need to do this before accepting the Broncos offer. As in he'd need to know now. In other words, he would have to put himself "on the market" even though he's not yet ready for sale.

Bear in mind, the club is pushing this urgency, not Payne. Meanwhile, his agent is rubbing his hands together waiting for the payday.

There's also the question of what implication severing his ties with Orr had on his current Broncos contract. I haven't seen an answer either way on that. Only reams of speculation.

 

[McHunt]

that is the biggets load of shit you've ever dribbled ... and that's saying something.

You clearly don't understand the process of renegotiating a contract. But that's not surprising for a bloke still trying to figure out what the button does on a flush toilet.