Barba vs Boyd

Re: Brisbane Broncos scrap co-captains

for the last year or 2 Boyd has been poor at both ...

And yet could still score an almost length of the field try which is something nobody in this team could do by themselves. Can't win a comp if we can only score from the inside the opposition 50.
 
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1987 lost to Manly with the Raiders

Oh I always forget he started with the raiders. Anyway there's only so much anyone can do to compensate for Don Furner.

How's that for an excuse ;)

I stand by my original point.
 
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And yet could still score an almost length of the field try which is something nobody in this team could do by themselves. Can't win a comp if we can only score from the inside the opposition 50.

and if he could do that consistently (which he hasn't done for 3 fucking years) ... i'd be happy to have him start at fullback, but a couple of length of the field tries A YEAR is not going to win us the premiership.
 
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and if he could do that consistently (which he hasn't done for 3 ****ing years) ... i'd be happy to have him start at fullback, but a couple of length of the field tries A YEAR is not going to win us the premiership.

Plenty of people around here think that's exactly what Barba will do...
 
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and if he could do that consistently (which he hasn't done for 3 fucking years) ... i'd be happy to have him start at fullback, but a couple of length of the field tries A YEAR is not going to win us the premiership.

Just one or two of them this year in some of those close games could have won us a top 4 spot. Just two caught high balls at the back would have won us a few more. And yes, he ran away from one ball. He was having a frustrating year. Something I'm sure being paid will help. And yes, I know we aren't allowed to use excuses around here without having our head bit off, but there's no way anyone could honestly say they'd try 100% whilst not getting paid.
 
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Dugan was told not to do anything else wrong, he did. I'm sure Packer will be told not to as well if he is signed. And before anyone bites my head off or tells me I lack morals (Wouldn't be the first time around here) I don't want Packer. But looking from both angles is something a few people on here need to start doing.

but if you add everything Carney has done with everything Dugan has done and multiply it by ten ... it still doesn't equal what Packer has done.

hopefully the NRL will do the right thing and refuse to register a contract for Packer .... not holding out much hope of the NRL doing the right thing though.

I mean if they didn't register and contract (for 12 months) for Carney after he was sacked from the Raiders, and have said they would be unlikely to register a contract for Carney ever again after his Sharks sacking, how could they possibly register one for Packer. but we all know what the SOPs are for the NRL administration are. (i.e be as inconsistent as humanly possible, be hypocrites, be amateurish).

the other hope i have and I think it is more likely, is that Cleary really wants Packer, and is as good a negotiator as he is coach, and can convince Packer to go to the Panthers
 
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Just one or two of them this year in some of those close games could have won us a top 4 spot. Just two caught high balls at the back would have won us a few more. And yes, he ran away from one ball. He was having a frustrating year. Something I'm sure being paid will help. And yes, I know we aren't allowed to use excuses around here without having our head bit off, but there's no way anyone could honestly say they'd try 100% whilst not getting paid.

Firstly not having Hoggman at 5/8 for the majority of the year, would have won us one or two of those close games you refer to.

secondly, Boyd got paid his contracted Knights salary, but he (off his own bat) signed a contract that also contained a large portion of un-guaranteed TPA's. that is what he had problems with.

besides if my boss doesn't pay me, i don't turn up to work and just do a half assed job ... i don't show up period and I sue the fucker instead.
 
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I think Wayne only really wants Packer because we need a decent size front rower on the cheap side and the cupboards are pretty bare atm on the market.

Still not worth it ... we have some good young front rowers coming through plus there are some good front rowers in the ISC (and we also signed Garbutt, who is also big and cheap)

get them onto the bench and give them more than the token 7 minutes of Griffins game plan (or lack thereof)
 
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Firstly not having Hoggman at 5/8 for the majority of the year, would have won us one or two of those close games you refer to.

secondly, Boyd got paid his contracted Knights salary, but he (off his own bat) signed a contract that also contained a large portion of un-guaranteed TPA's. that is what he had problems with.

besides if my boss doesn't pay me, i don't turn up to work and just do a half assed job ... i don't show up period and I sue the fucker instead.

Weren't they all with Tinkler, so effectively, the club didn't pay him because Tinkler owned the club? And wages were late to the players from the club for a majority of the year. Only person whose wages were never late were Bennett's.
 
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Still not worth it ... we have some good young front rowers coming through plus there are some good front rowers in the ISC (and we also signed Garbutt, who is also big and cheap)

get them onto the bench and give them more than the token 7 minutes of Griffins game plan (or lack thereof)

They gave Garbutt like 700k for 3 years (not exactly cheap). That could have secured Hannant but Hook didn't want a bar of Hannant. We do have some kids coming thru but they are still fairly raw. Bennett has a knack of bringing front rowers on by easing them into it. Besides McGuire & Kennedy (Assuming Hannant is still unsigned), we have no one capable of filling in big minutes at prop (Taking into account he will play Parker & Thaiday in their correct positions). Packer has experience on his side. I wouldnt be fussed if we signed Mason either. A good seasoned vet to belt out 25-30 minutes of hard work on the cheap wouldn't be a bad investment to say the least.
 
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Killing it in attack is fine, what about the other half of the game.

Raiders were complete arse this year so it didn't really figure in the scheme of things but it will for us.
So let me get this straight.....

You think his fullback defense is bad, so you want to force him to make 20+ tackles a game on much larger second rowers and props?

Just one or two of them this year in some of those close games could have won us a top 4 spot. Just two caught high balls at the back would have won us a few more. And yes, he ran away from one ball. He was having a frustrating year. Something I'm sure being paid will help. And yes, I know we aren't allowed to use excuses around here without having our head bit off, but there's no way anyone could honestly say they'd try 100% whilst not getting paid.

He was getting paid, just not all of his third party agreements were being paid at the time. The majority of his $700k a year salary was being paid, as that is guaranteed by the club. For someone who has earned over $4mil in the last like 6 years, he probably wouldn't have even noticed that he was missing a small portion of his paycheck for a few weeks/months.

Using it as an excuse is a cop out.
 
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Weren't they all with Tinkler, so effectively, the club didn't pay him because Tinkler owned the club? And wages were late to the players from the club for a majority of the year. Only person whose wages were never late were Bennett's.

The wouldn't been permitted to be with any company that Tinkler owned otherwise they would have had to be declared under the cap, which from memory they wern't

Gasnier had a simliar situation when he ended his first stint at the Dragons and Craig Wing at Souths.

un-guaranteed TPAs are a good way to boost a players salary and help the club's salary cap, but the problem is when they fall through
 
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So let me get this straight.....

You think his fullback defense is bad, so you want to force him to make 20+ tackles a game on much larger second rowers and props?

It's not saying much but the Raiders looked a lot better when he was at 5/8. They won a few games too...
 
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Mason is still a great front rower, bends the line really well...but you gotta wonder when age finally starts catching up with him. He'll be 35 next year.
 
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It's not saying much but the Raiders looked a lot better when he was at 5/8. They won a few games too...

They beat the Sharks and Tigers (2 of the biggest rabbles of clubs in the league ATM, also the Sharks lost some of their best players due to ASADA)

and the Eels, who basically imploded at the back end of the season.
 
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