Barba vs Boyd

[1910]

Re: Brisbane Broncos scrap co-captains

And yet could still score an almost length of the field try which is something nobody in this team could do by themselves. Can't win a comp if we can only score from the inside the opposition 50.

51-100m tries of the finals teams after 26 rounds.

Broncos 9
Cowboys 5
Panthers 12
Roosters 13
Rabbits 8
Manly 12
Dogs 5
Storm 10

Souths or Dogs could well win a premiership with a small number of 51-100m tries.

 

[CaptainHook]

Re: The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

They beat the Sharks and Tigers (2 of the biggest rabbles of clubs in the league ATM, also the Sharks lost some of their best players due to ASADA)

and the Eels, who basically imploded at the back end of the season.

and arguably all of them had more to play for than the Raiders.

 

[Anonymous person]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

Why are people holding the Clive Churchill medal up on a pedestal as if it's some great achievement? It's literally just a man of the match award, nothing more.

 

[Cult]

Re: Brisbane Broncos scrap co-captains

51-100m tries of the finals teams after 26 rounds.

Broncos 9
Cowboys 5
Panthers 12
Roosters 13
Rabbits 8
Manly 12
Dogs 5
Storm 10

Souths or Dogs could well win a premiership with a small number of 51-100m tries.

Awesome, now tell me the stats that show how many were without having to pass the ball to someone else. We had the slowest team this year too.

 

[Alec]

Re: The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

I prefer "linebreaks in your own 50" as a statistic to "tries from your own 50". It's a bit more relevant in showing how much attacking footy you play. Of course neither of statistics are close to being perfect.

 

[Foordy]

Re: Brisbane Broncos scrap co-captains

51-100m tries of the finals teams after 26 rounds.

Broncos 9
Cowboys 5
Panthers 12
Roosters 13
Rabbits 8
Manly 12
Dogs 5
Storm 10

Souths or Dogs could well win a premiership with a small number of 51-100m tries.

stop bringing facts into this

 

[Porthoz]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

All this aside though porthoz.It's a good problem to have . we all have our preferred players. I have always rated Boyd. Sorry that he left. Glad he's coming back

As said above, I was confused with Inglis, who was the guy who won the Clive Churchill in the 5/8 spot.
Regardless, most of his career honours have been due to his cushy ride next to Inglis on the wing, which is where he belongs imo.

I don't rate Boyd as a fullback. He can catch bombs, is a strong ball runner and can execute Wayne's second man play well... but that's it. I'm not even sure I rate him ahead of Hoffman, much less Barba or Milford, because although he's a bit better attacker than Josh, he's a much worse defender.

Of course we all have favourites, but I don't think that's the point here...

Besides Barba, Milford and Hoffman competing for 2 spots, we also have the Nikorima boys coming through, and while I'm not too fussed about losing Kodi, I would be filthy if we lost Jayden was well because Darius and Wayne are inseparable!

 

[1910]

Re: Brisbane Broncos scrap co-captains

Awesome, now tell me the stats that show how many were without having to pass the ball to someone else. We had the slowest team this year too.

So you want 100m dummy half tries?

Would seem an easy stat to find-0

 

[CaptainHook]

Re: Brisbane Broncos scrap co-captains

So you want 100m dummy half tries?

Would seem an easy stat to find-0

Do you have a stat for "failing to complete a set after scoring points" or "kicking out on the full", surely we're leading those.

 

[Porthoz]

Re: The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

Dugan was told not to do anything else wrong, he did. I'm sure Packer will be told not to as well if he is signed. And before anyone bites my head off or tells me I lack morals (Wouldn't be the first time around here) I don't want Packer. But looking from both angles is something a few people on here need to start doing.

Maybe you should practice what you preach... you've pretty much been nothing more than a yes man to Bennett, his decisions and his supporters, since Hook's backstabbing.

Can someone explain to me how Boyd is being rated higher than Ben Barba, who has consistently been way better than Boyd in any season bar his first, including 2014, when one was coached by the "messiah", while the other was coached by the "worthless" Anthony Griffin...?

P.S. I'm pretty sure that Barba has easily scored more length of the field tries than Boyd over his career, and he's 2 years younger than Boyd!

 

[vertigo]

Re: The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

So let me get this straight.....

You think his fullback defense is bad, so you want to force him to make 20+ tackles a game on much larger second rowers and props?

There was a suggestion Milford would be played off the bench.

This place will implode if it happens :wacko:

 

[austin71]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

Don't know if it is anything to go by but Macca just said on Dan Vidots Instagram account. Hey mate turn up to meetings will ya then laughed? Probably nothing....

 

[Porthoz]

Re: The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

LOL, just kill me now!

 

[Splinter]

Re: Wayne Bennett related player movement discussion

As said above, I was confused with Inglis, who was the guy who won the Clive Churchill in the 5/8 spot.
Regardless, most of his career honours have been due to his cushy ride next to Inglis on the wing, which is where he belongs imo.

I don't rate Boyd as a fullback. He can catch bombs, is a strong ball runner and can execute Wayne's second man play well... but that's it. I'm not even sure I rate him ahead of Hoffman, much less Barba or Milford, because although he's a bit better attacker than Josh, he's a much worse defender.

Of course we all have favourites, but I don't think that's the point here...

Besides Barba, Milford and Hoffman competing for 2 spots, we also have the Nikorima boys coming through, and while I'm not too fussed about losing Kodi, I would be filthy if we lost Jayden was well because Darius and Wayne are inseparable!

Jayden is a hooker/ half so Boyd should not have any influence. He has also got at least two years left in 20s

 

[CaptainHook]

Re: The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

Maybe you should practice what you preach... you've pretty much been nothing more than a yes man to Bennett, his decisions and his supporters, since Hook's backstabbing.

Can someone explain to me how Boyd is being rated higher than Ben Barba, who has consistently been way better than Boyd in any season bar his first, including 2014, when one was coached by the "messiah", while the other was coached by the "worthless" Anthony Griffin...?

P.S. I'm pretty sure that Barba has easily scored more length of the field tries than Boyd over his career, and he's 2 years younger than Boyd!

Boyd is better than Barba. I know it's a matter of opinion but I believe it's true. He may not be as flashy but he's more effective and consistent. Look at their records. Boyd was awesome in 2009-10 and it culminated in a dominant performance in the 2010 decider. Compare that to Barba, who had an awesome year in 2012 and he got Canterbury to the big day almost single handedly but in the game that mattered most he couldn't produce his best. All that flashy stuff, like the 110m tries, may get you there but it won't win premierships. Phil Gould made a very telling comment about him that day saying "the game hasn't come to him in the way he would have liked" or something like that.

I don't get why Barba gets a free pass on this forum. Fair enough his ankle injuries have clearly had an effect but the guy is on record saying he is fit and should be producing his best. My opinion is that plenty of people on here jizzed themselves when he first signed with us, thinking his scintillating 2012 form, would be the norm. It hasn't happened and probably never will. So the bar gets lowered for him and excuses like Griffin, the halves, off-field issues etc get tossed about. The premier fullbacks in the competition go looking for the ball regardless of the coach, game plan etc...

 

[Huge]

Re: Brisbane Broncos scrap co-captains

What about wanting to bring Packer and Boyd to the club.

I'd say he is of to a mixed start.

When did he say he wants to bring Boyd here ? I might of missed it ?

 

[rhino]

Re: The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

Anyone have the link to the full press conference today ?

 

[Cult]

Re: The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

Maybe you should practice what you preach... you've pretty much been nothing more than a yes man to Bennett, his decisions and his supporters, since Hook's backstabbing.

Can someone explain to me how Boyd is being rated higher than Ben Barba, who has consistently been way better than Boyd in any season bar his first, including 2014, when one was coached by the "messiah", while the other was coached by the "worthless" Anthony Griffin...?

P.S. I'm pretty sure that Barba has easily scored more length of the field tries than Boyd over his career, and he's 2 years younger than Boyd!

I'm a yes man because I don't think the sky is falling and appreciate what he has done in the past? Right, well.. I'd rather be happy about this than whinge and bitch on a forum. Write a letter, dude. He's going to do what he wants and we will be successful from it, and even if we're not I'm still not going to bitch about it to the extent of a few people on here.

Looking at it from a few view points

Barba- Terrible this year and did nothing for most of the season. Will never play fullback again. Played well when moved to the halves.
Milford- Wants to play in the halves. Better than Barba in that position too.
Hoffman- Quality ball returns and can catch a bomb. Slows down after his first hit up and is slower for the rest of the game.
Eden- Don't know a lot about him. Probably won't get a run.
Hodges- Bad defensively, can't catch anything under his belly button. Gigantic turning circle. Can set up tries though.
Boyd- Can catch when motivated. Fast. Defends better than BHQ says. Will probably make the Broncos lose some "fans". Not the flashiest. Somehow made it on the wing for Queensland because of his form at fullback. Must be terrible.

The way I see it, unless we kick Ben Hunt out, we want to keep Milf happy so a move to the halves is on the cards, taking Barbas spot. Boyd is wayyyyyyyyy better than Barba, otherwise Barba would have taken that QLD and AUS wing spot off Boyd. Barba will hopefully get that bench utility spot and push his way back into the 13.

1 Boyd
2 Hoffman
3 Copely
4 Hodges
5 Vidot
6 Milford
14 Barba.

= More wins, hopefully a grand final.