Broncos 2021 Fullback = Tamika Upton?

The women’s game is great, it’s a shame the season isn’t longer.
 
vertigo said:
Darryb is a terrible footballer and an even worse person.

Suck my nuts baby💋
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Should we be worried if we haven’t heard from Darius and his wife for a few days? This seems somewhat irrational.
 
theshed said:
Why is it misogynistic?

Sure, a top female athlete will probably smoke most jubs off the street at their physical activity of choice but it’s been proven time and time again that there are very few sports/athletics in which a professional female athlete can compete with professional male athletes. It’s biology. No one is questioning the things the women can control like work ethic, perseverance and dedication.

This isn’t a topic I really care about but it’s a discussion forum and this thread is focused on how a woman would be a better first grade choice in the men’s team than other options. It’s just not true from a results stand point. You can argue she’d try harder all you want, and I’m sure it could be true. But I’d rather a team with a better chance of winning than of a better chance of trying hard.
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No one is saying she’d be better than every other nrl player, but such is the depth of nrl teams she’d be better than *some* of the nuffies running around out there. Clocked at over 30kph or something wasn’t she? Crazy. Kerrod Holland dreams of running that fast lol.
 
mrslong said:
No one is saying she’d be better than every other nrl player, but such is the depth of nrl teams she’d be better than *some* of the nuffies running around out there. Clocked at over 30kph or something wasn’t she? Crazy. Kerrod Holland dreams of running that fast lol.
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So do I to be honest.
 
mrslong said:
No one is saying she’d be better than every other nrl player, but such is the depth of nrl teams she’d be better than *some* of the nuffies running around out there. Clocked at over 30kph or something wasn’t she? Crazy. Kerrod Holland dreams of running that fast lol.
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I don't think this is a totally unreasonable argument to make. The physicality is a huge advantage to the men but even considering that, it's probably fair to say the very best NRLW player would at least be competitive against some of the fringe or lower quality NRL players out there.
 
mrslong said:
No one is saying she’d be better than every other nrl player, but such is the depth of nrl teams she’d be better than *some* of the nuffies running around out there. Clocked at over 30kph or something wasn’t she? Crazy. Kerrod Holland dreams of running that fast lol.
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TBF I’m not saying that if you set the bar low enough that you can’t find a single professional male that she would be a better first grade option than, if all other depth was depleted. Though at 65kg she would probably be a worse defensive option than almost any player to play NRL, and any kick returns or hit ups at her size would be extremely problematic. Most NRL players could comfortably pick her up by themselves and carry her over the sideline/dead ball line etc. She would have to possess such an incredibly elite level of evasiveness and skills to create opportunities for others just to overcome the physical short comings when comparing her to male players.

Regardless though, the thread says she should the starting fullback for the broncos NRL team, and then says “legit”. I don’t think she would legit be the best fullback option the broncos have. I honestly believe, ignoring injuries, she would be comfortably the worse possible option of our current line up to be an NRL fullback for the broncos. I don’t think it’s misogynistic as much as it is just very likely the truth.
 
broncos4life said:
You can only compare players with their peers. It’s like any sport men’s or women’s. Would Clive Churchill be as good if you put him in today’s game? **** no, not only would he look awful but he would most likely die. Does that make his achievements any less? Absolutely not.

There is nothing embarrassing about the women’s games and the only thing that is embarrassing is your attitude.
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And what "attitude" would that be?

Rugby league is a men's sport. And guess what - women's rugby league is SUBSIDISED by the men's revenue. In other words, money is being poured into a "sport" which cannot attract crowds nor sponsorship of any note.

I'll take it a step further - if women's rugby league continues to be SUBSIDISED by men's rugby league, it will eventually destroy the sport.

Why? Because anyone in business knows, that if you continue to send good money after bad return you will go broke!!!

Unfortunately, in today's political correct world, it's considered misogyny to point out such truths because virtue is all that matters.

If women's rugby league is so great - let it STAND ON ITS OWN AND PAY FOR ITSELF!
 
mrslong said:
The misogyny from some members is disheartening.
There would absolutely be women players in the wnrl that are better than some players in the nrl. I’m sure tamika Upton would be better than quite a few nrl players.

one of my bff’s was an elite runner, she was national champion back in the day. When she met her hubby he was impressed but said “but you wouldn’t be faster than me” lol. She challenged him to a race and absolutely killed him. She’d beat 95% of men she’s so fast. She’s just never gonna be as fast as the elite blokes. Same as the women. They’d never compete with the stars, but some of your average first graders aren’t fit to lace their boots.

for eg, 100% Brigginshaw is a better player than Croft. Put her in the team full time and she’s probably a better option than him. But she’s not gonna be a better option than a good nrl player.
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Mmm. Me thinks you are unaware of the basic differences between men and women.

Your anecdotal example of a fast women beating some men isn't really relevant. The fact is that on average, men are faster, stronger and more powerful in all aspects of physical ability.

Many people have watched too much Hollywood movies - where these days women are continually portrayed as men-beating martial artists who can beat a dozen men in a fight. NEWSFLASH: That's fiction!

As I shared earlier, the fact that the world champion women's soccer team was beaten by a team of under 15 boys in their trials is typical. The fact that hundreds of sub-16-year-old boys break the women's all time 100 metre record every year is indicative.

How do you prove that Brigginshaw is better than Croft? That's utter nonsense.
 
DazzaT62 said:
Mmm. Me thinks you are unaware of the basic differences between men and women.

Your anecdotal example of a fast women beating some men isn't really relevant. The fact is that on average, men are faster, stronger and more powerful in all aspects of physical ability.

Many people have watched too much Hollywood movies - where these days women are continually portrayed as men-beating martial artists who can beat a dozen men in a fight. NEWSFLASH: That's fiction!

As I shared earlier, the fact that the world champion women's soccer team was beaten by a team of under 15 boys in their trials is typical. The fact that hundreds of sub-16-year-old boys break the women's all time 100 metre record every year is indicative.

How do you prove that Brigginshaw is better than Croft? That's utter nonsense.
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Read my post again, it answers a lot of the points you’re trying to make
 
mrslong said:
The misogyny from some members is disheartening.
There would absolutely be women players in the wnrl that are better than some players in the nrl. I’m sure tamika Upton would be better than quite a few nrl players.
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Yeah sorry......I stopped reading. You are off your head if you believe what you've said above is true. Please try and insert some reality into the conversation.
 
mrslong said:
No one is saying she’d be better than every other nrl player, but such is the depth of nrl teams she’d be better than *some* of the nuffies running around out there. Clocked at over 30kph or something wasn’t she? Crazy. Kerrod Holland dreams of running that fast lol.
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What? Are we playing touch football are we.....? Maybe if we were, you might be onto something you could call substance.

The truth is we are NOT PLAYING TOUCH FOOTBALL.
 
Mr Fourex said:
I'm hearing ya.......I'm still waiting for someone to say "gotcha".
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DazzaT62 said:
And what "attitude" would that be?

Rugby league is a men's sport. And guess what - women's rugby league is SUBSIDISED by the men's revenue. In other words, money is being poured into a "sport" which cannot attract crowds nor sponsorship of any note.

I'll take it a step further - if women's rugby league continues to be SUBSIDISED by men's rugby league, it will eventually destroy the sport.

Why? Because anyone in business knows, that if you continue to send good money after bad return you will go broke!!!

Unfortunately, in today's political correct world, it's considered misogyny to point out such truths because virtue is all that matters.

If women's rugby league is so great - let it STAND ON ITS OWN AND PAY FOR ITSELF!
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Its not subsidized anything like what you think, clubs still spend the vast percentage to run it(especially Broncos) and it is on TV so there is money coming from that, but even still the game owns it and it's margin for growth is significantly higher then the mens game considering that is already well established, having half of the countries demographic more involved in the game is just smart business.
 
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