Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2021

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I really think we should get both James and Peachy they would be 2 good pick ups for our club, even though the article states we have ruled Peachy out. He will provide real good versatility and James will be good experience for the forwards
 
theshed said:
I think the jury is still out.

People saw an article about the highest paid players and there were players mentioned on less than the rumoured Flegler contract and Flegler wasn’t mentioned at all. A lot of people have seemingly took that to be concrete evidence he’s on less money than the lowest amount on that list.

That could be the case but it’s also just as likely that whichever toss wrote that article did minimal research and just forget about Flegler.

Basically no one knows
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The more I think about yesterday's revelation that Haas got bumped $200k in April, the more I wonder about the rest of the year's narrative on salary cap problems, moving players on, and the recent Haas contract extension story.

I've been running with the assumption that Badel and Dobbo are pretty clued in, but much of what they know has been embargoed. And when they get cocky as ****, as they've done a few times, the club has given them the go ahead before their official announcements.

I'm wondering if they've known all along and that's why the pair of them went bananas last week over the board approving the offer, knowing there's been more to the picture. But if the club geniunely did keep it secret, that's a pretty tangled web they've been weaving: crying poor, but spending in the background.

That Badel didn't make a song and dance about it suggests to me he knew all along.

This kind of relationship isn't uncommon with journalists, especially in politics and product launches. It's tricky when the holder of embargoed knowledge is asked to make a prediction on the topic.
 
McHunt said:
The more I think about yesterday's revelation that Haas got bumped $200k in April, the more I wonder about the rest of the year's narrative on salary cap problems, moving players on, and the recent Haas contract extension story.

I've been running with the assumption that Badel and Dobbo are pretty clued in, but much of what they know has been embargoed. And when they get cocky as ****, as they've done a few times, the club has given them the go ahead before their official announcements.

I'm wondering if they've known all along and that's why the pair of them went bananas last week over the board approving the offer, knowing there's been more to the picture. But if the club geniunely did keep it secret, that's a pretty tangled web they've been weaving: crying poor, but spending in the background.

That Badel didn't make a song and dance about it suggests to me he knew all along.

This kind of relationship isn't uncommon with journalists, especially in politics and product launches. It's tricky when the holder of embargoed knowledge is asked to make a prediction on the topic.
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Hard to say but either way, outside of idiots like Weidler who seems to want clicks now regardless of how it makes him look tomorrow, it appears the club has recaptured control over the narratives.
 
theshed said:
Hard to say but either way, outside of idiots like Weidler who seems to want clicks now regardless of how it makes Jim look tomorrow, it appears the club has recaptured control over the narratives.
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Well yes, the way I see it Badel and Dobbo (and maybe some others) are in the loop, but Weidler is out of it.

I really need to nip this "click" stuff in the bud. Reporters don't give a **** about ad sales. It's not their territory. It's actually kind of insulting to suggest they would. Like accusing your doctor of being a rep for a pharmaceutical company. I'm not saying journalists are noble - at all - but they don't even have access to any mechanism that "clicks."

Here's how the process works:

1. Weidler gets a tip from someone. It's counter to what Badel has written.
2. Wants to one-up Badel to prove how smart he is. This is all Weidler is about.
3. Submits story to the paper.
4. Sub editor reads it, bashes it into shape, checks spelling, kicks the legal tyres.
5. An editor adds photos from stock. Someone else has cleared them first.
6. Sometimes the same editor, but often a more senior editor writes the headline, lede and attributes the byline to the author(s).
7. The story must now be fit to page. Words will need to be added or subtracted. Which might impact the context of the story.
8. Meanwhile, the advertising team is doing its own thing. The editorial staff up to this point don't want a bar of them. The larger the publisher, the bigger the wall between sales and editorial. As for the hyperlinks embedded in the piece, what ads are served, anything to do with the mechanics of site design or subscriptions, journalists don't get involved with any of that.
9. In the modern age stories are so ephemeral, the headlines change throughout the day, copy is added and snipped, errors are caught, and the story becomes a work in progress.

If you find a newspaper, or a section, tends to have misleading headlines it may be that's a senior editorial decision, maybe on instruction from publisher. The reporters are way down the food chain from there.
 
McHunt said:
Well yes, the way I see it Badel and Dobbo (and maybe some others) are in the loop, but Weidler is out of it.

I really need to nip this "click" stuff in the bud. Reporters don't give a **** about ad sales. It's not their territory. It's actually kind of insulting to suggest they would. Like accusing your doctor of being a rep for a pharmaceutical company. I'm not saying journalists are noble - at all - but they don't even have access to any mechanism that "clicks."

Here's how the process works:

1. Weidler gets a tip from someone. It's counter to what Badel has written.
2. Wants to one-up Badel to prove how smart he is. This is all Weidler is about.
3. Submits story to the paper.
4. Sub editor reads it, bashes it into shape, checks spelling, kicks the legal tyres.
5. An editor adds photos from stock. Someone else has cleared them first.
6. Sometimes the same editor, but often a more senior editor writes the headline, lede and attributes the byline to the author(s).
7. The story must now be fit to page. Words will need to be added or subtracted. Which might impact the context of the story.
8. Meanwhile, the advertising team is doing its own thing. The editorial staff up to this point don't want a bar of them. The larger the publisher, the bigger the wall between sales and editorial. As for the hyperlinks embedded in the piece, what ads are served, anything to do with the mechanics of site design or subscriptions, journalists don't get involved with any of that.
9. In the modern age stories are so ephemeral, the headlines change throughout the day, copy is added and snipped, errors are caught, and the story becomes a work in progress.
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he may not literally care about clicks. It’s just quicker to say clicks than to say Weilder is a morally void quote hunter who appears to have no respect for readers or subjects in an attempt to do the lowest possible effort to keep himself from being redundant.

The way he addressed TPJ above to try and force a story that also makes the broncos organisation and Haas look bad in the public eye is disgraceful. Yes it’s a job but so is being a dodgy handy man who pays the bills by talking vulnerable senior citizens into work they don’t need and charging exorbitant prices for low quality work.

He is feeding himself much like a leech does.
 
theshed said:
he may not literally care about clicks. It’s just quicker to say clicks than to say Weilder is a morally void quote hunter who appears to have no respect for readers or subjects in an attempt to do the lowest possible effort to keep himself from being redundant.

The way he addressed TPJ above to try and force a story that also makes the broncos organisation and Haas look bad in the public eye is disgraceful. Yes it’s a job but so is being a dodgy handy man who pays the bills by talking vulnerable senior citizens into work they don’t need and charging exorbitant prices for low quality work.

He is feeding himself much like a leech does.
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They are pretty much all morally void.
 
theshed said:
It’s just quicker to say clicks than to say Weilder is a morally void quote hunter who appears to have no respect for readers or subjects in an attempt to do the lowest possible effort to keep himself from being redundant.

The way he addressed TPJ above to try and force a story that also makes the broncos organisation and Haas look bad in the public eye is disgraceful. Yes it’s a job but so is being a dodgy handy man who pays the bills by talking vulnerable senior citizens into work they don’t need and charging exorbitant prices for low quality work.

He is feeding himself much like a leech does.
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I'm fine with all that, I'm just a stickler about the demarcation between editorial content and sales.
 
McHunt said:
I'm fine with all that, I'm just a stickler about the demarcation between editorial content and sales.
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Semantics.

It’s like calling predatory lawyers “Ambulance chasers” and then someone pointing out “actually, lawyers don’t even chase ambulances. The marketing team puts billboards up in low socioeconomic areas”.
 
Wolfie said:
They are pretty much all morally void.
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Well I know a lot of journalists and I don't think that's fair. Their job is to find out stuff and then run back and tell you. They don't always get the story right, and neither do you when you repeat it to someone else.
 
McHunt said:
Well I know a lot of journalists and I don't think that's fair. Their job is to find out stuff and then run back and tell you. They don't always get the story right, and neither do you when you repeat it to someone else.
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Chris Garry does a great job of doing that without being a total scumbag. Many seem to struggle with it.
 
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