Cobbo: “I think he’s a nice guy but not a good coach”

[Sproj]

This idea of the broncos being a flagship club needs to go out the door if we are to ever become one again. It was true once upon a time but that was a long, long time ago. This type of thinking is how the rot set in and the club slowly came to be in the position it’s in.

We are not a powerhouse club anymore in terms of on field performance but off field, we absolutely are. We should use that off field strength to improve out awful on field performance. We have so much clout that we need to use SELECTIVELY. Unfortunately, the last time we did it, it was run by morons and we gave up Bennett for Seibold but just because that decision was truly horrendous, the idiot that made it is gone.

If it comes to finding out/believing that Smith for example is the guy we want to build our future around BASED ON EVIDENCE (unlike Seibold) , screw it, step on toes to get him. I don't care about coming across as entitled, we should do so. Look at the way the Storm and Roosters are run, massive entitlement issues and they are two of the most successful clubs of the last 20 years.

Nothing wrong with using entitlement if you have weight to back it up and use it SELECTIVELY and where it REALLY makes a difference.

 

[BroncosFever]

the salary cap doesn't mean shit when we're talking about coaches.

it's one area where we can actually use our financial clout

I thought they implemented a cap on coaches

 

[Mr Fourex]

He’s a kid, kids are stupid and do stupid things, that’s how they learn not to do stupid things again. If he walks out on another game then yeah, sure, crucifiy his character, but until then I think we should appreciate how young & naive he still is.

Yeah ....nahh.

Thats bullshit........

 

[Mr Fourex]

Hodges

Get him to put a couple on Selwyn's chin while he's at it.......

 

[broncos4life]

I thought they implemented a cap on coaches

Yes and no. It's a soft cap so you can exceed it and if you do it is a financial penalty, a tax essentially.

 

[McHunt]

Venerated RL journalist, and friend of the fans, Buzz Rothfield:

“Look ... for footballers and sportsmen podcasts are a lot different than doing live radio and live television and newspaper interviews because you get yourself into a relaxed environment, you drop your guard. My thought is you say what you really think. So I don’t wear his retraction. I think what he said in the podcast is actually what he thinks.”​

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“It’s a problem that’s very hard to take for Kevin Walters in that we’ve been mentioning for months that Anthony Griffin at St George Illawarra, Adam O’Brien at the Newcastle Knights and Justin Holbrook at the Titans are probably the three NRL coaches under the most pressure going into the news season. ... Well I think we can make that a quarter and three Kevin Walters in with the same level of pressure as those coaches."​

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“He had the Tyson Gamble blow-up last year, where Tyson Gamble on another podcast came out and said he basically didn’t rate Kev as a coach ... and that he turned to Adam Reynolds for his advice. Kevvie also had the blow up with Ben Ikin last year ... and Kevvie hasn’t been able to get over the fact that Ben is there as the football manager and he’s got so much to offer. He hasn’t, as far as I’m concerned, taken what Ben has got to offer on board."​

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“There’s been the Reece Walsh drama on the Gold Coast a week ago, his fight with David Fifita, And through no no fault of his own Payne Haas is away on personal leave ... that’s a horrible story with the charges his mum’s facing. So the club is dealing with a lot of turmoil. It’going to take great leadership to get them out of it on the eve of the season."​

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“It’s a club that has continually had big issues for a long period of time, going back to Wayne Bennett’’s messy exit. To all the drama around Anthony Seibold and his departure from the club.”​

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“Everything at an NRL club on the field starts with the coach and the coach and the coach has to accept full responsibility for the results. But when the drama is so wide-ranging and as broad as what they’re dealing with now, this is a real test for the leadership of their CEO Dave Donaghy who has to step in and he has to fix this mess. He has to get every single player, the coaches, Ben Ikin, all working together as a team to stop what’s happening right now .. because this is a story that will not go away.”​

 

[BroncosFever]

You're not wrong, Phil

 

[pagey]

Get him to put a couple on Selwyn's chin while he's at it.......

lol yeah , but Hodges wasn't much better it took him some lessons to come good.

 

[nopatience101]

Youth can’t excuse everything. Especially when he was told by his employer that he had to be there and his use of the word “sneak” means he knew it wasn’t the right thing to do.

Real kids, you know 14 and 15 year olds, not a 20 year old man, know to support your team mates.

I wasn’t excusing it, I was understanding it.

Coming from living a pretty isolated life in cherbourg to living in Brisbane as a professional athlete at the highest profile club in the state would be quite the culture shock.

 

[BroncosFever]

I wasn’t excusing it, I was understanding it.

Coming from living a pretty isolated life in cherbourg to living in Brisbane as a professional athlete at the highest profile club in the state would be quite the culture shock.

Pretty sure no matter where you come from, you'd probably be expected to support your mates

 

[Renegade]

I wasn’t excusing it, I was understanding it.

Coming from living a pretty isolated life in cherbourg to living in Brisbane as a professional athlete at the highest profile club in the state would be quite the culture shock.

I can understand the media fuckup based on that, but surely teamwork/team spirit is not regionally specific.

 

[nopatience101]

Venerated RL journalist, and friend of the fans, Buzz Rothfield:

“Look ... for footballers and sportsmen podcasts are a lot different than doing live radio and live television and newspaper interviews because you get yourself into a relaxed environment, you drop your guard. My thought is you say what you really think. So I don’t wear his retraction. I think what he said in the podcast is actually what he thinks.”​

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“It’s a problem that’s very hard to take for Kevin Walters in that we’ve been mentioning for months that Anthony Griffin at St George Illawarra, Adam O’Brien at the Newcastle Knights and Justin Holbrook at the Titans are probably the three NRL coaches under the most pressure going into the news season. ... Well I think we can make that a quarter and three Kevin Walters in with the same level of pressure as those coaches."​

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“He had the Tyson Gamble blow-up last year, where Tyson Gamble on another podcast came out and said he basically didn’t rate Kev as a coach ... and that he turned to Adam Reynolds for his advice. Kevvie also had the blow up with Ben Ikin last year ... and Kevvie hasn’t been able to get over the fact that Ben is there as the football manager and he’s got so much to offer. He hasn’t, as far as I’m concerned, taken what Ben has got to offer on board."​

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“There’s been the Reece Walsh drama on the Gold Coast a week ago, his fight with David Fifita, And through no no fault of his own Payne Haas is away on personal leave ... that’s a horrible story with the charges his mum’s facing. So the club is dealing with a lot of turmoil. It’going to take great leadership to get them out of it on the eve of the season."​

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“It’s a club that has continually had big issues for a long period of time, going back to Wayne Bennett’’s messy exit. To all the drama around Anthony Seibold and his departure from the club.”​

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“Everything at an NRL club on the field starts with the coach and the coach and the coach has to accept full responsibility for the results. But when the drama is so wide-ranging and as broad as what they’re dealing with now, this is a real test for the leadership of their CEO Dave Donaghy who has to step in and he has to fix this mess. He has to get every single player, the coaches, Ben Ikin, all working together as a team to stop what’s happening right now .. because this is a story that will not go away.”​

Surprisingly cogent from rothfield.

 

[nopatience101]

I can understand the media fuckup based on that, but surely teamwork/team spirit is not regionally specific.

Distractions… I don’t think he left by himself to go home and read a book.

None of it is an excuse, and if he doesn’t learn from it and mature into a more disciplined professional his career won’t last long.

 

[Financeguy]

I wasn’t excusing it, I was understanding it.

Coming from living a pretty isolated life in cherbourg to living in Brisbane as a professional athlete at the highest profile club in the state would be quite the culture shock.

Sure, but i think this instance was a case of Cobbo knowing what the right thing to do was (stick around like the club asked you to and tough out a rough night with your team mates) and the wrong thing (sneak off - easy option)

I'm not sure his choice/option has anything to do with coming from a remote town or just being 20 years old...he just wanted the easy way out which to me is a huge concern as its a horrible attitude or character trait for someone in arguably the toughest sport in the world. Normally the coach can assist in turning this around but you combine this with his thoughts in Kevvie and its a bit of a worry...

 

[BroncosFever]

I hope his mates are supporting him more than he supported them in the 2nd half of that game because like I said, he can get away with bagging the coach.. however, ditching your mates?

He's going to be copping it from everywhere

 

[BroncosFever]

Sure, but i think this instance was a case of Cobbo knowing what the right thing to do was (stick around like the club asked you to and tough out a rough night with your team mates) and the wrong thing (sneak off - easy option)

I'm not sure his choice/option has anything to do with coming from a remote town or just being 20 years old...he just wanted the easy way out which to me is a huge concern as its a horrible attitude or character trait for someone in arguably the toughest sport in the world. Normally the coach can assist in turning this around but you combine this with his thoughts in Kevvie and its a bit of a worry...

Attitude would be the hardest thing to change in an individual

 

[McHunt]

Starts 7 mins in. Only interesting comment (to me) was about (unnamed) players saying Kevvie is pretty poor technically as a coach, maybe because he can't communicate his skills to development players. Or something like that.

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[pagey]

Sure, but i think this instance was a case of Cobbo knowing what the right thing to do was (stick around like the club asked you to and tough out a rough night with your team mates) and the wrong thing (sneak off - easy option)

I'm not sure his choice/option has anything to do with coming from a remote town or just being 20 years old...he just wanted the easy way out which to me is a huge concern as its a horrible attitude or character trait for someone in arguably the toughest sport in the world. Normally the coach can assist in turning this around but you combine this with his thoughts in Kevvie and its a bit of a worry...

which is what alot of young people do , take the easy option.
that's why I think it's important to teach him and not punish him, if he isn't learning then you punish/punt him.