DCE backflips to stay at Manly

[Morkel]

Oh you are right alrighty about his reasons and you're right in that everyone is entitled to their opinion except that some of us are realists, people who actually know how people will behave given the right inducements. The old saying is true that everyone has their price.
Each and everyone of DCEs detractors could be bought, their word, their integrity. It's the sanctimonious amongst his detractors that irritate me, the ones that claim 'oh no,I wouldn't take that much better deal because I'm so honourable' when in fact if you stood in front of them , laying the cash and inducements out and all they have to do is say yes, they would reach a point where they'd fold and accept .
Then the rationalising would begin. Oh so predictable human beings. Yet still they read this and say, not me. Delusional and judgemental.

You're making it sound like he had the choice between $10 million and nothing. And that's bullshit. The sticking point is that Manly said "we made the mistake by setting a deadline" to accept their offer, which, when passed, forced DCE to look elsewhere. DCE didn't need to deliberately use another club, compromising the plans of both that club and his, for months on end, and he certainly didn't need to lie to people's faces. He could have simply instructed his manager to put together the best offer that he thought would be palatable to Manly. Deadline or not, if they want him they'll take it, especially if Foran is alteady gone. It might not be $10 million and a controlling voice in how the team is ran. But it would be enough. Acting like a petulant, slimy, dishonest **** might be worth an extra 20% for some, but like it or not, not everyone. Not if they can still get a fuckload of money and retain some dignity.

 

[Nashy]

You're making it sound like he had the choice between $10 million and nothing. And that's bullshit. The sticking point is that Manly said "we made the mistake by setting a deadline" to accept their offer, which, when passed, forced DCE to look elsewhere. DCE didn't need to deliberately use another club, compromising the plans of both that club and his, for months on end, and he certainly didn't need to lie to people's faces. He could have simply instructed his manager to put together the best offer that he thought would be palatable to Manly. Deadline or not, if they want him they'll take it, especially if Foran is alteady gone. It might not be $10 million and a controlling voice in how the team is ran. But it would be enough. Acting like a petulant, slimy, dishonest **** might be worth an extra 20% for some, but like it or not, not everyone. Not if they can still get a fuckload of money and retain some dignity.

This.

It shows the character of the man. Some people don't care, some do. Those who don't care certainly shouldn't be talking down to those who do care.

 

[levikaden]

Wow man. You really shafted that guy that I don't know by not taking his cheap ass job. It's an outrage. I bet it bothers you everyday with only a measly $600 bucks a week for compensation. The shame.

A measly 600 extra.. im certainly not bothered.

 

[Huge]

You're making it sound like he had the choice between $10 million and nothing. And that's bullshit. The sticking point is that Manly said "we made the mistake by setting a deadline" to accept their offer, which, when passed, forced DCE to look elsewhere. DCE didn't need to deliberately use another club, compromising the plans of both that club and his, for months on end, and he certainly didn't need to lie to people's faces. He could have simply instructed his manager to put together the best offer that he thought would be palatable to Manly. Deadline or not, if they want him they'll take it, especially if Foran is alteady gone. It might not be $10 million and a controlling voice in how the team is ran. But it would be enough. Acting like a petulant, slimy, dishonest **** might be worth an extra 20% for some, but like it or not, not everyone. Not if they can still get a fuckload of money and retain some dignity.

Amazing...you actually think you know precisely what transpired. How fucking certain are you ! How judgemental ! Of course I never made any such call that your first line makes out, how silly a statement . Unlike you I don't know what happened, when it happened or how it happened. Unlike you I wasn't privy to the conversations between DCE and the concerned parties. I suppose you read some conjecture and take it as fact or listen to the dribbler Paul Kent, another know all who thinks he's oh so better.

 

[1910]

I thought it was a six year contract with a 2 year option. In any case I think they might end up like the Cowboys with Thurston, with one gun half but no money to buy him a decent partner. Anyone who comes in cheap or through the juniors might have a few good years then have to leave for another club, as I understand DCEis guaranteed is certain slice of the salary cap (~25% or so).

In general it's a pretty shitty thing he did to the Titans, but honestly I can't say I wouldn't do the same in his situation. It's easy to be a moral saint on the internet without any cost, but as a man with a young family it'd be hard to turn down a guaranteed minimum $10 million, especially in an industry where one unlucky injury can take away a career in a second. I don't at all agree with what he did or how it was done, but it's difficult to stand in judgement.

Yeah 8 year contract, 6 locked in and two in his favour. That was a huge sticking point who gets the two in their favour.

 

[Kimlo]

Yeah 8 year contract, 6 locked in and two in his favour. That was a huge sticking point who gets the two in their favour.

That's a huge risk. I'm assuming the 8 years begins from next year, he'll be 33 at the end of the 6 years, 35 if he takes up the extra 2 years. If his form drops off later in his career Manly have just destroyed their chances for a long time. And the rumour is that his salary will go up as a % of the salary cap, so the situation won't get better if the salary cap rises.

 

[Alec]

Yeah, that's pretty insane. What's the longest contract we had at the Broncs? I think I remember Lockyer having a 5 year one before his last?

 

[Kimlo]

Yeah, that's pretty insane. What's the longest contract we had at the Broncs? I think I remember Lockyer having a 5 year one before his last?

That's the longest I remember. And Locky was arguably the best player in the game, so that was a great signing and I remember it wasn't for a ridiculous amount.

DCE is good, but not highest paid player in the game good, nor do I think he's a certainty to be a brilliant long term player.

Not that I care, I'm glad he back flipped so he can just screw over Manly long term.

 

[Porthoz]

That's the longest I remember. And Locky was arguably the best player in the game, so that was a great signing and I remember it wasn't for a ridiculous amount.

DCE is good, but not highest paid player in the game good, nor do I think he's a certainty to be a brilliant long term player.

Not that I care, I'm glad he back flipped so he can just screw over Manly long term.

Another silver lining. :wink:

 

[Huge]

I actually want DCE to succeed as qld will derive a benefit . Just because we have a few coming through doesn't mean we should be complacent or smug. You can never have too many champions ready to play for QLD !

 

[Morkel]

I for one would prefer to see Ben Hunt continually improve and have DCE gradually fade away to obscurity as Qld cruise to 19 series wins in 20 years. A boy can dream.

 

[broncos4life]

I for one would prefer to see Ben Hunt continually improve and have DCE gradually fade away to obscurity as Qld cruise to 19 series wins in 20 years. A boy can dream.

This is what I want too

 

[Porthoz]

I for one would prefer to see Ben Hunt continually improve and have DCE gradually fade away to obscurity as Qld cruise to 19 series wins in 20 years. A boy can dream.

Obscurity is arsehole domain, so he'll feel at home.

 

[Black Philip]

I really hope Queenslanders can get over this before Origin 2. Before Cronk was injured I didn't want DCE selected for the rest of the series. Not because I hold a grudge against him, but for his own good considering how fans were talking about him. Last week people were being completely hysterical about this and being completely honest, I found it way over the top and a bit embarrassing.

It's happened now and it can't be changed. Hopefully everyone can move on and won't have a problem with backing him in a Queensland jersey next week.

 

[Foordy]

I really hope Queenslanders can get over this before Origin 2. Before Cronk was injured I didn't want DCE selected for the rest of the series. Not because I hold a grudge against him, but for his own good considering how fans were talking about him. Last week people were being completely hysterical about this and being completely honest, I found it way over the top and a bit embarrassing.

It's happened now and it can't be changed. Hopefully everyone can move on and won't have a problem with backing him in a Queensland jersey next week.

Sorry mate, if you want to get selected over Hunt ... Then start playing better than him

 

[Nashy]

Sorry mate, if you want to get selected over Hunt ... The start playing better than him

Well he's got that down pat. So DCE it is.

 

[Black Philip]

Sorry mate, if you want to get selected over Hunt ... The start playing better than him

It's not up to me champ, it's up to Mal. And he will probably select DCE.

 

[ningnangnong]

It's not up to me champ, it's up to Mal. And he will probably select DCE.

Rightly so, IMO.

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