Dear NRL HQ & the media...

Mustafur

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Insufferable ***** like Kent, Hooper and Crawley don't need much of an excuse to go to war with the RLPA and the players in general. You only need to see what happened between Hooper and the Canberra players to know what those two camps think of each other under the skin.

I will always be 100% behind the players, because 1. they aren't on fucking Newscorp's payroll and 2. they actually push passes rather than pencils, so they are far more qualified to have an opinion on the subject.
They have made the concussion issue political, the real issue is low tackles not head highs.

These clowns who haven't played a game of football, thinking V'landys is the messiah because he saved the game when every single sport in this country has survived Covid even the A-league which was on it's last legs even before covid happened. it makes me sick how obviously bias these clowns are, the paper bags are in clear sight.

The only real solutions that have come through i have seen have been the limitations on contact training like the NFL, I fully agree with this as would most people, they think they can guilt trip people into thinking the insignificant part of what creates concussions being heavily scrutinised is the only way to stop it but its all false.

Look at Jake friend the most recent and notable player in the last 10 years to retire purely from head knocks, his last few head knocks all came from him tackling not being clobbered with the ball high, it's fucking crickets when you try bring this up to these frauds.
 

Midean

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They have made the concussion issue political, the real issue is low tackles not head highs.

These clowns who haven't played a game of football, thinking V'landys is the messiah because he saved the game when every single sport in this country has survived Covid even the A-league which was on it's last legs even before covid happened. it makes me sick how obviously bias these clowns are, the paper bags are in clear sight.

The only real solutions that have come through i have seen have been the limitations on contact training like the NFL, I fully agree with this as would most people, they think they can guilt trip people into thinking the insignificant part of what creates concussions being heavily scrutinised is the only way to stop it but its all false.

Look at Jake friend the most recent and notable player in the last 10 years to retire purely from head knocks, his last few head knocks all came from him tackling not being clobbered with the ball high, it's fucking crickets when you try bring this up to these frauds.
This is exactly right.

The numpties gargling Vlandys balls spend all their time calling out high tackles (which have ALWAYS been illegal) as the main culprit for concussions when its just not true.

Gus came out 2 weeks ago and tried to point it out that most head knocks in the game come from a defender tackling low and colliding with the hips/legs of the player.

Of course there is accidental contact, its a contact sport, and accidents will happen, you will NEVER remove accidental head contact from the game, and those will lead to concussions as well.

Short of turning the game into touch footy, the NRL are going about this all wrong.
They need to to enforce a known risk policy.
If you decide to become a first grade NRL player, you accept the risk that comes with the giant pay check.
Of course the game will still do its best to prevent unnecessary damage, but you will never remove it from the game, especially when the "best" players in the game are falling into tackles Tedesco style.

The latest scumbag move from Vlandys mafia is to push Mortimer out as the face of dementia, in order to further their narrative.
They asked Mortimer if he thought the head knocks were the reason for his dementia and he said he was certain that was the case, even though Mortimer is NOT a fucking doctor and the leading cause of dementia is "AGING".

People who become cops, or join the Military, know that joining those occupations brings with it a potential risk of injury or death in the line of duty.
The same with professional race car drivers and MMA fighers.
All of these occupations carry a potential risk of serious immediate injury and long term injury, yet we dont hear of the UFC, the Army, the Police or Formula One getting sued for CTE issues.

Apologies for the long winded rambling post, but it has got to the point where the game is being fucked over by men who have no right to be calling the shots, under the guise of caring for peoples wellbeing when in reality they are terrified of being sued and losing their cheddar, nothing more.

/end rant
 

lynx000

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This is exactly right.

The numpties gargling Vlandys balls spend all their time calling out high tackles (which have ALWAYS been illegal) as the main culprit for concussions when its just not true.

Gus came out 2 weeks ago and tried to point it out that most head knocks in the game come from a defender tackling low and colliding with the hips/legs of the player.

Of course there is accidental contact, its a contact sport, and accidents will happen, you will NEVER remove accidental head contact from the game, and those will lead to concussions as well.

Short of turning the game into touch footy, the NRL are going about this all wrong.
They need to to enforce a known risk policy.
If you decide to become a first grade NRL player, you accept the risk that comes with the giant pay check.
Of course the game will still do its best to prevent unnecessary damage, but you will never remove it from the game, especially when the "best" players in the game are falling into tackles Tedesco style.

The latest scumbag move from Vlandys mafia is to push Mortimer out as the face of dementia, in order to further their narrative.
They asked Mortimer if he thought the head knocks were the reason for his dementia and he said he was certain that was the case, even though Mortimer is NOT a fucking doctor and the leading cause of dementia is "AGING".

People who become cops, or join the Military, know that joining those occupations brings with it a potential risk of injury or death in the line of duty.
The same with professional race car drivers and MMA fighers.
All of these occupations carry a potential risk of serious immediate injury and long term injury, yet we dont hear of the UFC, the Army, the Police or Formula One getting sued for CTE issues.

Apologies for the long winded rambling post, but it has got to the point where the game is being fucked over by men who have no right to be calling the shots, under the guise of caring for peoples wellbeing when in reality they are terrified of being sued and losing their cheddar, nothing more.

/end rant
I say again - volenti non fit injuria.

The defence has always been available.
 

Midean

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I say again - volenti non fit injuria.

The defence has always been available.
I had to google that, but that is exactly what is needed here.
Literally every legal problem surrounding CTE solved in one go without needing to overreact and implement ridiculous changes to the game.

I dont understand why they have not gone down this route?
It must come down to grass roots footy.
Less and less parents are letting their kids get involved in contact sports due to risk of injury?
So Vlandys and Co are trying to promote the game as far safer to increase participation at all levels of the game?
If thats the case, you make all these rule changes mandatory for anything lower than first grade football.
But upon joining the NRL you accept the risk that at the highest level of the game, comes the highest level of risk and the highest wage.
 

Sproj

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This is exactly right.

The numpties gargling Vlandys balls spend all their time calling out high tackles (which have ALWAYS been illegal) as the main culprit for concussions when its just not true.

Gus came out 2 weeks ago and tried to point it out that most head knocks in the game come from a defender tackling low and colliding with the hips/legs of the player.

Of course there is accidental contact, its a contact sport, and accidents will happen, you will NEVER remove accidental head contact from the game, and those will lead to concussions as well.

Short of turning the game into touch footy, the NRL are going about this all wrong.
They need to to enforce a known risk policy.
If you decide to become a first grade NRL player, you accept the risk that comes with the giant pay check.
Of course the game will still do its best to prevent unnecessary damage, but you will never remove it from the game, especially when the "best" players in the game are falling into tackles Tedesco style.

The latest scumbag move from Vlandys mafia is to push Mortimer out as the face of dementia, in order to further their narrative.
They asked Mortimer if he thought the head knocks were the reason for his dementia and he said he was certain that was the case, even though Mortimer is NOT a fucking doctor and the leading cause of dementia is "AGING".

People who become cops, or join the Military, know that joining those occupations brings with it a potential risk of injury or death in the line of duty.
The same with professional race car drivers and MMA fighers.
All of these occupations carry a potential risk of serious immediate injury and long term injury, yet we dont hear of the UFC, the Army, the Police or Formula One getting sued for CTE issues.

Apologies for the long winded rambling post, but it has got to the point where the game is being fucked over by men who have no right to be calling the shots, under the guise of caring for peoples wellbeing when in reality they are terrified of being sued and losing their cheddar, nothing more.

/end rant

Great post!
 

Bongo

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They have made the concussion issue political, the real issue is low tackles not head highs.

These clowns who haven't played a game of football, thinking V'landys is the messiah because he saved the game when every single sport in this country has survived Covid even the A-league which was on it's last legs even before covid happened. it makes me sick how obviously bias these clowns are, the paper bags are in clear sight.

The only real solutions that have come through i have seen have been the limitations on contact training like the NFL, I fully agree with this as would most people, they think they can guilt trip people into thinking the insignificant part of what creates concussions being heavily scrutinised is the only way to stop it but its all false.

Look at Jake friend the most recent and notable player in the last 10 years to retire purely from head knocks, his last few head knocks all came from him tackling not being clobbered with the ball high, it's fucking crickets when you try bring this up to these frauds.
The players are more angry about the lack of consultation before rule changes last year and the impact on the game than they are the concussion stuff. Fox Sports TV shows may as well be on Sky News after dark. Unwatchable.
 

I bleed Maroon

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If it was that easy why didn't the NFL use it?

Because Americans love litigation for basically anything, and the NFL weren't prepared to get into a long and costly legal battle with every tom, dick and harry that came forward claiming CTE.

Australia is not America, despite what the idiot journos think.
 

BRC088

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It must come down to grass roots footy.
Less and less parents are letting their kids get involved in contact sports due to risk of injury

I understand this year is a record for Junior registrations for the BRL at least. Funny thing is, in my opinion, you see a lot more foul play in juniors than the NRL ever had - and a lot of it goes without punishment.
 

I bleed Maroon

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The bottom line viewpoint of the likes of Kent and Hooper (judging by tonight's 360) is pretty much the players should just sit down, shut up and bow down to Dear Leader V'landys and the RLPA are a "toothless tiger" anyway so who gives a shit what they think clearly. Also I love how Hooper immediately tried to shut down discussion about data because he can't wrap his little brain around any of it without his eyes glazing over. **** me they're a pair of pig headed flogs.
 

Foordy

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The bottom line viewpoint of the likes of Kent and Hooper (judging by tonight's 360) is pretty much the players should just sit down, shut up and bow down to Dear Leader V'landys and the RLPA are a "toothless tiger" anyway so who gives a shit what they think clearly. Also I love how Hooper immediately tried to shut down discussion about data because he can't wrap his little brain around any of it without his eyes glazing over. **** me they're a pair of pig headed flogs.

you know what ... I actually hope they stay on the same path.

because eventually, every player will refuse to come on the show ... the show will be canned ... and we can celebrate
 

broncos4life

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The bottom line viewpoint of the likes of Kent and Hooper (judging by tonight's 360) is pretty much the players should just sit down, shut up and bow down to Dear Leader V'landys and the RLPA are a "toothless tiger" anyway so who gives a shit what they think clearly. Also I love how Hooper immediately tried to shut down discussion about data because he can't wrap his little brain around any of it without his eyes glazing over. **** me they're a pair of pig headed flogs.
The way the shout over Lara is absolutely disgusting, I legitimately find it hard to watch. She is easily the smartest on that panel and each week she makes solid, well thought out points and last night especially Hooper was literally screaming over her to shut her up. I am amazed no-one at Fox has addressed this, not because I think they have integrity but in this day and age it is an awful look.
 

pennywisealfie

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People shouldn't watch that garbage. James Hooper has proven himself constantly that he is a gutter journalist at best. A real piece of trash. Kent is a true fuckwit, we've known that for a long time.

We've been yelling at Phil Gould all these years, but he's just a passionate guy that loves the game, even though some of his ideas are silly. But at least he cares.

Hooper is in it for the sensationalism and a pay cheque.
 

I bleed Maroon

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People shouldn't watch that garbage. James Hooper has proven himself constantly that he is a gutter journalist at best. A real piece of trash. Kent is a true fuckwit, we've known that for a long time.

We've been yelling at Phil Gould all these years, but he's just a passionate guy that loves the game, even though some of his ideas are silly. But at least he cares.

Hooper is in it for the sensationalism and a pay cheque.

Yep. It's all about the next big story in their gossip columns to people like them. The newspapers can't die fast enough in my eyes.
 

Sproj

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Yep. It's all about the next big story in their gossip columns to people like them. The newspapers can't die fast enough in my eyes.

There are some good discussions on that show at times, I just fast forward past segments with Punchable Face. When it is only Kent, at least he can be drowned out by better contributors (which anyone else not named Hooper is). I like the segments with Graham / Benji, Toovs / Billy or whoever. It is just a shame baldy is on with Lara Pitt because she is decent to listen to.
 

Harry Sack

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There are some good discussions on that show at times, I just fast forward past segments with Punchable Face. When it is only Kent, at least he can be drowned out by better contributors (which anyone else not named Hooper is). I like the segments with Graham / Benji, Toovs / Billy or whoever. It is just a shame baldy is on with Lara Pitt because she is decent to listen to.
When i watch it, which is getting rarer and rarer, I pause it once it starts and go have a shower or get dinner or something. Then I can just fast forward whenever I want.
 

lynx000

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There are some good discussions on that show at times, I just fast forward past segments with Punchable Face. When it is only Kent, at least he can be drowned out by better contributors (which anyone else not named Hooper is). I like the segments with Graham / Benji, Toovs / Billy or whoever. It is just a shame baldy is on with Lara Pitt because she is decent to listen to.
It shits me the way Hooper and Kent talk over the top of everyone and anyone, but in particularly Lara. She has more brains and sensible observations than the two of them put together and their treatment of her is appalling.
 

AndyB

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It shits me the way Hooper and Kent talk over the top of everyone and anyone, but in particularly Lara. She has more brains and sensible observations than the two of them put together and their treatment of her is appalling.
💯 mate, I was particularly digusted at the both of them doing it last night.
 
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