They have, but this is where it gets tricky: they're both entrenched in our spine. What does that make them worth now, and if it's so little, why aren't we paying more towards our spine?
I don't see either of them in our starting team by the middle of next year, unless there are injuries. Then it becomes who do you want on your bench: Gamble, Paix, Walters or Martin. For me, the next cab off the rank into our spine after Reynolds, Mam, Mozer and Cobbo would be Martin. But that leaves us without cover at hooker.
Traditionally, 14 replaces the hooker. But it isn't a rule. Bennett benched Benji Marshall at Souths, and Te Maire is a fairly similar player.
It's a tough one, and Te Maire and Tyson must be looking at other clubs you'd have to think.