CROSS FORUM NRL Grand Final Discussion

Damn Penrith are good.
Bunker to be blown up and rebuilt completely. Absolutely inexcusable decision.
 
Broncapz said:
I will always enjoy a good Melbourne Storm defeat.

Remember that Cameron Munster turned down 1.5M at the Dolphins for far less at Melbourne in a clear case of cap cheating.

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These guys are scummier then anything Penrith do.
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How are they getting away with this shit. Fucking unreal. They aren't even hiding it either.
 
theshed said:
Yea Cam is the only player who can honestly hold Cleary out of the number one spot but it’s purely based on longevity at this point. At some stage though, this level of success outweighs longevity - though Cleary may even out do Cam on longevity
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Yep I agree but I do think he's gotta dominate at rep level for multiple years to reach Smith. Some people say he's gotta dominate an Origin series but he's already done that imo, 2021 was total domination. Now he's gotta rack up the wins. At this stage if I'm picking an NRL side from scratch Smith is my first pick and Cleary #2, but it's crazy that he could well take the top spot given Smith was easily the greatest player i'd seen when he retired. Also quite possible Cleary's best is still yet to come which is nuts.
 

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Cavalo said:
Who's going to OPSM?
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Watching the footage rather than a still, you can clearly see the white of the Steeden disappear behind some blades of grass.

Absolute joke of a decision, and I dare anyone to call me an apologist for fucking Melbourne.
 
It was a war of attrition and in the end, Penrith proved they're without a doubt the most dominant force the game has ever seen. Even against the former juggernauts in Bellamy's Melbourne, they were a clear level above despite a gallant effort from the Storm.

For the Panthers, it was largely the same story we've seen before. They're so effective at playing through their set and nobody has yet to figure out how to stop the roll on. The one change was Nathan Cleary who all things considered, was unlucky not to receive a third CC medal considering he made 28 runs, 30 tackles and 18 kicks to go with his 72 touches of the footy. We normally don't see Cleary touch the ball so often and while it didn't result in any line-breaks it just kept things rolling for the Panthers.

Melbourne too were obsessed with Cleary, so much so, they targeted that side relentlessly. It did pay dividends early when Grant went over after Martin couldn't make the second effort but it was a rare blemish. Not only did Cleary make 30 odd tackles, but Tago made 37 just to show how much Melbourne went after Cleary and were hell-bent to make that inside play to Coates work.

Penrith were better across the park, but I'd say the forwards proved the biggest difference. Particularly in the middle, Yeo had a field day with Melbourne whereas the Storm rarely made any inroads and were found wanting. The loss of Asofa-Solomona didn't help but I think it's just a limatation of the side. Loiero has come a long way, but he clearly pales in comparison to Yeo who appears to be modelling his game after.

That's where Utoikamanu could be a major asset. Difficult to imagine that the Storm will gain a player of Stefano's calibre without losing anyone of notoriety. I still see plenty of improvement in them and would not be shocked to see them in the mix.

Meanwhile Penrith say farewell to Luai, Fisher-Harris & Turuva. Ordinarily losing players of that calibre would spell the end of the dynasty but Penrith are so unbelievable that they'll likely saddle for their fifth straight premiership. In Edwards, To'o, Cleary, Leota, Martin, Yeo they have such a strong core and if the likes of Smith and co. keep developing it's difficult picturing the Canterburys, Cronullas etc. improving enough to challenge them.
 
Crazy to think we lost to the Panthers in a GF and our salary cap was in such a state that we lost 5 players. Meanwhile the Storm are actually improving their team after losing the grand final.

The NRL seems so crazy right now.

Penrith are crazy good. There’s never been a team this fit and strong in this league.

Even Penrith are still replacing their losses reasonably well. Papalii and Blaize are different players to Luai and JFH but they’re at least talented. We lost players and signed up replacements that are essentially depth/ Qcup players
 
I did want the Storm to win, but suck shit Xavier Coates. I want to be a Bronco for life. Next minute, he signed with the Storm. (I want to win a GF before Coates, Dearden etc.)
 
Bucking Beads said:
Crazy to think we lost to the Panthers in a GF and our salary cap was in such a state that we lost 5 players. Meanwhile the Storm are actually improving their team after losing the grand final.

The NRL seems so crazy right now.

Penrith are crazy good. There’s never been a team this fit and strong in this league.

Even Penrith are still replacing their losses reasonably well. Papalii and Blaize are different players to Luai and JFH but they’re at least talented. We lost players and signed up replacements that are essentially depth/ Qcup players
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Penrith do everything better than everyone else. Even the replacements they buy in are targeted. So often I find myself thinking ahh must that’s who I wanted us to chase.

But yeah the Storm are a joke. A notes club for salary cap cheating allowed to have approved off the books betting endorsements. Ridiculous.
 
Sproj said:
Penrith do everything better than everyone else. Even the replacements they buy in are targeted. So often I find myself thinking ahh must that’s who I wanted us to chase.

But yeah the Storm are a joke. A notes club for salary cap cheating allowed to have approved off the books betting endorsements. Ridiculous.
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It’s not that difficult really. Yet our club just has this obsession with talent and only talent. You’d think work ethic would have to be a consideration at some point surely.
 
Bucking Beads said:
It’s not that difficult really. Yet our club just has this obsession with talent and only talent. You’d think work ethic would have to be a consideration at some point surely.
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Penrith have just realised better than everyone else that league is a team sport, and its not just about buying a bunch of flashy and expensive players to win games by themselves.

Everyone knows their roles and does it well. Their entire style works, because everyone in their team follows the system. You could replace anyone in their team (even Cleary), and they're competing for the GF every year.
 
Bucking Beads said:
It’s not that difficult really. Yet our club just has this obsession with talent and only talent. You’d think work ethic would have to be a consideration at some point surely.
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It’s pathways as well. Our pathways are shocking. We have also had Redcliffe come in and that has taken one of our pathways we took for granted. Our club needs to invest heavily in this area, we’ve been left behind.
 
Sproj said:
Penrith do everything better than everyone else. Even the replacements they buy in are targeted. So often I find myself thinking ahh must that’s who I wanted us to chase.

But yeah the Storm are a joke. A notes club for salary cap cheating allowed to have approved off the books betting endorsements. Ridiculous.
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No not endorsements or direct payments. They were allowed to buy shares which is why the NRL couldn't stop it.
Wonder how many roosters players have investments in Nick's companies?
 
Dexter said:
Not sure if it's been mentioned but when Paps kicked out from the kick off Sorenson had his foot in the air when he caught the ball. Shoukd have been a scrum to Storm.
Difficult one but still
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Does anyone know the rule if Sorenson dropped the kick off. Is it still deemed to be out on the full?
 
Dexter said:
No not endorsements or direct payments. They were allowed to buy shares which is why the NRL couldn't stop it.
Wonder how many roosters players have investments in Nick's companies?
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There loophole is flipping houses,what's funny is that early on after that tigers player was looking to sign for next year they were looking at having to move players on early Nelson and Welch names were mentioned nekmint not a peep about cap pressure lol
 
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