Player Movements & Rumours 2010

[Bucking Beads]

Not the Story I have heard but yes he did take the big money offer. He also served the Broncos for many years and showed us alot of loyalty in that time especially with a few offers he recieved from the Cowboys

 

[Jeba]

But Civo went to Penrith for more money and showed no loyalty to the Broncos so we should never ever have him back in a Broncos jersey

/sarcasm

Totally different and you know it.!

How is it different? Considering the Broncos made him a generous offer.

 

[Bucking Beads]

But Civo went to Penrith for more money and showed no loyalty to the Broncos so we should never ever have him back in a Broncos jersey

/sarcasm

Totally different and you know it.!

How is it different? Considering the Broncos made him a generous offer.

DO I NEED TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU OR ARE YOU THAT STUPID. Seriously if you love Hannant so much suck him off.

 

[Jeba]

[quote="#1 Kemp fan":18okk4w7]

But Civo went to Penrith for more money and showed no loyalty to the Broncos so we should never ever have him back in a Broncos jersey

/sarcasm

Totally different and you know it.!

How is it different? Considering the Broncos made him a generous offer.

DO I NEED TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU OR ARE YOU THAT STUPID. Seriously if you love Hannant so much suck him off.[/quote:18okk4w7]

Fair enough you made a post the same time as I made mine. OK now you're upset!!!! And getting personal, not cool mate.

Fact is it's two very similar stories. Broncos had an offer for both players, both players got better offers elsewhere. Neither of them could be blamed for going to other clubs.

 

[joshobro]

Wayne Bennett promised Civo a big pay rise when his next contract comes up when the cowboys came in wanting to sign him. He deserved the money he was asking, considering he is the best front rower in rugby league and the loyalty he showed to the broncos by sticking around when the cowboys offered him way more than we did. But the club thought throwing money like 275k to Joel Clinton was a good idea. Big stuff up on our end, I hope we get him back he never should have been let go to penrith!

 

[Bucking Beads]

[quote="#1 Kemp fan":3idex2af]

But Civo went to Penrith for more money and showed no loyalty to the Broncos so we should never ever have him back in a Broncos jersey

/sarcasm

Totally different and you know it.!

How is it different? Considering the Broncos made him a generous offer.

DO I NEED TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU OR ARE YOU THAT STUPID. Seriously if you love Hannant so much suck him off.

Fair enough you made a post the same time as I made mine. OK now you're upset!!!! And getting personal, not cool mate.

Fact is it's two very similar stories. Broncos had an offer for both players, both players got better offers elsewhere. Neither of them could be blamed for going to other clubs.[/quote:3idex2af]

Sorry dude had a bad day..


Main reason for the difference IMO is Petro played for the club for what 10 years and was offered the big bucks many times but stayed. He was also rumoured to have been promised his big pay day by Mr Bennett but this never came. Also at Petros age I can understand him looking for the big pay day right at the end of his career. Hannant on the other hand speaks crap and clearly will only ever be after the money.

 

[Jeba]

Not sure if Wayne used the words "big pay rise". He and the club promised Petero that they'd look after him if he declined offers from the Cowboys, and ended up offering him a $300k per year contract, plus a role in the club after he retires. I reckon that's a good offer, but don't blame him for taking the Panthers offer.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Either way I'd support Hannant if he returned but I question his character and would prefer players who want to play in the jersey not just for the money all the time.

 

[Flutterby]

Seriously if you love Hannant so much suck him off.

It's not about loving Hannant or Civo or not.

Fact is for pretty much all of last year and defintely during the off-season much of what i read on here was how the Bronocos really need a good prop and were stupid for letting all of them go (mainly because we couldn't afford to match the offers they got elsewhere).

Now one of the best props going around in Ben Hannant wants to come back to Queensland and we currently do have the money to be able to afford him - but people around here get all high and mighty saying we shouldn't ever have him back because he was "disloyal" by wanting to try and provide better for his family and accepting more money elsewhere. Most of these same people cream themselves over Justin Hodges - even though he lied through his teeth right up until almost the very second he signed with the Roosters - and welcomed him back with open arms. Additionally people are now wanting to get Civo back - despite the fact that he also accepted an offer of more money to play elsewhere and that whilst he has been one of the best props we have even seen, he is at the end of the career.

I love Civo, I am a fan of Hannant - I would have either or both of them back.

It is the hypocracy of some people on here that frustrates and annoys me when it comes to situations like this.

Maybe it is because I work in the sport industy, but whilst I do often get disappointed when certain players leave my club or are let go, I understand that every decision made by both clubs and players are business decisions first and foremost.

 

[GCBRONCO]

Seriously if you love Hannant so much suck him off.

It's not about loving Hannant or Civo or not.

Fact is for pretty much all of last year and defintely during the off-season much of what i read on here was how the Bronocos really need a good prop and were stupid for letting all of them go (mainly because we couldn't afford to match the offers they got elsewhere).

Now one of the best props going around in Ben Hannant wants to come back to Queensland and we currently do have the money to be able to afford him - but people around here get all high and mighty saying we shouldn't ever have him back because he was "disloyal" by wanting to try and provide better for his family and accepting more money elsewhere. Most of these same people cream themselves over Justin Hodges - even though he lied through his teeth right up until almost the very second he signed with the Roosters - and welcomed him back with open arms. Additionally people are now wanting to get Civo back - despite the fact that he also accepted an offer of more money to play elsewhere and that whilst he has been one of the best props we have even seen, he is at the end of the career.

I love Civo, I am a fan of Hannant - I would have either or both of them back.

It is the hypocracy of some people on here that frustrates and annoys me when it comes to situations like this.

Maybe it is because I work in the sport industy, but whilst I do often get disappointed when certain players leave my club or are let go, I understand that every decision made by both clubs and players are business decisions first and foremost.

Let me clear one thing up for you Flutterby I don't have a problem with Hannant seeking a better deal for himself and his family, his entitled to, what probably irks me is his attitude towards expecting the club he signed with to get a better deal to turn around midway through the contract and release him so he can get a better deal. IMO Hannant got the better deal he was seeking(and sometimes that comes at costs that you have to accept, it comes with the job) and he should see it out, I don't see how thats unreasonable personally.

 

[Foordy]

IIRC, the Broncos took the deal they offered Civo off the table before he sort out the Panthers one since he no longer had an offer from the Broncos

 

[Charmamba]

Seriously if you love Hannant so much suck him off.

It's not about loving Hannant or Civo or not.

Fact is for pretty much all of last year and defintely during the off-season much of what i read on here was how the Bronocos really need a good prop and were stupid for letting all of them go (mainly because we couldn't afford to match the offers they got elsewhere).

Now one of the best props going around in Ben Hannant wants to come back to Queensland and we currently do have the money to be able to afford him - but people around here get all high and mighty saying we shouldn't ever have him back because he was "disloyal" by wanting to try and provide better for his family and accepting more money elsewhere. Most of these same people cream themselves over Justin Hodges - even though he lied through his teeth right up until almost the very second he signed with the Roosters - and welcomed him back with open arms. Additionally people are now wanting to get Civo back - despite the fact that he also accepted an offer of more money to play elsewhere and that whilst he has been one of the best props we have even seen, he is at the end of the career.

I love Civo, I am a fan of Hannant - I would have either or both of them back.

It is the hypocracy of some people on here that frustrates and annoys me when it comes to situations like this.

Maybe it is because I work in the sport industy, but whilst I do often get disappointed when certain players leave my club or are let go, I understand that every decision made by both clubs and players are business decisions first and foremost.

I can forgive a player once. Count it as a mistake or wanting to learn something new. Twice however is a different story.

That said if Hannant isn't chasing a stupid amount i may come around to having him back.

 

[Jeba]

IIRC, the Broncos took the deal they offered Civo off the table before he sort out the Panthers one since he no longer had an offer from the Broncos

Actually I think you are right. Still, IMO it was a good offer for someone at that stage of his career. Petero obviously didn't think so.

 

[Foordy]

IIRC, the Broncos took the deal they offered Civo off the table before he sort out the Panthers one since he no longer had an offer from the Broncos

Actually I think you are right. Still, IMO it was a good offer for someone at that stage of his career. Petero obviously didn't think so.

I do agree that it was a good offer for Petero, i was just pointing out that he didn't have both the Panthers and Broncos offers on the table at the same time, and then took the Panthers offer because it was higher. He took the Panthers deal because he wanted to continue on in the NRL and it was clear that he couldn't do that at the Broncos.

 

[Dexter]

Civo had a great offer from the Broncs, problem was it was partly made up with third party deals which didn't affect the cap and therefore retention of younger players. Civo and his management wanted the money up front which is what the Panthers gave him plus a little more.

 

[rod78]

Civo had a great offer from the Broncs, problem was it was partly made up with third party deals which didn't affect the cap and therefore retention of younger players. Civo and his management wanted the money up front which is what the Panthers gave him plus a little more.

Yeah but when you have been told to hold off and your time will come when webbie gone. You do the right thing by the club and do that. Then the time come and the money offered contains a little bit of this and a little bit of that, you too would think where is your loyalty back.

 

[Dexter]

I don't really have an opinion on who is right or wrong, when it comes to this type of thing only the people involved know the full story and obviously Civo thought he had taken less for years but that loyalty was not reciprocated.

The clubs are always under pressure to balance the up and coming talent against being loyal to developed talent, while the players who take unders eventually have to make a call for themselves and their families.

Its just the way it is these days.

 

[Coxy]

Well said Dexter.

I don't have much problem with either Civo or Hannant's decisions to leave Brisbane, nor do I have too much trouble with either returning if they come to terms with the club.

My issue is not with Hannant wanting or thinking he deserves more money. Even his cringe-worthy proclamation that "I'm one of the marquee players clubs build their teams around" I can swallow as a bargaining chip. But his general "we are so worse off now because of the salary cap it's not fair" is so childish, so ignorant, and so out of touch with reality. He'd have no idea what the relative cost of running an NRL club is compared to super league days, etc etc etc. It's just a straight out whinge.