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jarro65

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Isaako has shown absolutely no play-making ability at all and for now, that is ok. What he has shown is an ability to make pressure tackles, pop up in the right place at the right time and run the ball back with some intent. These things are very much needed by this side. In a year or so, if he still hasn't shown any play-making ability, then be concerned but for now, he is already offering more facets than Boyd was.

Maybe WB has told Isaako to play conservative at the back for now, find your feet so to speak.

We certainly look better with Boyd in the centres.
 
Wolfie

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Hope he just brings in Pearson and leaves Boyd and Isaako where they are.
Because I'd say the other option will be Opacic coming into the centre being that Staggs can't start.

I dont think they will pick Tom and i actually hope they dont. If we are just going to bring in a player to sacrifice half way through the game for Staggs i'd rather it not be Tom or Shibasaki. For a start i think its a waste of an interchange and i dont think it does their confidence any good.

I do actually think they will give Shibasaki a run though if they do it. From what i heard they wanted Tom to get a good run of games under his belt for Redcliffe. Dont think he is actually in any better form than Tom, but i think he is good enough. Actually think he is a better center than Kotoni.
 
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Firstly, I am not bagging Isaako - I think he’s been very solid most weeks, a little poor a couple and outstanding others.

I’ve also been very critical of Boyd at times this year. But he’s been very good at centre.

However...

Isaako needs time to develop his playmaking, we can all see that. He deserves it, requires it and should get it. But, I believe we looked far more dangerous in the Bulldogs half when Boyd moved back to fullback. We started creating overlaps that just weren’t there with Isaako at the back.

So, what’s the answer?

For 2018 to be any sort of success, I think a balance is needed. Isaako can play most of the game at the back (strong kick returns, good defence etc.) which will allow him to keep learning, but perhaps we just switch Boyd in when the opportunity presents itself.

Upload 2018 8 4 9 54 15
 
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Aldo

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I'd love to see Isaako push up around the ruck more and look to support like Tedesco does.
 
Sproj

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Firstly, I am not bagging Isaako - I think he’s been very solid most weeks, a little poor a couple and outstanding others.

I’ve also been very critical of Boyd at times this year. But he’s been very good at centre.

However...

Isaako needs time to develop his playmaking, we can all see that. He deserves it, requires it and should get it. But, I believe we looked far more dangerous in the Bulldogs half when Boyd moved back to fullback. We started creating overlaps that just weren’t there with Isaako at the back.

So, what’s the answer?

For 2018 to be any sort of success, I think a balance is needed. Isaako can play most of the game at the back which will allow him to keep learning, but perhaps we just switch Boyd in when the opportunity presents itself. So:

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Or...

1. Isaako
2. Oates
1. Roberts
1. Boyd
4. Shibasaki
1. Milford
1. KNik
8. Lodge
18. Macca
10. Thaiday
19. Glenn
13. TPJ
13. Joffa

4. Staggs
15. Sims
10. McGuire
20. Fifita

Problems solved.
 
winslow_wong

winslow_wong

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Article on Twitter has Bennett contemplating moving Boyd back to fullback and droping Kahu [emoji53]

I know injuries are forcing bennetts hand with some selections but all this reactive coaching and changes mid game is so bizarre. So what happens with the left centre debacle if Boyd goes back to fullback? Isaako has defensive issues at wing too. Kahu is still our best wing option I feel and shouldn't be dropped unless injured.
 
winslow_wong

winslow_wong

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I'd love to see Isaako push up around the ruck more and look to support like Tedesco does.

If running is isaakos thing then some inside ball plays to him should be utilised like the old days with khunt
 
Super Freak

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If running is isaakos thing then some inside ball plays to him should be utilised like the old days with khunt

We don't get quick enough service from dummy half for that to be of any use.

Those plays are much more effective when you're getting quick PTB's and getting quick service out of dummy half.
 
Battler

Battler

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Article on Twitter has Bennett contemplating moving Boyd back to fullback and droping Kahu [emoji53]

Smart move. Kahu has been shocking recently (he's titans ready imo, they love their ex-Broncos), and Boyd made our backline look better when he moved there at the end of the game against the Dogs.

Isaako's time will come at FB.
 
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Foordy

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Smart move. Kahu has been shocking recently (he's titans ready imo, they love their ex-Broncos), and Boyd made our backline look better when he moved there at the end of the game against the Dogs.

Isaako's time will come at FB.

that article is basically Bennett saying that the move during the game was to make something happen ... and he doesn't know what he will do next week yet
 
Donald Garner

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Funny thing is I think we can still make the top 4 if we win all our games.
 
Accept

Accept

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that article is basically Bennett saying that the move during the game was to make something happen ... and he doesn't know what he will do next week yet
It's nothing but a speculative article with no actual quotes stating that Kahu may be dropped. It's just a journo making a guess based on a move WB made during the game. It's enough to fool many of the posters on here though.
 
theshed

theshed

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So Thaiday was in the media recently talking about how he’s been a cowboys fan his whole life and will support them when he retires.

Obviously I know players will have an emotional connection to clubs from their youth and their family, and he is from that area but it’s not what you want to hear a few games out from the finals in the last season of a 300 game one club man.

Look forward to Sam becoming Tallis2.0 in his retirement.
 
Foordy

Foordy

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So Thaiday was in the media recently talking about how he’s been a cowboys fan his whole life and will support them when he retires.

Obviously I know players will have an emotional connection to clubs from their youth and their family, and he is from that area but it’s not what you want to hear a few games out from the finals in the last season of a 300 game one club man.

Look forward to Sam becoming Tallis2.0 in his retirement.

you also conveniently left out how he loves the club and is grateful for all we have done for his career ...
 
broncos4life

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So Thaiday was in the media recently talking about how he’s been a cowboys fan his whole life and will support them when he retires.

Obviously I know players will have an emotional connection to clubs from their youth and their family, and he is from that area but it’s not what you want to hear a few games out from the finals in the last season of a 300 game one club man.

Look forward to Sam becoming Tallis2.0 in his retirement.

Yep.

I know I will be told I am over-reacting but who cares. I am done with Sam now. I read that article this morning and I thought this must be a click-bait title but no. What a flog. If it were up to me he would have played his last game for us. I am sick to fucking death of this club meaning more to the fans than the gronks that make their careers out of it.

Go **** yourself, Sam.
 
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Battler

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Yep.

I know I will be told I am over-reacting but who cares. I am done with Sam now. I read that article this morning and I thought this must be a click-bait title but no. What a flog. If it were up to me he would have played his last game for us. I am sick to fucking death of this club meaning more to the fans than the gronks that make their careers out of it.

Go **** yourself, Sam.

Agreed, meanwhile Parker is diehard and even Ennis, who was only here for a few years, is sometimes favourable to us, especially compared to ex-Broncos greats like Tallis...
 
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theshed

theshed

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you also conveniently left out how he loves the club and is grateful for all we have done for his career ...

Yeah but it’s like your misses telling you that she loves you heaps and is happily married but always wanted to bang that other dude from your year in high school.

Like yeah, it’s reasonable but it isn’t pleasant to hear it.
 

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