POST GAME [Round 3, 2022] Broncos vs Cowboys

[Culhwch]

I'd be telling Staggs and Cobbo to not worry about the big plays and go back to the basics - running hard, tacking hard, and chasing kicks hard. The resulting possession and fatigue in the opposition will allow the points to come later.

Totally agree on this - they are both trying to force the big play when it's not on and making poor decisions with the ball in hand. The difference it would make to end some of the sets currently ending in errors by just holding on to the ball and applying sustained pressure I think would be huge. Instead they push a pass that's not on or get forced out, and it's an easy turnover.

 

[pagey]

How is it that they didn't have the right attitude. Playing in great looking heritage jerseys, at home Lang Park, 3:00 pm on a Sunday arvo, against the Cowboys, with two out of two wins in the bank.

pressure

 

[JoeyK]

Sorry if this has already been said but the press conference at the end was a complete joke.
Ben Ikin needs to sit those two down and have a good talk with them.

If that is how our leadership look at the game, then there is no chance we will make the finals this year.

 

[nopatience101]

Reynolds was trying too hard to pull off the big play in front of the home crow &, that’s not why we bought him. Hope it’s out of his system now.

 

[Johnny92]

Reynolds was trying too hard to pull off the big play in front of the home crow &, that’s not why we bought him. Hope it’s out of his system now.

I'm honestly not mad about Reynolds performance he was trying everything to get us/keep us in the game and alot of it didn't come off but he shouldn't have been in that position in the first place to try and pull off the big plays constantly the other blokes except a few let him down big time.
The slow service he was receiving from Turpin is going to stop pretty quick.. if your captain, halfback and marquee man isn't happy with it that players gone or he's getting a rocket put up him.

 

[Bull Shark]

How is it that they didn't have the right attitude. Playing in great looking heritage jerseys, at home Lang Park, 3:00 pm on a Sunday arvo, against the Cowboys, with two out of two wins in the bank.

You could easily flip that on its head and ask how often, over the last several seasons, have the broncos gone into a game as strong favourites off a couple of good wins, and turned up with a great attitude and performance ?
Even when we were a functional NRL team under Wayne Bennett, the Broncos have developed a habit of only producing big performances off the back of an ass kicking the week before. I don't know how or why, but over the last few years our players just seem to drink their own kool aid far too easily and quickly.

 

[Mr Fourex]

How is it that they didn't have the right attitude. Playing in great looking heritage jerseys, at home Lang Park, 3:00 pm on a Sunday arvo, against the Cowboys, with two out of two wins in the bank.

Considering how fucked we have been for the last 2 years.....how is it we don't have the right attitude every fucken game??

3 out of the 4 spine players are fill in's for any other club at best. They don't have the ability to put in good efforts, game after game after game....you'll get 2-3 good games out of them per season. It aint good enough......the side still has a long way to go to build itself into a quality first grade team.

 

[WASSHHH]

I'm honestly not mad about Reynolds performance he was trying everything to get us/keep us in the game and alot of it didn't come off but he shouldn't have been in that position in the first place to try and pull off the big plays constantly the other blokes except a few let him down big time.
The slow service he was receiving from Turpin is going to stop pretty quick.. if your captain, halfback and marquee man isn't happy with it that players gone or he's getting a rocket put up him.

I truly hope you’re right about the bold bit.

Turpin’s defence is great, and I don’t doubt he tries his very best every week. The problem is, when it comes to attack, his best is quite simply terrible.

I’ve seen the word clunky thrown around a bit and I think it’s very accurate. I’d also throw in stunted, uninspired and mindless.

He really looks like he’s got no idea and I just can’t imagine Reynolds isn’t there telling everyone exactly where he wants them and what he wants them doing.

A 9 with crisp service and a sharp running game would do this team wonders.

 

[Sproj]

I actually think there is an important context that isn't being mentioned with Kevvie's post-game conference. First though let me say, I am not a fan at all of his bench usage and clearly, he has deficiencies that he needs to work on BUT he clarified his kick tries comment by saying that they were hard to defend because (paraphrasing here), our blockers didn't do anything and this isn't wrong. The problem is though both Cobbo and Niu are afraid of trying to catch the thing at present. I am sure Kevvie would be aware of this, at least I hope so (or one of our famed assistants at least) and are trying to work with Cobbo and Niu to be less passive in defense and not be afraid of at least contesting the ball. I think Kevvie was trying to defend his team instead of sinking the boot into them and I hope behind close doors he tears certain players to shreds.

 

[nopatience101]

Turpins slow delivery & lack of variety around the ruck is why it always looks like the other team is offside, there were times yesterday where Reynolds was getting it first receiver and by the time he got the ball he already had the defence in his face.

 

[nopatience101]

I actually think there is an important context that isn't being mentioned with Kevvie's post-game conference. First though let me say, I am not a fan at all of his bench usage and clearly, he has deficiencies that he needs to work on BUT he clarified his kick tries comment by saying that they were hard to defend because (paraphrasing here), our blockers didn't do anything and this isn't wrong. The problem is though both Cobbo and Niu are afraid of trying to catch the thing at present. I am sure Kevvie would be aware of this, at least I hope so (or one of our famed assistants at least) and are trying to work with Cobbo and Niu to be less passive in defense and not be afraid of at least contesting the ball. I think Kevvie was trying to defend his team instead of sinking the boot into them and I hope behind close doors he tears certain players to shreds.

Some kick pressure wouldn’t hurt either…

 

[Cult]

I'll keep saying it and I am sure everyone agrees but I don't care if we lose as long as there's effort shown. The complete lack of urgency from these players this week was disgusting. I'd be dropping Staggs, Niu, Cobbo, Turpin, Kelly and James this week. They don't deserve to keep their spots in the team with the efforts they put in this week.

When we don't bother to show up and the reffing is as horrendous as it was we don't have a chance. The Cowboys laid all over us after we made line breaks with no consequences and the ref marched them up the field all game. The whole thing just sucked.

 

[Cult]

Same. I'd love someone to explain why we went all in on niu instead of isaako. Blows my fucking mind. Tesi makes him look good.

They're both shit but Niu hasn't been half as dumb as Isaako showed weekly.

 

[Sproj]

I'll keep saying it and I am sure everyone agrees but I don't care if we lose as long as there's effort shown. The complete lack of urgency from these players this week was disgusting. I'd be dropping Staggs, Niu, Cobbo, Turpin, Kelly and James this week. They don't deserve to keep their spots in the team with the efforts they put in this week.

When we don't bother to show up and the reffing is as horrendous as it was we don't have a chance. The Cowboys laid all over us after we made line breaks with no consequences and the ref marched them up the field all game. The whole thing just sucked.

The refereeing in general was awful, put the whistle away for goodness sake if you aren't going to be consistent but we got our fair share of calls too.

 

[BroncsFan]

You could easily flip that on its head and ask how often, over the last several seasons, have the broncos gone into a game as strong favourites off a couple of good wins, and turned up with a great attitude and performance ?
Even when we were a functional NRL team under Wayne Bennett, the Broncos have developed a habit of only producing big performances off the back of an ass kicking the week before. I don't know how or why, but over the last few years our players just seem to drink their own kool aid far too easily and quickly.

It's because they havent been coached properly for years... they dont have a system to fall back on that will get them through games.

Every storm player knows their role which makes it easier for them to focus on game day... middle forward is basically just "win the ruck with and without the ball" and Bellamy tells them the fundamentals they need to do to achieve that goal... find your front, quick ptb's, get the opposition on their back, etc.

Haas' would be like win the ruck, dont miss tackles, look for an offload, little bit of ball playing with your forwards, etc.... it's basically just go out there and be you. But the issue is that he's never been taught or developed to be better. He's probably still playing the same way he did as an 18yr old... he's not been developed to go out there and physically dominate his opponent, like an AFB, JFH, etc.

We need to get the little simple things set in stone so it becomes muscle memory and then expand from there.

The Broncos as an organisation have never embraced wrestling and winning the ruck since its inception as the meta back in 2006.

We're only just now trying to teach our edges how to come up and in on the halves /fullback, even though every other team has been doing it for years.

We've relied too long on individual talents and playing off emotion for too long.

It's exhausting for a player to be emotionally up and restarting every game if they dont have a set plan to follow each game... it's like starting from scratch every week.

I'm not putting that all on Kevvie by the way... that's been an issue with our coaching philosophies seemingly since our inception.

 

[Cult]

The refereeing in general was awful, put the whistle away for goodness sake if you aren't going to be consistent but we got our fair share of calls too.

I've always said when it comes to the Broncos it isn't the penalties called against us but the penalties that aren't blown for us. We get bent over and there's no stat to prove it. Teams can do whatever they want to us with no consequences. Reynolds being hit late in that Bulldogs game and us being the only team penalised for it was proof enough for me that there is an agenda against us.

 

[NSW stables]

League these days is a very simple game. The team with the best line speed, has harder first contact in defence, runs hard onto the ball with good shape, completes high and wins field position will win 9 times out of 10.

You could see in the first 10 minutes we would lose that game. We had no line speed (as per previous years), incurred way too many PCMs due to soft defence. Really disappointing particularly given it was a home game against a rival.

People overlooked how well riki played in the first 2 rounds. He really pushed the line speed on the edges to disrupt the halves and protected our halves from being targeted. Losing riki early really hurt us.

 

[Gaz]

Full time was a relief.

Yes, particularly when you are out there. It’s always a long way home when you lose let alone losing like that. @abashii you didn’t miss anything mate.