Badel Warning Seibold: leave Darius alone

john1420

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On the face of it, it's just a coach relieving pressure on a player that's under the pump. Nothing wrong with that. I guess because we all want Seibold to come out and say he's been shit (which we all know), when he comes out with this stuff it's like a moving flag to a bull (even though we all know you can't publicly hang players out).
Yep, definitely agree with you here :)
 

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If we are using the media to put pressure on Boyd in the way you are suggesting as your latter option, i hope Seibs and Locky get right out of this club. I dont care how much of a legend Locky is, you dont treat a good servant in that way and despite his poor form Boyd doesnt deserve underhanded tactics to get him out. The coach should make the call. Tell him face to face he isnt performing and he is dropped. Be honest with him.

In saying that, i'd be amazed if we would resort to using the media to do that to Boyd. I think we are a much classier club than that.
What is wrong with it? If they have had conversations behind closed doors, and the result is someone digs their heels in.....

I'm also not sure what Boyd has actually brought to the club as captain on the field (i am sure its nothing) - if he was being a good servant he would drop it or drop himself to get his shit together. People arent given spots in football teams for being good people around the game.

Just sayin....Either we are blind or Boyd is blind. You tell me where the truth lies re his performances over the last two season.
 
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Wolfie

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What is wrong with it? If they have had conversations behind closed doors, and the result is someone digs their heels in.....

I'm also not sure what Boyd has actually brought to the club as captain on the field (i am sure its nothing) - if he was being a good servant he would drop it or drop himself to get his shit together. People arent given spots in football teams for being good people around the game.

Just sayin....Either we are blind or Boyd is blind. You tell me where the truth lies re his performances over the last two season.
You can't seriously think trying to undermine him and pressure him through the media would be acceptable. That would be a dirty, underhanded thing to do and very distasteful. I firmly believe you deal with things in an up front manner so everyone know's where they stand. No need to conduct yourself any other way.

If there have been conversations behind closed doors about Boyd behind closed doors and he is digging his heels in as you say, then the coach drops him. If he doesn't, that's 100% on Seibs. I doubt Boyd has the power to keep himself in the team if the coach thinks otherwise.


As I have said before, I know Seibs sets markers for every player and that determines where they sit on his depth chart. If Boyd wasn't meeting them, he would get dropped. That's probably why he doesn't think he is as out of form as he is, because the coach and others I'd guess are telling him otherwise.
 

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If we are using the media to put pressure on Boyd in the way you are suggesting as your latter option, i hope Seibs and Locky get right out of this club. I dont care how much of a legend Locky is, you dont treat a good servant in that way and despite his poor form Boyd doesnt deserve underhanded tactics to get him out. The coach should make the call. Tell him face to face he isnt performing and he is dropped. Be honest with him.

In saying that, i'd be amazed if we would resort to using the media to do that to Boyd. I think we are a much classier club than that.
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Bringing Keary into it was stupid. All thats going to do is fire up Keary and the Roosters. Having a shot at the media is all he should have done.
In what world has Boyd been a good servant? The only person at the club who has ever liked him is Bennett, and even he doesn't want to be near him anymore. I think the bigger issue is that Boyd, unlike other players, doesn't use any social media or read any news... This is probably why he is so oblivious to how bad he is. Other players have a bad game, read about it and come fired up the next week. He is so uninformed about anything going on in the world, I don't think he knows what is expected of a starting 6...
 

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In what world has Boyd been a good servant? The only person at the club who has ever liked him is Bennett, and even he doesn't want to be near him anymore. I think the bigger issue is that Boyd, unlike other players, doesn't use any social media or read any news... This is probably why he is so oblivious to how bad he is. Other players have a bad game, read about it and come fired up the next week. He is so uninformed about anything going on in the world, I don't think he knows what is expected of a starting 6...
Or they read about it and have a mental break down like Ash Taylor - or Boyd 5 years ago.
 

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You can't seriously think trying to undermine him and pressure him through the media would be acceptable. That would be a dirty, underhanded thing to do and very distasteful. I firmly believe you deal with things in an up front manner so everyone know's where they stand. No need to conduct yourself any other way.

If there have been conversations behind closed doors about Boyd behind closed doors and he is digging his heels in as you say, then the coach drops him. If he doesn't, that's 100% on Seibs. I doubt Boyd has the power to keep himself in the team if the coach thinks otherwise.


As I have said before, I know Seibs sets markers for every player and that determines where they sit on his depth chart. If Boyd wasn't meeting them, he would get dropped. That's probably why he doesn't think he is as out of form as he is, because the coach and others I'd guess are telling him otherwise.
We aren't privy to know. The game is also a business, and if someone has two years in their favour, and refuses to budge - you play the cards you need to. The WB debacle was far dirtier than this - most of which came from WB.

If Seibs dropped Boyd to Q cup prior to the last few round of playing at 6, it would have looked terrible. Now hes given him an over and above chance and its just not working. You dont keep a player at 6 to babysit him on the roster unless you are forced to.
 
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broncsgoat

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We aren't privy to know. The game is also a business, and if someone has two years in their favour, and refuses to budge - you play the cards you need to. The WB debacle was far dirtier than this - most of which cam from WB.

If Seibs dropped Boyd to Q cup prior to the last few round of playing at 6, it would have looked terrible. Now hes given him an over and above chance and its just not working. You dont keep a player at 6 to babysit him on the roster unless you are forced to.
If seibold is letting his team be dictated by other people, hes more of a joke than we thought
 

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We aren't privy to know. The game is also a business, and if someone has two years in their favour, and refuses to budge - you play the cards you need to. The WB debacle was far dirtier than this - most of which cam from WB.

If Seibs dropped Boyd to Q cup prior to the last few round of playing at 6, it would have looked terrible. Now hes given him an over and above chance and its just not working. You dont keep a player at 6 to babysit him on the roster unless you are forced to.
I don't agree at all you have to be underhanded about it. Just tell the bloke. It's not his fault he has another year plus an option in his favour. You can't go around shitting on players under contract or nobody will want to play for you. The majority of players respect honesty even if it costs them sometimes.

And ultimatley , it's up to Seibold to do what he thinks is best for the Broncos as a team, not what's best for Boyd. He just has to treat Boyd with respect when he does it.

And the Wayne Bennett issue was as much down to Brisbane as it was down to Bennett. After all, he had a contract, but Bennett did carry on like a pork chop at times during the whole saga. Nobody came out of it looking good.
 

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I don't agree at all you have to be underhanded about it. Just tell the bloke. It's not his fault he has another year plus an option in his favour. You can't go around shitting on players under contract or nobody will want to play for you. The majority of players respect honesty even if it costs them sometimes.
Assuming he has been told, and refuses to move? Start an internal civil war - hell no. You let others do it for you.

Lets see how he turns up tonight!
 

Wolfie

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Assuming he has been told, and refuses to move? Start an internal civil war - hell no. You let others do it for you.

Lets see how he turns up tonight!
There would be more of a civil war if they shit on him. It will become obvious if it's done via the media who is pulling the strings. He is very popular with the other guys, and it will impact the playing group a lot.

I don't get why you think anyone with a legally binding contract has to agree to move anywhere. Why should he give up his money? I certainly wouldn't and I think anyone on here who says they would sacrifice a lucrative contract would be a liar. Still doesn't mean we can't drop him though.
 

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On the face of it, it's just a coach relieving pressure on a player that's under the pump. Nothing wrong with that. I guess because we all want Seibold to come out and say he's been shit (which we all know), when he comes out with this stuff it's like a moving flag to a bull (even though we all know you can't publicly hang players out).
He didn't relieve any pressure on Boyd: he reminded everyone how shit his stats were last weekend.
 

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I don't get why you think anyone with a legally binding contract has to agree to move anywhere. Why should he give up his money? I certainly wouldn't and I think anyone on here who says they would sacrifice a lucrative contract would be a liar. Still doesn't mean we can't drop him though.
There in lies the issue. Hes not playing up to spec, appears cooked and is taking up 700k.

We will go in circles about this all day i think.
 

Tom

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I don't get why you think anyone with a legally binding contract has to agree to move anywhere. Why should he give up his money? I certainly wouldn't and I think anyone on here who says they would sacrifice a lucrative contract would be a liar.
Absolute crap mate. He can either see what everyone else sees and do the right thing by the club and fans he supposedly respects or he can continue to shit all over them......

I can already see what you just said being his next argument though.
 

Wolfie

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There in lies the issue. Hes not playing up to spec, appears cooked and is taking up 700k.

We will go in circles about this all day i think.
Nothing to go in circles about. I think it's really simple. If he performs, pick him, if he doesn't, drop him.

His contract has no relevance on his performance. If he doesn't perform, the coach should be strong enough to drop him. We can't change that he has a lucrative contract now, so we just have to live with it.
 

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So that bulldust about the board tying the coaches hand in regards to certain
team selections was all a big lie.

Seibold's assistant coach is Darius Boyd, thats the truth from all this nonesense.
He's probably keeping Darius around to pick his thoughts on what 'Wayne' would have done. If that's the case, we just hired the biggest fraud for the next 5 years.
This wins the internet for the moronic post of the year. Well done, big effort that one.
 

Wolfie

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Absolute crap mate. He can either see what everyone else sees and do the right thing by the club and fans he supposedly respects or he can continue to shit all over them......

I can already see what you just said being his next argument though.
It's not crap, would you sacrifice 700k a year that you could help out your family with? I really don't believe anyone would and I wouldn't blame them. Family comes first. For your argument to stand up he would have to be deliberately playing sub standard and I don't think he is, he just isn't as good as he used to be. As fans, I think we can get a bit too emotional about it and take it more personally than it actually should be.

All the Broncos can do is drop him if his form isn't what the coach is looking for and take it from there really.
 

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